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On September 22 2012 04:32 kushm4sta wrote:
I am giving my current sober read.
Why do I think he's not scum? because scum are less likely to.get bored. because being bored gives him a reason to lie about testing towns lurker leniency.
Ok I definitely agree that scum are less likely to be bored. Which is why if he's scum then the boredom claim is yet another lie. It also looks like another lie because his D1 filter doesn't show signs of boredom, and coming into the thread and lying about lurking plans also doesn't show boredom. Since he already had shown how much he likes lying, I think the boredom claim is another lie and he asked to get replaced because he, or maybe his fellow scum, realized that he had just fucked up big time.
And I don't see how being bored would give a town rethos motivation to lie and say he had a lurker policy testing plan. If he was really bored and he was town, why not just say sorry i've gotten bored and want to be replaced? Or even better why would he even jump back into the thread and make crazy sounding lies in as an excuse to not be lynched? He should've just pm'd a mod saying he wants out and not gone to extreme lengths (lying) to get people to stop accusing him of lurking.
Bored-town-rethos doesn't make sense. Lying scum rethos makes more sense... especially after seeing how eager he was to lie and lie about lies and so on.
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So your read is:
I am giving my current sober read.
Why do I think he's not scum? because scum are less likely to.get bored. because being bored gives him a reason to lie about testing towns lurker leniency.
And your opinion of that read is:
Wtf I was actually quite proud of my reasoning and when I wad writting it I was thinking to myself damn this is going to convince everybody
.... Can you not see why I/the thread might have a problem with that?
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There are 2 aspects to my argument.
1 he left because he was actually bored, not as scum tactic.
2 if he was actually bored, his lie makes sense.
the nature of boredom
Think about what happens when you get bored of a game. you stop playing it as frequently. you get bored sometimes before you even realize you are bored. you come back to try to play the game and you realize...damn I'm bored.
He was not bored day 1...he became bored and that is what caused his long afk. Why didn't he admit to being bored when he first came back? because he didnt want to admit it to himself yet. why did he lie about it? he had no reason to be afk so he might as well say something that reinforced his anti lurker message.
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Both of you are just repeating the same thing over and over now.
This isn't constructive. Talk about something else pls.
Like my Remedy case.
I like my Remedy case.
Who else likes my Remedy case?
Who doesn't like my Remedy case?
Pls include reasons.
Also, Sharky lurking even harder than Cubu (#1 replacement (I'm only #2 cuz I wasn't insta"confirmed" town, so I'm automatically worse)), Stutters not posting and Kush & Thrawn repeating the same arguments over and over.
This all and more in this episode of "Bitches in the Brothel"
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I feel really strongly about this read. His behavior fits my bored town read so perfectly and truly I am baffled that other people aren't seeing it.
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k you are right dandel.
I'm dropping it.
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it doesn't even matter to me that sharky is lurking. him and sharrant are so town I think its ridiculous to even bring them up as a scum possibility.
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On September 22 2012 05:52 kushm4sta wrote:
k you are right dandel.
I'm dropping it.
What do you think about Remedy?
I wanna talk about Remedy so bad
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On September 22 2012 05:56 kushm4sta wrote:
it doesn't even matter to me that sharky is lurking. him and sharrant are so town I think its ridiculous to even bring them up as a scum possibility.
It's not a scum pssibility.
He's lurking hard, so I'm just saying that he's lurking hard.
And if you think it doesn't matter, well that's like, your problem man, cause a almost-confirmed town not giving a fuck and not doing anything matters to me.
But I can just stand in this corner over here, with the other people that actually give a shit about winning the game. Not a crowded corner, but we have good coffee.
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well yeah he's being terrible town but from a scumhunting perspective it doesn't matter. honestly I doubt he is even going to read everything, so even though I trust him, his reads would probably be bad.
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On September 22 2012 05:45 Dandel Ion wrote:
Both of you are just repeating the same thing over and over now.
This isn't constructive. Talk about something else pls.
Like my Remedy case.
I like my Remedy case.
Who else likes my Remedy case?
Who doesn't like my Remedy case?
Pls include reasons.
Also, Sharky lurking even harder than Cubu (#1 replacement (I'm only #2 cuz I wasn't insta"confirmed" town, so I'm automatically worse)), Stutters not posting and Kush & Thrawn repeating the same arguments over and over.
This all and more in this episode of "Bitches in the Brothel"
I've said pretty much all I have to say about remedy during N1. I started looking into his filter because of this post. Go and look at the craziness that went down in the last few hours of D1. Rethos wasn't around for the most crucial part but then he comes in 6 minutes after the lynch saying the the mislynch didn't go well. He later said he did that because he was lurking in the thread 30-40 minutes before the deadline but he didn't feel like he had anything useful to say. Then he made some (imo and apparently yours too) weak and poorly thought out accusations against me and this was right after kush had made a massive FOS on me. (btw kush that statement is not a suspicion of you it's a suspicion of remedy) Before the rethos thing happened he was my top scumread. Another weird thing happened with him since all that was is he came into the thread and made this post:
On September 22 2012 03:15 RemedySC wrote:
Also this was rethos's first game ever.
Before playing mafia, he would be excited to try it out. Maybe he couldn't get into though.
That's all he has to say about a topic that has caused votes for a player this early on in D1?
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edit: replace remedy with rethos in "Rethos wasn't around for the most crucial part"
lol but that statement would be true for rethos as well
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I want to wait until I'm at my pc so I can actually do a good job of reading filters and cross referencing with the thread for context.
your case against remedy is just lack of scumhunting right? I think its true that he's all accusation and no argumentation. I want to look onto that more, then ask him to expand on his reasoning for some of.his accusations and see what he comes up with.
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On September 22 2012 06:06 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2012 05:45 Dandel Ion wrote:
Both of you are just repeating the same thing over and over now.
This isn't constructive. Talk about something else pls.
Like my Remedy case.
I like my Remedy case.
Who else likes my Remedy case?
Who doesn't like my Remedy case?
Pls include reasons.
Also, Sharky lurking even harder than Cubu (#1 replacement (I'm only #2 cuz I wasn't insta"confirmed" town, so I'm automatically worse)), Stutters not posting and Kush & Thrawn repeating the same arguments over and over.
This all and more in this episode of "Bitches in the Brothel" I've said pretty much all I have to say about remedy during N1. I started looking into his filter because of this post. Go and look at the craziness that went down in the last few hours of D1. Rethos wasn't around for the most crucial part but then he comes in 6 minutes after the lynch saying the the mislynch didn't go well. He later said he did that because he was lurking in the thread 30-40 minutes before the deadline but he didn't feel like he had anything useful to say. Then he made some (imo and apparently yours too) weak and poorly thought out accusations against me and this was right after kush had made a massive FOS on me. (btw kush that statement is not a suspicion of you it's a suspicion of remedy) Before the rethos thing happened he was my top scumread. Another weird thing happened with him since all that was is he came into the thread and made this post: Show nested quote +On September 22 2012 03:15 RemedySC wrote:
Also this was rethos's first game ever.
Before playing mafia, he would be excited to try it out. Maybe he couldn't get into though. That's all he has to say about a topic that has caused votes for a player this early on in D1?
I think you are confusing rethos and Remedy now.
Which is why I'd prefer we only talk about one person at a time, especially if their names are similar.
But I know you were the only one that replied to the Remedy case. I just want other people to comment on it too. Or on somebody else they think is scummy. Doesn't matter at this point.
This thread has too much pointless bickering, and next to no scumhunting.
And no, saying "we lynch rethos ggyo, vote" is not scumhunting.
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not confusing them, see my edit post
and kush. have you read any of the stuff I said about remedy during N1? it's not just about a lack of scumhunting
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On September 22 2012 06:10 thrawn2112 wrote:
edit: replace remedy with rethos in "Rethos wasn't around for the most crucial part"
lol but that statement would be true for rethos as well
That is actually completely wrong. In fact, one might call it a lie. In fact, it is a lie.
rethos never even aknowledged the misslynch or anything.
He was just gone for a long time and then went full retard, without commenting on anything happening.
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On September 22 2012 06:15 kushm4sta wrote:
I want to wait until I'm at my pc so I can actually do a good job of reading filters and cross referencing with the thread for context.
your case against remedy is just lack of scumhunting right? I think its true that he's all accusation and no argumentation. I want to look onto that more, then ask him to expand on his reasoning for some of.his accusations and see what he comes up with.
On September 22 2012 06:18 thrawn2112 wrote:
not confusing them, see my edit post
and kush. have you read any of the stuff I said about remedy during N1? it's not just about a lack of scumhunting
Yeah, that's why I didn't include that in my post too.
Maybe I should have, it seems that memories are short.
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thrawn at the time I didn't like the no lynch confusion argument but I don't think I ever fully understood it.
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the aknowledging mislynch part is not what I was saying would be true for rethos, just the part i quoted about him being absent during the most important part of d1. his last post before deadline was 3 hours before
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On September 22 2012 06:23 kushm4sta wrote:
thrawn at the time I didn't like the no lynch confusion argument but I don't think I ever fully understood it.
that was atreides who suggested no lynch, not remedy
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