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debears United States. September 22 2012 09:10. Posts 35 PM Profile Quote Edit #
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@Atreides

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It's not that I don't acknowledge that stutters has been lurking. It's just that its useless to spread my focus on you, Remedy, Rethos, KillingTime, and Stutters.

And it's funny you bold a little part of my sentence and ignore the stuff written in the rest of it.
I never told anyone they can't vote for me (like anyone would listen), I only want you to TALK about something different.

Even if I was scum, there'd be two more.
And when I flip green, you see that you're gonna have to find three more.
So I suggest(ed) looking into that. But it seems you are not interested. Why not?

Oh wow, way to not read my filter!! Good job!
I was already asked (kinda) about this and answered it. It's true, I'm even linking it, otherwise you might not find it in my massive one-page filter! Here! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=367548&currentpage=38#749
I am putting pressure on him in a way, yes.
Because he's being SUPER useless while being "confirmed" town. And that makes me mad. Cause if he keeps that up when Sharrant gets shot (and Sharrant WILL get shot soon, since he's the only mason that actually does ANYTHING), it ain't gonna be pretty.

Oh, I know a case exists. But I want you to meditate, find your inner center, and tell me how I should treat the case instead.

And stop being hypocritical about me not reading or whatever - I read the thread, I read all the filters. But you yourself seem to have conveniently skipped over some of my posts (in one case even over the sentence you were quoting from), just to rehash some concerns that have already been answered.

You even mention the mason thing, which was a stupid misunderstanding that thrawn STILL pointed out AFTER I ALREADY explained it without anyone even asking. Okay, okay, maybe a mistake by him (though scum thrawn is looking more likely by the minute), but WHY do you feel the need to bring that up again?
This sentence alone makes me think you're just trying to appear like you're "scumhunting", when you actually don't*. So you call my post "weird" to discredit me.

*This is not just about this one sentence, your whole "case" is rehashed garbage you could've answered yourself if you actually read through the thread/my filter to really scumhunt, instead of picking a few posts out of context, ingoring the explainations I already gave, etc.

Your only original contribution is the assosiation "case" with Xathalos. And that is so fucking horrible it gives me the worst nightmares (good thing I just woke up)

But at least I can give you the good news! Remedy is no longer my top scumread! It's you! You win! Yaaaaay!

##vote debears


Disclaimer: I'd still be up for lynching remedy/stutters/insert-lurker-here too.

On September 23 2012 00:52 Dandel Ion wrote:
Eh, if that's going to be the wagon, so be it.

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##vote stutters

On September 23 2012 01:48 kushm4sta wrote:
@thrawn please change your vote. Your argument for stutters was really good, yet you dont vote for him?

On September 23 2012 01:21 thrawn2112 wrote:


Who would you rather the wagon be? I see you come into the thread with a scumread that other people thought was scummy at the time, (most especially myself) debears attacks you and you immediately go after him even to the point of voting for him. Then two people go for stutters and it's time to change your vote to stutters? Is debears still your top read? Don't you even want to try to see if you can push your case?

On September 23 2012 01:21 debears wrote:
@Dandel

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Alright. Thanks for the clarification. It seems to me that, in that post that you are claiming the start of his "I don't give a shit" parade, he did still care. He made a lot of short posts before that, and then comes in with a longer post when we suddenly say that we should focus on lurkers.

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You come into a game past the d1 lynch, have to catch up on a lot of posts, then have a good enough read of the situation to call out who we should vig shot? It's not an association case. It's a read that I have incorporated into my play based on my observations from last game. In fact, most of my reads are based off of other games, guides, and such. Wouldn't that be logical instead of saying, oh it happened last game, it won't happen again. I bring up Xatalos to remind the other guys who did play last game of it.

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Lol. Blatant lie. I have NEVER said remedy is town. I have put little focus on him, seeing as thrawn and others are looking into him. Instead, I have seen you and Atreides saying stuff that calls immediate attention.

I made the same argument against killing.

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Same reasoning as I made against you.

So why are you putting words in my mouth?

Here's a quote on earlier.



I picked the two most scummy looking: you and Atreides. And now I am examining you in closer detail. Just beca.use you don't say someone is scum doesn't mean you don't have a scum read on them.



Yet, again. I have talked about others. I've talked about KillingTime, although he is off my radar atm, and Atreides besides you. Yet you say I am not looking into possible scum and I'm not talking about something different. Another lie. See a trend in this?



Your point about Sharrant being shot and him being useless is valid if him and sharrant aren't talking, which is a big assumption. Maybe sharky hasn't posted much so that he can focus on reading the thread a few times to get an accurate read of the situation, so he doesn't end up making piss poor reads and lie. I understand you wanting to be active.



I brought it up because you brought sharky's lurking up when, 1. He's a mason and can talk privately with sharrant
2. You're only case is against remedy, who is trying to make a case against you, and me, when I am making a case against you.

Oh, and about your remedy case



"rehashed garbage". Hmmm when you're main arguments against me and him are that we don't "scumhunt". I believe Thrawn already addressed that part of the remedy case. And maybe if you read more into my argument, you could have seen my stuff added in with the "rehashed garbage"



Even if that was the truth about this last post, I now have an even better contribution with this post.



Way to OMGUS worse than kush.

Oh and when did you make a case against stutters? I thought you knew how to scumhunt, since you're telling other people how to

*drops the microphone emphatically*

On September 23 2012 02:28 Sharrant wrote:
Wait. So, someone you think is scum called you scum, so you're not going to do anything? Am I clear on that?

Someone you called scum, called you scum, so you don't want to make any more cases in case someone calls you scum, you're just going to wait until deadline and be lynched? I can't tell if you're gambling on sympathy to not get voted up, or if you're sincere and really hurt by debears saying you're scum. The latter means you're the thinnest skinned individual in the world, and that's a one in six billion chance.

On September 23 2012 02:19 Dandel Ion wrote:

But I understand that nobody will latch onto any of my wagons currently.
Last time I pushed a case of mine, debears called me scum for it.
Now now, I DO think that debears is scum, but I don't see a better fate for any of my cases as long as I live.
My plan right now is to set it up so that you will look back at my cases after I flip green and go all "oh he was green maybe I should actually read what he writes instead of jumping to stupid conclusions first"

So I currently hope that you won't just ignore my posts after I get lynched, and look at the people I make cases on. That's kind of a far-fetched assuption, given that town doesn't seem to give a shit about winning, but I care about meeting my wincon, so I'm going to do my best to meet my wincon.

"You" meaning all of town, not thrawn specifically.

On September 23 2012 02:43 Sharrant wrote:
Yes. That is directed towards you.



What the fuck is that? Honestly. I was going to bold the important parts, but it's all so... what the fuck?

You pushed a case. Debears called you scum. You think debears is scum. But "I don't see a better fate for any of my cases as long as I live". So what? I told you to convince me that you're town, Rethos left you in a hole and you're digging it deeper. You say you're trying to meet your win condition. How exactly? Let's say you're town, you're willfully getting lynched. You're not trying to convince anyone, you've apparently given up on scumhunting in the hopes that your reads are then taken more seriously when you die. So you want the town to be down another town member on the second day, and then another at night. So you're perfectly fine with 4 town deaths in a row. How is that trying to meet your win condition unless you're not town.

Let's say you're mafia. You're pretty sure you're found out, but you don't want to give out any potential information on your scumbuddies so you clam up, so that you go down without revealing anyone else.

One of those sounds a lot more likely with everything you've said. You're not doing yourself any favours. Trying to make yourself a martyr as town ISN'T GOING TO HELP. So make some cases, and then you might not be the one lynched, and you might actually get that scum kill you were looking for.