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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 15 2012 22:02 GMT
#2292
lol this is madness now :D
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 15 2012 22:18 GMT
#2304
ugh...why did I counterclaim again? >_>

This is really iffy now, voting shady for now and heading back to sleep...

##vote: Shady Sands
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 16 2012 01:12 GMT
#2306
oh, in case it mattered toad did shoot gravan, so all kp are accounted for.
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 17 2012 08:18 GMT
#2320
hey shady mind popping into the thread instead of blogging away? IF you are town (quite a huge stretch now imo) you should be here sharing reads and stuff or trying to convince us otherwise, right now you are like mattchew when his fakeclaim got snuffed out.

@Darthpunk:
What are your thoughts right now?
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 17 2012 13:35 GMT
#2330
I actually am starting to get a little paranoid about this lynch. Objectively Shady does look like the best lynch imo, but the lack of resistance to it got me worried >_> (unless we count rewok's silent objection)
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 17 2012 13:47 GMT
#2332
Speaking as of right now out of gut feeling a lynch on rewok would be okay as well. Would have to do a throrough reread on other candidates to consider them.
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 17 2012 14:11 GMT
#2334
ugh thread is as dead as it can get >_>

anyone else here NOT from East Asia/Australia?
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 17 2012 14:41 GMT
#2339
I'll be heading to sleep now too, but will probably miss deadline like always
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 18 2012 16:17 GMT
#2381
First off sorry for being absent until now, I just had a really busy day and just got to catching up with the thread....

Looks like I should have let paranoia get the best of me >_>
gg shady, screw your busy schedule :D

I am going to give out all my reads, because I am most likely dead after the night.
We have these players left
grush
BM
Darthpunk
imallinson
hopeless
kreb
ShiaoPi
(yeah I am confirmed to myself )




Let's take a closer look:
First off we got the trolly unreadable duo of Grush/BM: I have played several games with grush but I still have no fucking clue how to read him, had him once as townie once as scum and was both times wrong....
Considering BM I also do not have a clue, although he does not read really properly he still seems to kind of give a shit, so yep null on him too >_> They could both be very well scum but there is nothing definite....

Next up, DarthPunk:
He is most probably town, his willingness to stay up late (I feel for you too my timezone-plagued brethren), eagerness to discuss things and the general feel he gives out of his posts, what bothers me a bit is the lack of activity lately but I am willing to give him the BOTD in regards to his private life etc.. Another kind of worrying thing is how he buddied up to me after I claimed, also he has been on easy targets (ottox, Gravan, rewok) and his recent attempts to get Kreb lynched do not sit well with me, but generally said I see a low probability of him being scum, if he is indeed red, then congratulations, you fooled me.

Imallinson:
He could very well be scum. I am having a null read leaning scum on him at the moment. First off, noticed something? Yeah he completely vanished after dropping the vote on shady, never posted since then again. Also as I checked through his filter, there is not much of meaningful contribution, the only "case" he did was on Gravan who flipped green. He has also generally been a non-factor in this game, flying perfectly under the radar as people focused on other "lurkers" instead of pursuing him. The only thing which keeps me back from having a clear scumread on him is the fact that he slightly bussed mattchew, although that is kind of a weak indicator seeing how his whole fakeclaim played out and that he was on the giant switch onto SnB. What is notable though on his vote on SnB is that he did not hammer him, so it could have been a bus anyway.

Hopeless:
Hopeless is ridiculously similar to Imallinson. He is also a non-factor in this game so far (besides the SnB lynch, more on that later). Take a look at his filter, its short anyway. He starts off with a soft defense of Mattchew, while accusing Forumite at the same time. After palmar pretty much kills matt he jumps on the wagon like everybody else. He then gets targeted N1 and defends himself extensively, but continues to go after Forumite. Come D2 though he apparently "forgets" about Forumite and joins the bandwagon on BKE. As soon as Forumite is back on the chopping block he tunnels him to no end, continuously pushing him. He then proceeds to sheep SnB's case on mav before switching it up 3 minutes to deadline without any comment on why or how he came to the conclusion that the person he sheeped was scum in the end. This looks like an incredibly easy bus to me. He had been a non-factor this game so far, occasionaly being thrown into shit as part of the lurker brigade but then he hammers a scum in a last minute switch, easy as pie to get town cred until the end of the game. He is actually my strongest read at the moment, so please please lynch him!
Also look at the rest of his posts, there is like ZERO content besides the case on Forumite. Hopeless cruised by until now (he has been gone from the thread just as imallinson), time to poke him until he dies.

Kreb:
He replaced in for Milton who had been lurking pretty hard. Even as replacement he got a bigger filter than hopeless and I have a townread on him. His actions so far seemed pretty townie to me, he has been contributive, sharing his reads and thoughts and been an active part of town so far. The effort he put into pressuring toad is also remarkable, just compare his filter with hopeless' and imallinsons its ridiculous how a replacement is that much more of a factor in the game than two people from the very beginning.




Summary:

Look at my list, I want to lynch into one of these two Imallinson, Hopeless1der, priority on Hopeless1der since I am much more certain on him. Also I'll be tracking one of those two, have fun wifoming Mafia, if you let me survive.
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 18 2012 16:23 GMT
#2382
ebwop:
If the last scum are in BM/grush I am so gonna call for fucking policy lynches on them like every single game I play with them -.-

off to bed now, nobody in here anyway I guess
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 18 2012 23:59 GMT
#2394
okay, fuck my reads for now, woke up saw the flips and will now be going to uni.
As I got no notice from the hosts I probably got Roleblocked, so no results either, will be back later or via phone for some thoughts
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 19 2012 04:31 GMT
#2398
posting on the phone right now
@allinson: since you seem to be around now, who do you want to lynch?
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 19 2012 04:37 GMT
#2399
ebwop:
everyone else should come into the thread as well....its lylo guys
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 19 2012 04:43 GMT
#2400
On September 19 2012 05:04 grush57 wrote:
Dang he went to bed, we would of both been confirmed town.


I'm tracker read the damn thread >_>
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 19 2012 04:47 GMT
#2404
what makes you so sure on allinson? when he switched it was still going to be a lynch on gravan. we now know hopeless was green. allinson could have switched without anticipating another switch so shortly before deafline
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 19 2012 04:50 GMT
#2405
also grush looks more like his towntroll-version, imo. bm would be worth a consideration but i feel better about allinson right now. cant do more heavy analysis since i am on my phone in class atm
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 19 2012 05:00 GMT
#2406
DP talk to meeee..... only us in here right now anyway
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 19 2012 05:05 GMT
#2410
On September 19 2012 14:02 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 13:50 ShiaoPi wrote:
also grush looks more like his towntroll-version, imo. bm would be worth a consideration but i feel better about allinson right now. cant do more heavy analysis since i am on my phone in class atm


I explained in my Post. I am happy with A BM Lynch also. I really don't see how you could be convinced that grush is town if you read his filter. If Allison is scum Then BM must be scum. Because I doubt scum Grush would bus allison at this point. If grush is scum BM is scum. If Allison is scum BM is scum. either way BM IS SCUM. I still think grush and BM are it though.

its based on meta. hard to explain, but he does not feel like th TLVI in which he was scum.
why does BM has to be scum if allinson is? Where do you see the connection? or just elimination?
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 19 2012 05:35 GMT
#2413
I'll be posting again later. Just for the record I'd rather lynch allinson today. out for now
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 19 2012 08:22 GMT
#2416
Okay I am pretty sure that the scumteam is Imallinson and Darthpunk.




Why?

First off imallinson:

All the things I pointed out in the night are still valid. Seeing Hopeless' flip actually strengthens the suspicion that I had about Imallinson switching to look "good" after a Gravan mislynch. As Hopeless was town he simply did not anticipate him switching 3 minutes prior to deadline. Imallinson switched 6 minutes prior to deadline, as hopeless was not posting during the time, I say that it was a pretty safe bet to have "bussed" SnB without the need to flip him, with a consequential gravan mislynch. As we know now, Hopeless messed that up. Imallinsons defense:

On September 19 2012 03:28 imallinson wrote:
I've been real busy with uni work which is why I've been a bit absent recently. I don't understand Shiao's reads. I don't see how the two last people to join the lynch on SnB are scum. If we were why the hell would we bus our team mate when the vote was 6 on Gravan and 4 on SnB. We could have easily just left it as it was and got a mislynch. Kreb's reads seem much more plausible as both BM and Grush have seemed really anti town all game and could see one or both of them being scum.


is only valid if Hopeless would have been red. He flipped green and now it gets even more obvious that imallinsons voteswitch was not consequential if Hopeless had not hammered SnB last minute. Since the daypost imallinson has not been to the thread again, I say he is scum. Hopefully (troll)town is willing to go along with me on this vote.

##vote: Imallinson


On to Darthpunk:

I know I had him pegged as town the night before, but him wanting to lynch into BM/grush which is basically a coinflip is pretty damning in my eyes, also add the things I listed the night prior with buddying (it happened in this day-phase again) and the weird accusations thrown at Kreb. Obviously part of my read hinges on the fact that we I am connecting DP with Imallinson. There is also another interesting thing about the interactions between the two. Starting this day DP started to address imallinson as "she" (I have no clue about imallinsons gender) but nowhere in the thread did imallinson said that "she" was a girl and wanted to be adressed as such. That only leaves the option that they must have been communicating in private----> read ScumQT!
Also his posts today have been pretty defending towards imallinson, while I continued to add pressure on him/her. Why? He even says that imallinsons filter is:

On September 19 2012 13:43 DarthPunk wrote:

- Grush shoved Me and allison into a scum team. I am not scum. And both Gravan and BM have pushed for me to be lynched. If gravan Is pushing allison as the other scum then it is likely she is town.

- I looked over her filter. Standard lurker fare. HOWEVER. She switched onto S&B when votes were 6-4 causing them to be 5-5 If she had not switched. S&B would not have been lynched. It is apparent to me that the sudden shift onto S&B was so swift that it took BM and Grush By surprise. I don't not think he was bussed. Therefore Imallison is TOWN.



Note that his first argument is firstly not really an argument as we have to take his sentence about his alignment at facevalue, but also why is it likely for imallinson to be town if she was pushed by gravan? Gravan flipped green.....It makes no fucking sense at all. I already invalidated the SnB switch argument which would be in favor of a green imallinson, so how can someone with "standard lurker fare" be a townread?




Yeah, if my trolly town-friends are willing to follow my reads we got this in the bag.

Lynch imallinson today, lynch Darthpunk tomorrow and we won. GG!

it also kind of happened as process of elimination. I'm not scum, I don't think that grush is scum right now. BM I am unsure of but I am pretty sure on imallinson and when he/she flips red DP is red as well.

Gogo my troll-friends! Put down those votes!
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