EPTWhat I'm saying is that people should neglect meta in our cases b/c of unique circumstances and focus instead on the content of our posts. (Unless marv is alive on day4. Policy lynch)
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What I'm saying is that people should neglect meta in our cases b/c of unique circumstances and focus instead on the content of our posts. (Unless marv is alive on day4. Policy lynch) | ||
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On September 07 2012 01:34 Quatol wrote: No, that was directed at that specific WIFOM post of yours. But that post said I might be scum bussing you... (?) when I'd made no previous mention of you being scummy Explain What is this? | ||
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On September 07 2012 01:10 marvellosity wrote: god damn that was scummy. it was directed at me. | ||
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On September 07 2012 01:41 Blazinghand wrote: Quatol is Marvellosity's smurf account. This thread now makes sense again. I almost had a seizure trying to puzzle out what was meant in that Quatol post. | ||
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[QUOTE]On September 07 2012 01:33 Risen wrote: Oh... I was just going with the flow man :/ Also, that entire post I just made was directed under the impression that you thought I was scummy here. [QUOTE]On September 07 2012 01:19 Risen wrote: How long ago was that Keir? Didn't even remember it. Hmm... why would town Marvel react so strongly to this. He's played with me as scum, he knows how I am there. Maybe he thinks I'm changing purposefully b/c he's also played with me as the "scum" team for two games straight now? That's WIFOM, but he knows this, so maybe he's just analyzing my posts on their own as scummy. This begs the question, what about my posting is scummy to you Marvel?[/QUOTE] My bad duder. Odd of you to fly off the handle with that vote, though. Hmm... If I were to be lynched I'd flip town, scum Marvel knows this. That would certainly put him in a bad spot since I'm laying out the reason for my timestamp issues in this post. Will have to see how he reacts. | ||
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Well that's going to go down as one of the dumbest things a towny has ever done if I get lynched off that rofl. I was convinced you were asking the question in response to this post. On September 07 2012 01:19 Risen wrote: How long ago was that Keir? Didn't even remember it. Hmm... why would town Marvel react so strongly to this. He's played with me as scum, he knows how I am there. Maybe he thinks I'm changing purposefully b/c he's also played with me as the "scum" team for two games straight now? That's WIFOM, but he knows this, so maybe he's just analyzing my posts on their own as scummy. This begs the question, what about my posting is scummy to you Marvel? My bad duder. Odd of you to fly off the handle with that vote, though. Hmm... If I were to be lynched I'd flip town, scum Marvel knows this. That would certainly put him in a bad spot since I'm laying out the reason for my timestamp issues in this post. Will have to see how he reacts.[/QUOTE] | ||
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On September 07 2012 00:58 marvellosity wrote: at least prplhz was voting on something that was a pile of shit, unlike Risen Looks like he's calling me out there :/ | ||
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On September 07 2012 01:49 marvellosity wrote: ugh, can't tell if Risen is being awful or scum Awful. I'm sorry  I'M NOT PALMAR! I WISH I WAS, THOUGH! | ||
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In both of those cases you kept telling me stop posting Risen. Risen stop posting. Risen the posting has gotta stop. Risen, you're posting again. In this game, you're posting a lot more than you would as scum, in my opinion. But maybe that's what you want me to think? Hence the WIFOM. OR! Maybe you're so unconcerned about the issue that you haven't changed your playstyle at all. This, in hindsight, seems the most likely option. You probably also think I should stop posting :/ | ||
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On September 07 2012 01:59 Ange777 wrote: I'm kind of hung up on this: You pointed it out earlier and I haven't seen a direct reply from Risen. Why would you say that as scum marv would appear to bus you? From town Risen's perspective scum marv would be happy to pile up more evidence on a Risen mislynch. Ange I think you're wrong in the bolded section. Marvel is sneaky as fuck. | ||
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1) Keirathi should know discussion is the most important thing to get started on. Most games it comes in the form of setup discussion or a bad case. What other kind of case is there so early on in the day? You find something particularly disturbing in someone's initial post, and then you pressure them on it. Their response to said pressure, and the thread's response can be especially telling. Like calling someone out for getting discussion started. Then making inane points about how they're giving their "scum read" ways out. 2) I'm giving a potential towny a way to come back. Guess what all scum have as a weakness, and inability to truly hunt scum, because they're just outing their teammates at that point. What does this force scum to do? Kind of like trying to force my lack of pressure on someone, who could just as easily be town as scum, as a sign of being scum. Lack of pressuring someone isn't a sign of being scum, it's a smokescreen used to give the appearance of scumhunting. 3)Not remembering a game I played with Marv where we were on different teams (note the I think in what you're calling me out on) is not a scumtell, nor is it misrepresentation of fact. I already answered where marv could potentially be bussing me, and trying to paint the use of bus instead of wagon as a scumtell is a sign of someone trying to push something that just isn't there. ##unvote ##vote Keirathi So maybe getting the game rolling wasn't such a bad idea  Prplhz THIS is how you respond to someone who has made a case on you if you genuinely think they're scum. Don't use OMGUS unless you're trying to convey that they wouldn't usually be this horrible, but are using being bad as a screen. | ||
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On September 07 2012 02:16 Keirathi wrote: But you would have to be scum with marv for him to "bus" you. If he's scum and you're town, he could be starting a wagon on you. However, bus and wagon are the same thing from town's PoV. They're only discernible to scum. I'll respond to this for the sake of answering for other people. 1) Assume marv is scum 2) Assume he wants you all to think I'm scum 3) he's therefor trying to make it appear as a bus. | ||
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How has no one noted this part of his first post? On September 06 2012 05:48 prplhz wrote: hello everybody should write something then i'll read it tomorrow evening and tell you who is scum also can anybody explain to me who ange777 is? thanks Giving himself a reason to be out of the thread for almost 24 hours? Then when I pressure him he is suddenly very active in the thread? Combine that with his posting after being pressured and I am leaning scum on him. I'm leaning more scum on you, though. | ||
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On September 07 2012 03:29 Keirathi wrote: Also, for that matter, you repeatedly said "prplhz is scum". Except you never actually tried to convince anyone of it. You just kept repeating it ad nauseum, then when people started calling you out on it, you backtracked into saying "I never really thought he was scum anyways". There's no townie motivation for that. Period. Except that whole starting discussion thing. And the fact that I still find prplhz scummy. My backtrack is nonexistent you just keep saying that over and over b/c you have no real point. I also find you more scummy than prplhz, my vote is where it should be. | ||
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On September 07 2012 03:41 Keirathi wrote: Your backtrack is nonexistant? I fucking quoted it in my case against you, but here, I'll do it again. Now you're just blatantly lying. "I NEVER ACTUALLY THOUGHT HE WAS SCUM". But you said he was scum like 6 times before you said that quote. Can any townie possibly be this dumb? I mean, I know you have your pants-on-head retarded moments (Hint: your cop claim in Not Themed), but THIS dumb? Why are you trying to take me out of context? I didn't actually think he was scum from his first post. I don't know who scum is, there's only varying levels of how scummy I think someone is being. Prpl's responses make him seem more and more scum, but even were he to be lynched and flip town I wouldn't be surprised. Just like if you get lynched and flip town I won't be surprised. It's day 1. Why are you trying to force things into he thinks this person is 100% scum or 100% town. That isn't how it works. You're looking very much like scum on his back foot trying to muddy up the waters so I'm not sure if I should just stop responding to you. On September 07 2012 03:44 Dirkzor wrote: First of. Can we stop using all those damn abbreviations... They only confuse the leaving shit out of me because I rarely use them myself. I'm still not 100% sure what WIFOM means... If you think someone suck you write "oh my god you suck". Thanks I don't put much stock in prplhz's first post. If you read the entire sentence its clear its sarcasm. I'll read the thread and tell you who is scum. That is impossible (or stupid if he is scum) to know who is scum and thus the sentence is clearly sarcasm. Also he have been here and active beyond just defending himself. I still think you have done scummy things Risen. That or blatantly stupid moves as a townie. You CLEARLY changed your view on prplhz from "He is scum. I'm 65% sure" to "I never actually thought he was scum". Same goes with your "You called me scum *here*" "Oh that was after my post? Then you called me scum *there*!" I actually don't like keirathi all that much either at the moment... But that should and shall not change my view on your level of scummyness, Risen. This is such a scummy post. Why are you and Keirathi so intent on taking what I say and twisting it? Scum brothers defending each other? Note the bold. "Oh I'm suspicious of him (if Keir flips scum you have something to point to) but I'm not voting him. I'm also not going to state exactly why I find him scummy." Also, just brushing off prpl's entire first post as sarcasm? What? Why not do the same for me. Every one of my posts has been sarcastic. What a joke. On September 07 2012 04:06 Ange777 wrote: Ok, guess I have to assume Risen is just misusing the term bussing. @Risen: The more you post the less I am convinced of town motivation for your play. @Dirkzor: What exactly is it in Keir's play that you don't like? You sound like Marvel. | ||
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The whole line. "I never actually thought he was scum, he was just the scummiest guy in a thread of like 3 posters so he got the ball rolling." I think it's pretty clear that by saying, "When I made my first post prpl was the scummiest guy in thread. I didn't actually think he was scum, but as he sounded scummiest it seemed best to choose him as the target of my pressure." | ||
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On September 07 2012 04:09 Ange777 wrote: What feels wrong? The case on Risen? Or Risen's defense? Since he unvoted me I'm guessing the case on me combined with Dirk's jumping on me. | ||
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