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This is going to be good =) | ||
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also is the deadline now set in stone for 22:00 GMT (+00:00) | ||
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I not really sure about Risen vs. Prphlz. Seems like they both overreacted to something the other did. I don't like Risens green claim so early on. It serves no purpose what so ever and only gives scum a better chance to hit blue (yes he could have lied to confuse them, but then again serves no purpose for town if he is lying - just makes him a liar) What did catch my attention that no one else seems to have noticed is this (minor thing): On September 06 2012 06:04 Risen wrote: EBWOP: Awww, day 1 post totally ruined my flavor :/ which indicates that Risen had prepared the post _before_ the day post. Why would anyone prepare a post before day 1 post? Town have nothing to prepare since they have nothing to hide. These two minor things makes me believe Risen might be scum. What I also find interesting is how both Zephirdd and V7 have already taken sides. O_o How can one takes sides when both sides really have no substantial arguments? And both took sides with equally weak reasons. Zehpirdd with the "Kenpachi rule extended" crap. V7 with "Either you don't think at all or you are aggresive scum hiding it poorly" which really doesn't say anything. So far I think Zephirdd, V7 or Risen is leaning scummy. | ||
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On September 06 2012 19:06 Bluelightz wrote: Opinion's on Risen: While, I usually take the "HOLY SHIT WTF?" route on VT claims d1, I think this claim, is a legitimate claim, because: 1.His defensive behavior once voted back from prplhz. 2.Him actually pointing a finger to a guy who support's him. Also gonna check zeph's filter after GSL and MW3 playing. Both points can be scum traits aswell as town traits. I still see his VT claim as stupid and unnecesary. | ||
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On September 06 2012 21:12 Ange777 wrote: @Dirkzor: I have seen other players prepare posts before the day 1 post regardless of alignment. I don't think this can be taken as an indicator for scummy behaviour. It can if said post was altered as it clearly was in Risen's case. There is no way he could have know about prplhz's post before the game so that was added after the game started. either way I agree this is a minor thing. It just rubs the wrong way... What do you think about people taking sides on the prplhz vs. risen thing and the reason given? | ||
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##Vote Risen On September 07 2012 01:33 Risen wrote: Oh... I was just going with the flow man :/ Also, that entire post I just made was directed under the impression that you thought I was scummy here. Apparently it was directed at Keirathi. My previous post makes little sense now :/ He gives a reason why he made a post quoting a post made AFTER his initial post. When called out he finds another place where is is "called out as scum": Keirathi already pointed out his backpadelling on the whole prplhz-is-scum deal. It's some mighty stupid pressure if you don't think he is scum | ||
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I don't put much stock in prplhz's first post. If you read the entire sentence its clear its sarcasm. I'll read the thread and tell you who is scum. That is impossible (or stupid if he is scum) to know who is scum and thus the sentence is clearly sarcasm. Also he have been here and active beyond just defending himself. I still think you have done scummy things Risen. That or blatantly stupid moves as a townie. You CLEARLY changed your view on prplhz from "He is scum. I'm 65% sure" to "I never actually thought he was scum". Same goes with your "You called me scum *here*" "Oh that was after my post? Then you called me scum *there*!" I actually don't like keirathi all that much either at the moment... But that should and shall not change my view on your level of scummyness, Risen. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On September 07 2012 04:06 Ange777 wrote: Ok, guess I have to assume Risen is just misusing the term bussing. @Risen: The more you post the less I am convinced of town motivation for your play. @Dirkzor: What exactly is it in Keir's play that you don't like? Keir started out by stating that it takes him time to make an opinion. He used "I think..." "I don't know..." and such a lot in his early post as pointed out by marv. He then suddenly have a clear cut opinion about Risen. While I agree that Risen is the scummiest so far the change in his posting is interesting. Mostly that. And gut feelings. + Show Spoiler + On September 07 2012 04:10 Risen wrote: This is such a scummy post. Why are you and Keirathi so intent on taking what I say and twisting it? Scum brothers defending each other? Note the bold. "Oh I'm suspicious of him (if Keir flips scum you have something to point to) but I'm not voting him. I'm also not going to state exactly why I find him scummy." Also, just brushing off prpl's entire first post as sarcasm? What? Why not do the same for me. Every one of my posts has been sarcastic. What a joke. Why is the post scummy? You fail to say that beside throwing random theories around. I AM suspicious of him since I have no clue who is scum and he have done stuff that rattle my scumbells (See above). And regarding prplhz's first post. Maybe sarcasm is the wrong word, but I find it perfectly clear that the sentence you bolded and commented on - "everybody should write something then i'll read it tomorrow evening and tell you who is scum" - is not meant to be taken literally. I'd compare it to someone saying at the start of any bold game: Give the ball to me and I'll win this for us. Everybody knows its not going to happen that way but its a sign of confidence. I'm not brushing of his entire post. Just that line. Rest of prp's first post is just him being lazy. So the whole post is super non.allignment telling in my opinion. + Show Spoiler + On September 07 2012 04:13 Risen wrote: TOWN DIRK AND KEIR WOULD NOT CONTINUOUSLY MISQUOTE ME! The whole line. "I never actually thought he was scum, he was just the scummiest guy in a thread of like 3 posters so he got the ball rolling." I think it's pretty clear that by saying, "When I made my first post prpl was the scummiest guy in thread. I didn't actually think he was scum, but as he sounded scummiest it seemed best to choose him as the target of my pressure." After re-reading I'll give you that it can be read like you say. But I'll also give Keir that the context of the question from Zephirdd lead me to think you meant prp's scummyness during the whole thread, not just the first post. I'll just disregard this info as it could be either way. + Show Spoiler + On September 07 2012 04:31 marvellosity wrote: also to this, no. They are common mafia abbreviatons and if you don't understand them that's your bloody problem, not the other players, and it's down to YOU to fix. What I meant is that using WIFOM or OMGUS just leads to confusion because people misuse them and people have different opinion about what it actually means. Confusion leads to anger. Anger leads to hate and hate leads to the Dark Side! | ||
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That and he attacked BL's post very hard when BL was actually saying that he believed Risen's VT claim. And the VT claim. Which is stupid. No reason or need for him to claim. | ||
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On September 07 2012 00:54 Risen wrote: 1) Defensive behavior? Where? I'm just telling prpl to stop digging himself a hole. 2) I don't know who scum and town are beyond myself. I'm going to point out anything and everything I find that's scummy, including about people who "support" me. Why on earth would you find that scummy? Looks like you're reaching trying to paint something as scummy when it's not. Not cool my dude. Lol, and then I like how you point out the same exact thing I do in your case post. Real nice. Bolded: He didn't. You clearly thought that BL was "out to get you" and this made a defence. That was not even close to what BL was doing. Getting overly defensive when not needed IS a scumtell. Just because I haven't moved my vote yet doesn't mean I'm not reconsidering constantly. I'm not "insisting" on voting you. I voted you once. So stop acting butthurt and loose the aggresive hurt tone in your post. Its getting old. Same goes to you Marv. | ||
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Will re-read everything tomorrow morning. I want BL and zephirdd to post more! | ||
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This is possible the worst quote chain in the entire thread combined with the worst defence I've ever seen. Can't believed I missed this the first time around. Risen why don't you just answer the mans question? Keirathi got a point and the timeline he was setting up fits what I also read in the thread. | ||
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On September 07 2012 22:07 marvellosity wrote: Dirk, tell me about Zeph dear. Zephirdd always tickles my scumbells. Like ALWAYS. I can never read him. Same this game. He gives a bad reason for voting prplhz over Risen - scummy. He then talks about the stupid kenpachi rule for the rest of his posts. He complains that no one is posting while not really producing anything himself. | ||
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(actually anyone can answer, but i want V7 to answer the most) | ||
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I won't be here at deadline since I will most likely be drunk... | ||
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On September 08 2012 01:23 Risen wrote: Dirk is giving me scummy feelings. 1) Says he most likely won't be voting me at deadline, still hasn't unvoted me and now he's conveniently going to be absent around deadline. 2) Outs his "town reads" openly in thread. As a town player there's no reason to do this you'll just get your town reads shot. As scum there's plenty of reasons to do this since it makes the person you're calling town like you. 3) Calls Keir scummy, and does nothing about it. I don't think there's a possibility of a Dirk/Keir scum team at this point in time, so I'm going to ##unvote We'll see what continues to develop in this thread and I'll place my vote on someone. I still have Keir as my top scum read, but Dirk is trying so hard to make it up there. Way to overreact. 1) Never said that. Go back and read what I wrote. I wrote I was constantly reconsidering (which should be true for everyone - except scum). I never said I would unvote you. Conviently absent my ass! It's friday night. I get drunk Friday night. 2) I've outed 1 townread. And that was when the discussion was about that person. Also no one is going to shoot BL if he is town. At least I would never do that as scum (been there in "I'm a cop you idiot mafia"). 3) Yes I think keir have done scummy stuff. I think you (risen) have done scummy stuff. Only got 1 vote... You are reaching now Risen. You're reaching for stuff that isn't there and making blind accusation about my privat life. Like I would lie about it to win. For your infomation Mike Sheridan is playing in Tivoli at Fredags Rock (Friday Rock) tonight and I'll most likely go hear him play. Yes I said you looked better from posting after my vote but you are still the most scummy in the thread. This morning when rereading I found your top notch defence of Keir's accusation (that you still haven't answered btw) which was super scummy. And now a weird vote on me? ##Vote Risen (For emphasis!) | ||
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On September 08 2012 01:39 Risen wrote: I disagree, I think he'd leave you alone entirely if he was your scum partner. I don't think it's smart for scum teams to bus each other day 1. I'd bus the living shit out of my teammate in a 2 scum setup. At least I wouldn't leave my scumpartner alone. (Again see I'm a cop you idiot mafia even though that game played out where I HAD to bus basicly) Don't think about what scum might or might not. They do all sorts of crazy things (see drazerk) | ||
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You are drowning and reaching for anything to grab on to. Or so it appears. I hope you are a good swimmer Everyone voting is scum or what? | ||
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And yes that was emotional because you basicly called me a liar about my personal life. Something I would never do to win a game of mafia. | ||
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This will be my last post before deadline. Risen I'll tell you why I think you are scum and you can take ir or leave it. Consider the fact that several people (not only scum trying to get you lynched) read your game as scum might indicate that its your play that is wrong. Or at least in this game. You have been the most active yes. That is correct. But during your impressive filter for day1 with 9 players you have contradicted yourself several times and been wishy washy about stuff. Like prplhz being scum, like hopping on everyone that voted you, like if marv was scum he would do X (what ange pointed out). Your VT claim early on (which you yourself said was stupid later). All you have maneged with all your posts are to confused people what you actually meant while trying desperatly to explain your thoughts. While it all might be the way you say it is, thats not what I read in your filter. You attacked BL when he said he believed your VT claim. Getting defensive over small things and nitpicking small things in other. You post longwinded posts about meta between you and Marv that doesn't really serve a purpose or have a point. You have done so many things that are either useless or slightly scummy for me to feel very good about lynching you. If you are town (which I hope you are not) you have still done your duty as town and have made people react and thus we can use that information going forward. Martyring is for quitters. | ||
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Yes he was town and that sucks but the lynch was good. I'll be re-reading my notes (and updating them) and re-reading day 1 tomorrow. Gut feeling have me pointing fingers at zeph and vader7. Nothing substantial yet though... | ||
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I have no intention of lynching you - so far. On September 09 2012 03:03 Ange777 wrote: Risen  I said I can understand his frustration because partially people were accusing him based on his starting post which I have stated more than once seems like a normal fluff post to me. I did vote for him as well but not because of that post. So this is the lynch order Risen has suggested. Out of his list there are a few players I have my suspicions about. One of them is: Zeph Zeph initially started off with a defense of Risen based on meta. When re-reading his case and vote on Risen there is something odd which didn't trigger any bells earlier as I was too preoccupied with Risen's own posts to notice this. There is anything wrong with calling someone the scummiest guy in the thread and not being 100% sure if he is scum or not. Especially this early into a game when we only have a handful of posts to judge the alignments of every single player. Yet you paint it as if Risen had contradicted himself. I can see no contradiction in his posting regarding prplhz. Going for an early pressure vote, you can't sound weak or people will not take the pressure seriously. So there is nothing wrong with calling someone scum directly and than when having to clarify stating that he was the scummiest player at that time. While Keir was following the same line of thought in his own case previously, I feel a town vibe from his posts given the fact that Keir was posting actively and was discussing the said case with Risen. Zeph however only sheeped Keir's case without adding anything substantial of his own. And he only voted when it was pretty sure that Risen was set to be lynched. Now Zeph is taking an easy way out with this post: Why does it take you two days to get more reads? As long as we actively hunt for scum there will be discussion in this thread even without Risen and with that everyone of us should be able to get better reads. All you are doing is calling Bluelightz out without applying any real pressure. Right now, Zeph's play feels incredibly scummy. I have yet to see real scum hunting. Instead all I see is sheeping another player's case in voting a town player. No effort in looking for scum yourself. Because you yourself are scum? @Bluelightz: What made you decide to vote for V7 and not one of the other players whom you haven't commented on. I suppose you have a null read on the rest of us as well? ##Vote Zephirdd Yes I'm sheeping. This post is the best so far in this game Ange was town. I have my own feelings about zeph which ange pointed out really well in this post and: On September 07 2012 22:17 Dirkzor wrote: Zephirdd always tickles my scumbells. Like ALWAYS. I can never read him. Same this game. He gives a bad reason for voting prplhz over Risen - scummy. He then talks about the stupid kenpachi rule for the rest of his posts. He complains that no one is posting while not really producing anything himself. | ||
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He still got my vote. | ||
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1) Meta 2) His "slip" about NMM2/NMM3 3) revesed OMGUS because he voted me with OMGUS When you put it up like that its a really weak case. But I'll look at filters later... | ||
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On September 10 2012 15:08 vaderseven wrote: God I don't like any of the current cases at all. I will be around to answer questions AND i have next two days off work so I'll be a bit more active. Then answer me this: Who is scum? | ||
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I'll ask differently then. What do you think about Zephs case on marv and marv's lack of defence to that case? | ||
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On September 10 2012 12:07 Zephirdd wrote: Town marvellosity isn't this bad. He had a scum read on me and threw a vote on the worst person to get a vote, which is Dirkzor. Dirkzor, the one guy known for having convoluted logic. The one guy that is more mislynched as town than marv is shot as town. town marvellosity does not straight OMGUS'es without an essay worth of reasons. This is a lazy post that allows him to have a vote parked somewhere and to make him look like he is contributing. I can't remember being lynched as town tbh... Can't remember ever to be lynched. Hmm... convoluted logic? =( I have to check now... | ||
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That and I find zephirdd scum. So thats why I'm voting there. His entire case on Marv is reaching and meta. to be fair I sstill havent read the filters yet but the entire case just lack real substance to me. | ||
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On September 10 2012 15:08 vaderseven wrote: God I don't like any of the current cases at all. I will be around to answer questions AND i have next two days off work so I'll be a bit more active. HELLOOOO!!! Where did all your activity go? I want to vote you more and more V7. I'll try to figure out the marv/zeph things later. Zpeh could you point out why marv i scummy besides meta stuff and his lack of cases this game? | ||
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So that leaves him out for the lynch. Vader vanished after saying he would have the whole day off work and would be more active. Only reason I can see for disappearing is because town was already dead set on lynching Zephirdd who he didn't really care about. On September 06 2012 12:09 vaderseven wrote: First off, I agree with prplhz that his vote on Risen is NOT an omgus. I also agree with his general read on Risen and would like to add to it. This post bothers me alot. Your first post is to declare, with a big bold picture and green text, that you are Green and that we should trust you. You go on to say some feel good stuff about how we will win cuz we are awesomesauce or something. What prplhz wrote there is fairly standard first post kinda stuff. He is asking people to post so that he can scum hunt... so that makes him scum?? I see no merit to that thought. I really just don't like your play at all this game Risen. I am feeling fairly sure, for a day 1, that you are either not thinking AT ALL before you post (and I think I recall playing with you before and not thinking that) or you are scum and just not doing a 100% job of hiding it. Of the two possibles there, I find it a fair chance for it to be that you are aggressive scum that is hiding it poorly. ##vote Risen Vaders first post is made to attack Risen while defend Prplhz. Something I found strange at the time since both persons reason for voting eachother was stupid. Why take a stance with so little infomation and equally shitty posts from 2 different persons. On September 08 2012 15:05 vaderseven wrote: Risen played horribly. That sucks. :/ The smiley gets my scumbells ringing. Screams false investment in the lynch. "Oh look at me I'm sad he died I'm so town" On September 09 2012 09:49 vaderseven wrote: That narrows down the setup types possible OR you are lieing in order to make us think that. Not saying you are a liar btw. "Not saying you are a liar btw" Then what is the point of this post? Yes there is a distinct possible that Keir is lieing but we all know that. All the post did was blow into the ashes of uncertainty: "Did he lie or not?" without saying anything direct himself. If you don't like the cases you make your own case. He stated he have the time due to time of work and promised activity but he haven't posted since. All you know from reading Vaders filter is that Risan was scummy and Prplhz first post wasn't scummy. ##unvote ##Vote Vaderseven I would not be surprised by a prplhz vader scumteam | ||
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You should vote Vader, if not to policy lynch him for promising activty and failing to deliver, then because of my awesome case on him and his careless approach to the game and his inactivity. | ||
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On September 11 2012 06:28 prplhz wrote: ##Vote vaderseven I can get on board this lynch, thought he was kind of weird day1 and with no counter claim yet it looks like Zephirdd is actually a cop. I have no idea why people are hating on the Bluelightz lynch so much though. Now zephirdd was a legit lynchcandidate that needed a cop claim not to get your vote while earlier you thought Zeph was a bad lynch? that how I read it anyway.. That prp is voting Vader makes me iffy. After re-reading I would rather see prp hang but its kinda late for that. And I'm to tired to make a case now... | ||
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Now at lylo that doesn't really work anymore since we need to get the mafiosos. I still think prplhz is the most scummy with BL/marv/kei coming behind (in that order). I didn't add zephirdd because he will most likely die. If he doesn't I'll think about then when it happens. On September 11 2012 06:28 prplhz wrote: ##Vote vaderseven I can get on board this lynch, thought he was kind of weird day1 and with no counter claim yet it looks like Zephirdd is actually a cop. I have no idea why people are hating on the Bluelightz lynch so much though. This got posted 30 min before deadline. Right after that post he is asked several questions here (zephirdd) and here (me) He is clearly reading the thread because he made a follow up to marvs response to Zephirdd's case/post on prplhz just stating: On September 11 2012 06:49 prplhz wrote: "a bit" lol Why not repsond to the questions asked? Prplhz havent willingly given up any reads this game. He was onto Risen day 1. Then changed to Keir when the momentum changed. He than later changed back to Risen with this: On September 07 2012 05:05 prplhz wrote: Yea okay. marvellosity points out that Risen does a scumslip. This scumslip isn't just for Risen though, it also implicates marvellosity as well. Bussing requires two scum, not one. marvellosity realizes that if Risen is lynched it is only a matter of time before someone figures this out and so he backs off. His backing off is also weird, it's allegedly because the lynch gained momentum but he doesn't say this before he is called out, he just says "I have my reasons but I'm not going to explain" and then the explanation is like, 10 words long. I don't like this one bit and I'd rather lynch Risen and then we can talk about marvellosity tomorrow. ##Vote Risen Consider how much Risen had written in the beginning and that is the best reason prplhz can come up with? When asked by ange about zeph he doesn't answer. He just brings up BL instead: On September 09 2012 05:29 prplhz wrote: I'm not really all that worried about him right now. I'm more worried about Bluelightz. This game he was the only one to go against the Risen lynch (besides Risen himself). The last game I remember Bluelightz going against the "mainstream" lynch was Wheel of Fortune Mafia. In that game Bluelightz made a ton of cases on other people because he thought that zentor was town and that it was a mislynch. Everybody agreed that Bluelightz played really well post game, he even got a mention from Radfield in the Mafia Awards thread. This is how "moved" Bluelightz is from a mislynch that he didn't like this game: Next post after deadline: This doesn't look like the townie Bluelightz at all, it looks like a guy who doesn't give a shit at all and that's very unlike Bluelightz. I don't like Ange777 either, in the filters I read she was posting text wall after text wall exposing scum and apparently also carrying her team to victory. I don't see any of that here. There is prodding and there is poking but there's no whacking with a big stick but I'm less sure about this. Bluelightz is looking really bad. If prplhz is scum he would also know that Ange was about to die. making his "I don't like Ange777 either" comment stick out. Prplhz have only given reads on players who died shortly after - or BL. This one on Ange777 and then his big "risen is scum" post at the end of d1. Here The timing of that "case" was also perfect. (also note that the reason he voted Risen the 2nd time - his scumslip - isn't mentioned in this case) The lynch was basicly decided by then. On September 09 2012 03:29 Ange777 wrote: @prplhz: Do you think that I am scum? On September 09 2012 03:37 prplhz wrote: It's a distinct possibility. Can you answer my question and tell me why you thought Risen was scum? I don't even get why you ignored it the first time but I'm sure you have a good reason for that. Again a half answer. Of course its a distinct possibility. Then a deflection on to a guy already dead (Risen). The qeustion he wants ange to answer is 24h old. The player in question is dead. I would say the question is most likely irrelevant at that point in time. And the question asked is stupid since its all clearly written in Ange's filter. And if you go read was happens after, prplhz doesn't use the answer given by ange to anything. No follow up or anything. But just because Prplhz is as much scum as the night is black doesn't clear BL. I think prplhz was bussing him. Why? On September 09 2012 17:20 prplhz wrote: @Keirathi What do you think about Bluelightz? On September 10 2012 06:49 prplhz wrote: i don't like how everybody is ignoring my bluelightz case "that's bluelightz for you" no it isn't, this isn't bluelightz. marv tell me why you like bluelightz and why you don't like zeph. On September 10 2012 20:23 prplhz wrote: I don't really like this Zephirdd lynch and I have no idea how so many people can think that Bluelightz looks townie. Dirkzor why do you think that Bluelightz is town? Fishing for other peoples townread on BL. Instead of asking why I think he is town, why didn't he try to change my/our beliefs? He didn't just as he never actively pushed for BL's lynch. All in all I'm pretty sure prplhz is scum. I'm not ruling out anyone at this moment but I have to go with my best scum read. | ||
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My argument in short is that you haven't been very forthcoming with your reads or opinion about this game. Actually quite the contrary. And that is a scum motive because scum knows more then the rest and don't want to get caught sharing infomation they shouldn't have had. Your risen for voting risen (see what I did there?) the 2nd time is crap. And you point out why yourself here: You know perfectly well that you find scum one by one and not teams trying to bus each other. Those theories always go to shit. If Risen scumslipped why would marv point it out? And why would marv back out? + Show Spoiler + Reason for my mention of BL/prplhz scum team was because of marv/zephirdd/kei talking about how to connect BL to you or me. if you think your argument for voting risen the 2nd is/was so good why not mention it again in you big post why you tinhk Risen is scum? But you didn't. So it wasn't such a big deal huh? You know that scum makes stuff up and then forget tihngs and fuck up. Its a good way to catch scum... huh... Half answer: When asked by ange about zeph you write: "I'm not really all that worried about him right now." ang continue to the post with a case on BL. When asked by Ange about ange you write: "It's a distinct possibility" and then bring back up some 24h old question. My argument is that you have been just as disinterested in this game as BL have but less forthcoming with your reads. | ||
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On September 11 2012 22:39 Quatol wrote: because you've done jack shit all game Happy Birthday Quatol! On September 11 2012 22:38 Bluelightz wrote: Oh fuck, vaderseven. Why the fuck are you guys for pointing at me for lynching a medic that didn't BOTHER defend and claimed in the last 10 minutes? only because of an impending modkill. Looking over some other stuff, prplhz looks like a fine lynch target, but I guess I should be more careful when pushing people. This post is actually really super duper scummy. BL didn't lynch anyone, so why does he assume we think he was behind the V7 lynch? Prplhz is "fine". What?!? Why? And no you shouldn't be more careful when pushing because that how you get scummy people lynched. | ||
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If lynching BL helps you get a better read on me or prplhz I say lynch him first. How are you with the shortened days? And all ask me anything and I'll answer the best I can. I'm not sure if it would help if I pushed more cases on prplhz or BL at this point. I will if you ask me - my case on prplhz stands, but I could try to dig deeper. I've tried to be transparent in my thought process throughout the game. Not something that can be said about either Prplhz or BL. | ||
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On September 11 2012 06:28 prplhz wrote: ##Vote vaderseven I can get on board this lynch, thought he was kind of weird day1 and with no counter claim yet it looks like Zephirdd is actually a cop. I have no idea why people are hating on the Bluelightz lynch so much though. Post like these. You had never mentioned Vader before this post. You claim that you found him weird d1 but we have no way to know that because you never mentioned that. For all we know you were making up shit about him looking weird day1 because thats what everyone else said - and thats most likely what you did. You never willingly gave up reads. Town or scum or "he is weird" or "I'm not sure. This was scummy but this was town-like." I/we never asked you give up your town-reads just your reads. We can't all be town? (well to you we can because you already know who's who) You've only really talked about Risen or BL. Thats not very transparent is it? | ||
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On September 11 2012 23:42 Zephirdd wrote: prplhz, answer marv. After bluelightz, who would you lynch if it isn't dirkzor, considering my fight with marvellosity, the way it rolled out, and how keirathi has been generally useful and was roleblocked, as well as my claim. Another point in case. Answer the question? Who is scum besides BL and why? | ||
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##Vote Bluelightz | ||
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I PM'd to vote for short days btw | ||
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I just don't see a reason to argue with you. The last 2 pages is basicly saying stuff that is clearly not true. You said that you weren't boxer but someone else (me or kier iirc) was boxer. News flash: There is no boxer in this game since hopetorture died and zeph claimed cop. (Yes zeph could be boxer and fake claim but...) Someone asked me why I was thinking keir was scum and I answered. Go look that up. The only real matter now is that one of keir or zeph will have to figure out whether I'm the last scum or Prplhz is the last scum after you flip red. So keep calling prplhz town if you think you can confuse them to vote someone else then prplhz. And yes I lynched you once. It was the best game I've ever played (imho). But this time the roles are reversed. To bad I win again. | ||
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For some reason I'm never lynched. I say to my self its because I'm fairly town. Since I know I'm not the best scumhunter I try to appear as town as possible to others so they can take me out of the equation. Risen you clearly doesn't agree that I looked townie and thats fine. I was so right about Prplhz. I was so right about BL (earlier). Reason to suspect BL in the end was because I ran out of scum reads. I should have trusted my gut about both keir and BL and looked closer at keir. He was there in the back of my mind - and it shows clearly when I asked marv is he had considered Keir RB himself. In the end I decided to sheep Zeph/Keir because BL was my 2nd scumread. I would lynch risen again next game if played out similarly. Posting a lot isn't a towntell when what you write isn't thought through and just confuse the crap out of me. Keir you played very well. You play the same style of scum as I do: think as town, post as town. It works in smaller setups but I have no clue about large games. (I try to avoid those) It's super cool to play scum like that and by far more fun then to play town (for me). =) The setup was SUPER! I mean super good! Why? No one really talked about the setup during the game. I like simple and small. GJ hosting BH! Was super smooth. I liked that you stepped in and stopped the swearing and such. It was over the top at one point. | ||
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I agree that town didn't have any other lynch target then Risen day 1. It was of course the entire towns fault, but Risen just kept posting keeping himself in focus. I would go so far as to say it would have been better if Risen had posted less on d1 than he did. In order for me to improve I'm asking anyone to explain (or even make a "real" case) how exactly I looked scummy? Try to not use hindsight because that will just ruin it. | ||
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