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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 19 2012 11:43 GMT
#2421
Yep, I am "giving them a freeride" because I think they are townier than allinson.
If one of them is scum I will try to policy lynch them every future game, but for now I am willing to hedge my bets on scumteam of imallinson/you
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 19 2012 11:44 GMT
#2422
If gravan had been mislynched, imallinson would have looked much better than all of us who were on Gravan, easily could have swayed town to lynch either SnB the next day, which would give imallinson even more town cred, or lynch one of the bandwagoners on gravan
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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 19 2012 11:44 GMT
#2423
On September 19 2012 20:34 imallinson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 17:22 ShiaoPi wrote:
Okay I am pretty sure that the scumteam is Imallinson and Darthpunk.




Why?

First off imallinson:

All the things I pointed out in the night are still valid. Seeing Hopeless' flip actually strengthens the suspicion that I had about Imallinson switching to look "good" after a Gravan mislynch. As Hopeless was town he simply did not anticipate him switching 3 minutes prior to deadline. Imallinson switched 6 minutes prior to deadline, as hopeless was not posting during the time, I say that it was a pretty safe bet to have "bussed" SnB without the need to flip him, with a consequential gravan mislynch. As we know now, Hopeless messed that up. Imallinsons defense:

On September 19 2012 03:28 imallinson wrote:
I've been real busy with uni work which is why I've been a bit absent recently. I don't understand Shiao's reads. I don't see how the two last people to join the lynch on SnB are scum. If we were why the hell would we bus our team mate when the vote was 6 on Gravan and 4 on SnB. We could have easily just left it as it was and got a mislynch. Kreb's reads seem much more plausible as both BM and Grush have seemed really anti town all game and could see one or both of them being scum.


is only valid if Hopeless would have been red. He flipped green and now it gets even more obvious that imallinsons voteswitch was not consequential if Hopeless had not hammered SnB last minute. Since the daypost imallinson has not been to the thread again, I say he is scum. Hopefully (troll)town is willing to go along with me on this vote.

##vote: Imallinson

If anything I'd say Hopeless being killed makes me look more town. Why, if I was scum, would I base my defence on someone who I know is going to die and who's dying makes me look really bad. I haven't been here since the day post due to trying to sleep/a bit of actually sleeping/waking up feeling like shit. If you look at my previous posting I've always either posted something quick if I had a strong read after the day post or nothing at all. As for the supposed bus of SnB it would make no sense from a scum perspective. Although I wouldn't know hopeless was around I knew Gravan was and if I was scum would have known he was town and would have switched his vote. As for who I think is scum I think Grush and BM look like a really obvious scum team. Your reason for for not thinking that is meta based and we've already had a terrible mislynch based on meta so I'm reluctant to go on that again. Both Grush and BM have been very anti town all game. You I see as definitely town because there is no reason for you to fake claim when you did. Darth is possibly scum but has generally played pro town so I'm much less sure about it than Grush or BM.
##Vote: Grush


Cool.

##unvote

##VOTE BILL MURRAY.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 19 2012 11:49 GMT
#2424
DP thanks for claiming scum, splitting up towns (assuming you are town) votes at lylo makes no fucking sense from a town perspective since we need every vote of town on a single candidate to avoid a loss.
Nice outing as scumpartner of imallinson.

You said you are fine with lynching either grush or BM, your supposedly null-read votes one of your candidates and you change to the other? It would only make sense if you thought imallinson to be scum, but then you should vote with the confirmed townie (hint: me) onto imallinson...

I am pretty sure now:
Imallinson/Darthpunk are our scumteam!
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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 19 2012 11:51 GMT
#2425
On September 19 2012 20:44 ShiaoPi wrote:
If gravan had been mislynched, imallinson would have looked much better than all of us who were on Gravan, easily could have swayed town to lynch either SnB the next day, which would give imallinson even more town cred, or lynch one of the bandwagoners on gravan


Right. Except she swung 2 votes with her switch and Pretty much secured S&B's lynch. So not right at all. The case you make is based on stretching things into the realm of implausibility because you are gambling on BM and Grush being town. That is what every single assumption you are making points towards. And your case on allison is based on a blatant misinterpretation of me. And viewing me as scum soft defending her. But I am town. So everything you said is wrong. And I don't see you make a case that is not based on association with me. WHICH IS WHAT I ASKED FOR WHEN I SAID I WOULD DEFIANTLY VOTE FOR ALLISON IF THERE WAS A CASE. I don't see how on earth you could be so fucking stupid to be honest. BM EVEN SEES PEOPLE WHO THINK HE IS TOWN AS SCUMMY. Jesus Christ. I wish Scum had not killed every other rational human being in this game.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 19 2012 11:52 GMT
#2426
On September 19 2012 20:34 imallinson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 17:22 ShiaoPi wrote:
Okay I am pretty sure that the scumteam is Imallinson and Darthpunk.




Why?

First off imallinson:

All the things I pointed out in the night are still valid. Seeing Hopeless' flip actually strengthens the suspicion that I had about Imallinson switching to look "good" after a Gravan mislynch. As Hopeless was town he simply did not anticipate him switching 3 minutes prior to deadline. Imallinson switched 6 minutes prior to deadline, as hopeless was not posting during the time, I say that it was a pretty safe bet to have "bussed" SnB without the need to flip him, with a consequential gravan mislynch. As we know now, Hopeless messed that up. Imallinsons defense:

On September 19 2012 03:28 imallinson wrote:
I've been real busy with uni work which is why I've been a bit absent recently. I don't understand Shiao's reads. I don't see how the two last people to join the lynch on SnB are scum. If we were why the hell would we bus our team mate when the vote was 6 on Gravan and 4 on SnB. We could have easily just left it as it was and got a mislynch. Kreb's reads seem much more plausible as both BM and Grush have seemed really anti town all game and could see one or both of them being scum.


is only valid if Hopeless would have been red. He flipped green and now it gets even more obvious that imallinsons voteswitch was not consequential if Hopeless had not hammered SnB last minute. Since the daypost imallinson has not been to the thread again, I say he is scum. Hopefully (troll)town is willing to go along with me on this vote.

##vote: Imallinson

If anything I'd say Hopeless being killed makes me look more town. Why, if I was scum, would I base my defence on someone who I know is going to die and who's dying makes me look really bad. I haven't been here since the day post due to trying to sleep/a bit of actually sleeping/waking up feeling like shit. If you look at my previous posting I've always either posted something quick if I had a strong read after the day post or nothing at all. As for the supposed bus of SnB it would make no sense from a scum perspective. Although I wouldn't know hopeless was around I knew Gravan was and if I was scum would have known he was town and would have switched his vote. As for who I think is scum I think Grush and BM look like a really obvious scum team. Your reason for for not thinking that is meta based and we've already had a terrible mislynch based on meta so I'm reluctant to go on that again. Both Grush and BM have been very anti town all game. You I see as definitely town because there is no reason for you to fake claim when you did. Darth is possibly scum but has generally played pro town so I'm much less sure about it than Grush or BM.
##Vote: Grush


Yes, I employed WIFOM in my read on you, but I believe more into my version of events than yours!
Furthermore of note if you have me as secure townread, you know we are at lylo and you know I won't vote Grush based from my posts, why wouldn't you vote Darthpunk instead? You are doing the same as DP, splitting up towns (as if you are townie ) votes.
geeeeeeet him!!!
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 19 2012 11:53 GMT
#2427
I'm done talking with you two scummy bastards! I'm more into my resident trolls by now.
As long as they vote with me, I don't care how much you two squirm
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
imallinson
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3482 Posts
September 19 2012 12:03 GMT
#2428
On September 19 2012 20:44 ShiaoPi wrote:
If gravan had been mislynched, imallinson would have looked much better than all of us who were on Gravan, easily could have swayed town to lynch either SnB the next day, which would give imallinson even more town cred, or lynch one of the bandwagoners on gravan

So your reason for me being scum is that I keep deliberately making myself look more scummy. How is that a reason for being scum? That behaviour makes no sense as town or scum. Thus we are left with me flipping from Gravan to SnB for another reason i.e. me thinking the case was better on SnB which is a town motivated play.
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imallinson
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3482 Posts
September 19 2012 12:06 GMT
#2429
On September 19 2012 20:52 ShiaoPi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 20:34 imallinson wrote:
On September 19 2012 17:22 ShiaoPi wrote:
Okay I am pretty sure that the scumteam is Imallinson and Darthpunk.




Why?

First off imallinson:

All the things I pointed out in the night are still valid. Seeing Hopeless' flip actually strengthens the suspicion that I had about Imallinson switching to look "good" after a Gravan mislynch. As Hopeless was town he simply did not anticipate him switching 3 minutes prior to deadline. Imallinson switched 6 minutes prior to deadline, as hopeless was not posting during the time, I say that it was a pretty safe bet to have "bussed" SnB without the need to flip him, with a consequential gravan mislynch. As we know now, Hopeless messed that up. Imallinsons defense:

On September 19 2012 03:28 imallinson wrote:
I've been real busy with uni work which is why I've been a bit absent recently. I don't understand Shiao's reads. I don't see how the two last people to join the lynch on SnB are scum. If we were why the hell would we bus our team mate when the vote was 6 on Gravan and 4 on SnB. We could have easily just left it as it was and got a mislynch. Kreb's reads seem much more plausible as both BM and Grush have seemed really anti town all game and could see one or both of them being scum.


is only valid if Hopeless would have been red. He flipped green and now it gets even more obvious that imallinsons voteswitch was not consequential if Hopeless had not hammered SnB last minute. Since the daypost imallinson has not been to the thread again, I say he is scum. Hopefully (troll)town is willing to go along with me on this vote.

##vote: Imallinson

If anything I'd say Hopeless being killed makes me look more town. Why, if I was scum, would I base my defence on someone who I know is going to die and who's dying makes me look really bad. I haven't been here since the day post due to trying to sleep/a bit of actually sleeping/waking up feeling like shit. If you look at my previous posting I've always either posted something quick if I had a strong read after the day post or nothing at all. As for the supposed bus of SnB it would make no sense from a scum perspective. Although I wouldn't know hopeless was around I knew Gravan was and if I was scum would have known he was town and would have switched his vote. As for who I think is scum I think Grush and BM look like a really obvious scum team. Your reason for for not thinking that is meta based and we've already had a terrible mislynch based on meta so I'm reluctant to go on that again. Both Grush and BM have been very anti town all game. You I see as definitely town because there is no reason for you to fake claim when you did. Darth is possibly scum but has generally played pro town so I'm much less sure about it than Grush or BM.
##Vote: Grush


Yes, I employed WIFOM in my read on you, but I believe more into my version of events than yours!
Furthermore of note if you have me as secure townread, you know we are at lylo and you know I won't vote Grush based from my posts, why wouldn't you vote Darthpunk instead? You are doing the same as DP, splitting up towns (as if you are townie ) votes.
geeeeeeet him!!!

Because we still have a day and a half to go. Because I think Grush is a lot scummier than DP. Because I still think you can be persuaded. But since you've decided talking for the rest of the day is a waste of time I guess that was stupid of me.
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 19 2012 12:07 GMT
#2430
Imallinson, there is really no point in discussing it anymore, I want to lynch you this cycle, I gave more than enough explanations. you are scum, so why should I even bother talking to you, I won't convince you of your own red alignment anyway. I'm just waiting for grush and BM to pop into the thread now.
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 19 2012 12:08 GMT
#2431
ebwop:
yeah that was "stupid" of you
I am like deadset that it has to be you this cylce.
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
imallinson
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3482 Posts
September 19 2012 12:10 GMT
#2432
On September 19 2012 21:08 ShiaoPi wrote:
ebwop:
yeah that was "stupid" of you
I am like deadset that it has to be you this cylce.

Your entire reason for being "deadset" on me is me making mistakes. Mistakes that makes a lot more sense if I was town than scum.
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 19 2012 12:12 GMT
#2433
Stupidity/mistakes are not exclusive to town, why should they be?
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 19 2012 12:16 GMT
#2434
On September 19 2012 20:49 ShiaoPi wrote:
DP thanks for claiming scum, splitting up towns (assuming you are town) votes at lylo makes no fucking sense from a town perspective since we need every vote of town on a single candidate to avoid a loss.
Nice outing as scumpartner of imallinson.

You said you are fine with lynching either grush or BM, your supposedly null-read votes one of your candidates and you change to the other? It would only make sense if you thought imallinson to be scum, but then you should vote with the confirmed townie (hint: me) onto imallinson...

I am pretty sure now:
Imallinson/Darthpunk are our scumteam!


We have a day left. This shit isn't final. Read my possible scum teams. Read were I said I would prefer to lynch BM countless times. Read were I said that it was either allison/BM or grush BM.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 19 2012 12:19 GMT
#2435
this shit is as good as final, we either lynch imallinson today are we lose from my perspective. I read your scum teams, and I gave you my answer that I feel that grush is town this game and therefore with my nullish tell on BM its onto imallinson. Nothing will change my mind! But good try DP, try to cook up something new with allinson in the Scumqt :D
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 19 2012 12:21 GMT
#2436
Shiao. You May be right on Allison but you are wrong on me. And I am going to rub it in your face post game buddy. I am also done with the thread for tonight.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 19 2012 12:21 GMT
#2437
If I am right on allinson how about voting with me?
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 19 2012 12:25 GMT
#2438
On September 19 2012 21:21 ShiaoPi wrote:
If I am right on allinson how about voting with me?


I said I would if you provided a case. before all this shit happened. Your case is based on me being scum. I am not. Provide me something to go off that does not contain something I know to be incorrect. (me being scum) and I will consider it on it's merits. I told you this before. You have gone pants on head my friend.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 19 2012 12:26 GMT
#2439
EBWOP: I said you may be right. And quit with the passive aggressive emoticons please. Pet peeve. People do that on League of legends.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
imallinson
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3482 Posts
September 19 2012 12:30 GMT
#2440
On September 19 2012 21:19 ShiaoPi wrote:
this shit is as good as final, we either lynch imallinson today are we lose from my perspective. I read your scum teams, and I gave you my answer that I feel that grush is town this game and therefore with my nullish tell on BM its onto imallinson. Nothing will change my mind! But good try DP, try to cook up something new with allinson in the Scumqt :D

The fact that you are so sure of this based on barely anything is really making me question the fact that you are town.
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