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Am I really being that illogical here, or is town that bad? I trust QT to decide. | ||
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On September 08 2012 04:39 prplhz wrote: Risen: The reason I voted for him in the first place stands. I don't believe that you can have a clear scum read 3 posts into the game. Risen seemed anxious that no one was talking in the thread after his initial post and then when I immediately after asked him a simple question about his vote for me, he spent 10 minutes writing a 6 line response. This seems too carefully thought through if the case is just a "joke vote" to get things rolling. The guy was actually trying to write a real case 3 posts into the game and I don't believe this. Then later he tries to back down on that by saying it was obvious that his case was a joke. Then why did he not act as if it was a joke? It seems like he was just trying to downplay it because it was getting him into trouble. I pretty much think that this is enough, conflicting motives for actions is a clear sign of scum because scum never have any motive other than "Man, I better write some shit so they don't yell at me for lurking". Later he tries to back down even more by saying that he never actually thought I was scum, but townies don't lie and everything in his behavior said that he thought I was scum. There is no reason ever that a townie would make that much of an effort trying to make it seem like he thought I was scum unless he really did think that, there's no guaranteed benefit but there are potential disasters just waiting to happen. Townies don't do stuff like that. I also found this post very interesting. For a guy who has a 5 page filter in a 17 page game, he never asked who Quatol was even though he was "having a seizure". This is really weird because townies usually just shoot from the hip and ask whatever questions but even though he seems like he's saying what's on his mind, he actually isn't. Why is he even so nervous about Quatol? It's some dude writing whatever on another user, I knew that marvellosity is cohosting with Palmar whose smurf Quatol is so I don't know but I think townies would mostly feel annoyed that someone is making the thread harder to read by posting on another account. Risen is nervous which is something scum are but townies aren't. I think a lot of his posting seems nervous but this is a really good example of it. Why apologize? Scum apologizes but townies are like "get out, i'm the towniest townie in town just by how green my pm is". I trust my early reads because they are usually what I have the most luck with and I'm pretty sure that Risen is the best lynch for today. Also if you are some kind of blue it's probably time to claim. The game had just started you dolt. I didn't come in and spend ten minutes making a case on your post. I came in, wanted to be fruitdealer, and started writing my VT post. I saw your post in thread and to get things rolling I made a "case" on you. You responded in a scummy manner. I NEVER BACKED DOWN FROM YOU QUOTE A FUCKING POST WHERE I BACK DOWN FROM YOU STOP SAYING STUPID SHIT LIKE THAT. You know what, you right, better write something so they don't call me out for lurking EVEN THOUGH THE GAME JUST STARTED. I NEVER BACKED DOWN FROM YOU STOP REPEATING THAT IT IS NOT TRUE SHOW ME A FUCKING QUOTE. Maybe I didn't post asking b/c I thought Quatol was just another player in the game and I was trying to figure out who he was responding to? At that time I didn't have the player list memorized. You're making up things right now to try and justify your vote at this point. I'm apologizing to marv b/c I just hyrda'd with him to try and get better, but I'm doing pretty bad. You trust your early reads? You got any fucking evidence of that shit? Or is it just more feeling. I'M REALLY HAPPY WE'RE ALL LYNCHING RISEN BECAUSE OF OUR FEELINGS EVEN THOUGH WE CANT FIND A FUCKING QUOTE TO BACK UP OUR SHIT. I'm not blue. I'm VT. I hope you're scum prpl. Very well played if you are. | ||
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I'm convinced the rest of you are just horrible. I KNOW Marvel isn't horrible. Marvel is scum. Lynch Marvel. Don't let him weasel his way out of this, he's good at that. Lynch him. | ||
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On September 08 2012 05:25 Ange777 wrote: So what made you contradict yourself regarding marv? Or are you simply too lazy to answer questions directed at you? What contradiction? | ||
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On September 08 2012 05:19 prplhz wrote: Still here I just don't want to talk to someone who calls me a dolt and writes in caps because I would regret what I say later. Standard response form someone who can't actually use logical arguments. Don't listen to any cases prpl posts the rest of the game. If he's still alive day 4 just lynch him, but for god's sake don't listen to this guy. | ||
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On September 07 2012 19:38 Ange777 wrote: @Risen: Explain this! There is no contradiction here if this is what you're referring to. Where is the contradiction? Marv starts a wagon, gets off it once it's rolling for the town cred when I flip green. Marv does this because he's sneaky. | ||
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I still see no contradictions. | ||
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1) He backed off prpl. I've shown I never backed off prpl, but this continues to be a cry from too many people to have it just be scum shouting it. Hence, horrible town. 2) He contradicted himself with the marv thing. I've shown I didn't contradict myself here, either. 3)He changed his mind about who his top scum read was. As the thread evolved I changed my mind on who my top read was, yes. At the start of the day, I voted prpl for pressure. His reaction was telling to me, and I maintained my position. Keir came along with some ultra scummy shit, I moved to him. Dirk made a really, really, really scummy string of actions, causing him to become my top scum read. I'm now telling you to lynch marv b/c I know he isn't as bad as he's trying to make it seem. I don't even know if that's a meta read. It's more like I have enough confidence in a town marv to actually read the thread, whereas scum Marv would try to capitalize on idiot townies (read our QTs and trust me on our skype convos, we laugh about how bad townies are a lot) Anything else? | ||
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On September 08 2012 05:56 Keirathi wrote: So wait, he's scummy if he stays off of you for the town cred, but hes scummy if he votes you too? Sigh... I didn't know raising a possibility was calling him scummy. All I was doing in the thread was listing the possibilities for what marv was doing in the thread. I never called him scummy until he proved to me that he was scum by voting me. Anything else? All your idiotic points have been refuted, and everyone's vote is still on me. You're all horrible. I like how ange goes to sleep before bothering to read my response to Keir here. I'd like to also point out that what Keir said here is WRONG. I never said Marv was scummy for his unvote of me. I said it was a possibility that he was scum getting off me now that the wagon had started rolling. I was sharing my "notes" with the thread. (Notes = thoughts) | ||
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Lynch order: Marv > Dirk > Zeph > Keir > prpl. Pray you guys hit scum sometime in those first three or it's just over anyways. | ||
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On September 08 2012 06:08 Keirathi wrote: But you did back off prpl. Even if I give you the BotD that you were answering "Why did I vote prplhz 3 posts into the game" instead of "Why do you think prplhz is scum", you still maintained for a lot of the day that prplhz was scum. I can quote all the times you mentioned your scum read on him again, if you want. I'm not even talking about your first post, just the ones after it. But a few hours ago, you said something along of the lines of "I don't think prplhz is scum, I think he's a bad townie. Forget him and lynch Dirk/Zeph/etc". Also, I do have a question for you: What part of your meta, specifically, are you trying to change? I was under the impression that you were just trying to work on your attitude, because thats what you said you were working on in Not Themed. Your attitude has nothing to do with the meta argument that marv made against you, so your questioning of him because he made a meta argument about your townie playstyle, NOT your "FUCK YOU YOU'RE DUMB" attitude meta, doesn't make much sense to me. Meta change = changing the entire way I play. Attitude (work in progress, sorry!) and gameplay style. I don't think there's anywhere I've played as town where day 1 I was posting so actively and being so open to the trhead on my thought process. I thought the back off referred only to the misquoted and out of context statement. It's clear I've backed off him b/c I no longer have him as my top scum read. Why? Because there are scummier people in the thread. Right now if I was anyone else I would not even be considering Marv as the top slot, but once I saw Risen flip town, and took it to my head that Risen had been teamed with Marv for two games in a row now, I'd lynch him in a heartbeat. | ||
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