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Blazinghand
United States25559 Posts
On August 29 2012 08:27 Lvdr wrote:
Thrawn was on the WeeTee Wagon, not good play.
Not gonna lie, the quality of town play in this game was pretty low... we had D1 roleclaims, horrible D1 lynch, people mia at D1 lynch, etc. At one point I would have called about half the town scummy.
Also, Shady why aren't you accusing me of googling the scum QT thread?
Let's keep it clean gents
Also, the problem, the main problem with the D1 lynch was that there was no consolidation. 2 hours from the lynch deadline everyone was on different wagons. This is the easiest way to 100% gaurantee that townie gets lynched. Consolidate starting halfway through the day.
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Also, who was the cop? I'm pretty sure there should have been a cop if there was a mafia rb and a jailor.
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Blazinghand
United States25559 Posts
I was the cop. I checked Shady N1 and got Royal Jelly.
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I was Third Party Planar Peanut Butter.
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Does that mean there was no cop? From how i read the setup, it seemed like if there was a mafia RB then there would be a cop.
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obs qt?
Everyone go over to Newbie 26.
I'm glad town won but honestly it felt very anticlimatic. I sorta expected something like this because of the two scum setup. I was secretly hoping that dandel would go green just because it would make for a longer and more interesting game.
Dandel after D1 I was still not sure that you'd be a good lynch. What changed that was your posts during N1. Gobalt did a similar thing at the end of the last newbie game... you say "I don't have time for this and idc about the game anymore" but then you say you still aren't going to quit. That absolutely sounds like a scum who's given up but still thins they can win. Then I pressured you to quite, and you said you would do so. But then during D2 all of the sudden you still haven't dropped out and are making a case againt lvdr but say you aren't going to post again? It looked exactly similar to gobalt's tactics during nmmxxiv and it was really the only good reason I had for thinking you were scum.
Lvdr: When you first brought up your case against dandel I actually agreed with it. But then dandel pointed out that you had lied about him being extremely experienced, and I began to think about all the other mistakes and lies you had made throughout the game. Like in almost every one of your cases there was a blatant misrepresentation or factual error and it was hard to ignore those.
mkfuba: I thought if dandel flipped green then you were probably scum. I guess I just don't like your hesitant playstyle. The way you responded after me making a case against you convinced me you were town. You defended my accusations and then made a good case against shady, that seemed to be a very townie thing to do.
weetee: dude you gave me every reason possible to vote for you. wth wouldn't you answer my simple question about lvdr?
kush: you should leave emotion out of your posts. you gonna play in newbie 26?
alsn: sorry you had to go you seemed smart from the posts you were able to give. lol I was actually expecting myself to be the NK
spag: at one point I thought you might be scum but it was your huge ass posts during D1 that convinced me otherwise
shady: bro wtf. Right when i was finally willing to consider that you weren't town the whole thing between you and lvdr happened and I was convinced that you two truly were just townies pissed at each other. So good acting/trolling/whatever
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everyone get your asses over to XXVI
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I also nominate lvdr is mvp actually. He was right about BOTH scum.
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On August 29 2012 09:04 thrawn2112 wrote:
obs qt?
Everyone go over to Newbie 26.
I'm glad town won but honestly it felt very anticlimatic. I sorta expected something like this because of the two scum setup. I was secretly hoping that dandel would go green just because it would make for a longer and more interesting game.
Dandel after D1 I was still not sure that you'd be a good lynch. What changed that was your posts during N1. Gobalt did a similar thing at the end of the last newbie game... you say "I don't have time for this and idc about the game anymore" but then you say you still aren't going to quit. That absolutely sounds like a scum who's given up but still thins they can win. Then I pressured you to quite, and you said you would do so. But then during D2 all of the sudden you still haven't dropped out and are making a case againt lvdr but say you aren't going to post again? It looked exactly similar to gobalt's tactics during nmmxxiv and it was really the only good reason I had for thinking you were scum.
Lvdr: When you first brought up your case against dandel I actually agreed with it. But then dandel pointed out that you had lied about him being extremely experienced, and I began to think about all the other mistakes and lies you had made throughout the game. Like in almost every one of your cases there was a blatant misrepresentation or factual error and it was hard to ignore those.
mkfuba: I thought if dandel flipped green then you were probably scum. I guess I just don't like your hesitant playstyle. The way you responded after me making a case against you convinced me you were town. You defended my accusations and then made a good case against shady, that seemed to be a very townie thing to do.
weetee: dude you gave me every reason possible to vote for you. wth wouldn't you answer my simple question about lvdr?
kush: you should leave emotion out of your posts. you gonna play in newbie 26?
alsn: sorry you had to go you seemed smart from the posts you were able to give. lol I was actually expecting myself to be the NK
spag: at one point I thought you might be scum but it was your huge ass posts during D1 that convinced me otherwise
shady: bro wtf. Right when i was finally willing to consider that you weren't town the whole thing between you and lvdr happened and I was convinced that you two truly were just townies pissed at each other. So good acting/trolling/whatever
No I knew I was dead. No point replacing somebody in, in that situation imo.
For the record, I did still officially ask for a replacement, because in the off chance I was NOT lynched day 2, I'd still have needed a replacement.
I'm kinda mad about how day 1 happened, btw. Everyone jumps me for "lurking" when I specifically said that I was gonna be absent for a large part of the day, and then everybody ignores how Lvdr's 'case' is just a bunch of lies and bullshit.
I don't understand it.
I'm also pretty certain my posts would have been almost exactly the same if I was town - the only real difference is that I wouldn't have gotten a replacement, and instead asked for a modkill (aka, just not voting). Since that'd be better for town in that situation, no day wasted on the lynch and all.
My activity wouldn't have changed, work is still a shit, GW2 is still out, and I would have been mad enough at town/lvdr for being morons (imo) to not post.
But yeah, this game was over with the day 1 lynch. In hindsight, I should've yelled at Shady in all caps to bus me instantly, but I still thought the situation salvagable.
I did not expect people to buy Lvdr's case, ever. Serious overestimation on my part.
Also, I'm sorry for screwing Shady over. He was playing pretty well.
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my reasoning was that if you were town you would have still tried to scumhunt even if you knew you were going to die
something just didn't seem right
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On August 29 2012 10:10 thrawn2112 wrote:
my reasoning was that if you were town you would have still tried to scumhunt even if you knew you were going to die
something just didn't seem right
I know myself very well, and I wouldn't have.
Because fuck that.
Also, I am/was a serious GW addict and I need my fix.
I know what it'd look like, but I promise you I wouldn't have done shit anymore. I would've thought "this town can lose for all I care".
Not saying that that's ALWAYS what I'd do, but if I have ~2 hours of free time a day at max, I'd rather spend it with something fun, instead of answering lvdr and getting ignored, just so he can make random shit up a few hours later.
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Blazinghand
United States25559 Posts
I'm kinda mad about how day 1 happened, btw. Everyone jumps me for "lurking" when I specifically said that I was gonna be absent for a large part of the day,
Stating you have IRL problems is something I specifically ignore in Mafia. It's meaningless. It does nothing to prove anything. I almost consider it cheating, it's just really bad form and personally I think it's worthless. Any time someone says something like that I just mentally blank it out.
Any scum could make that up as an excuse, you know.
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If there's anything that kind of bothers me about this game, it's being told by Dandel midway through N1 that I was getting a new scum team member, then not hearing a peep about that for the next 48 hours. That really threw me for a loop as I had no way to coordinate a bus or do anything D2.
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On August 29 2012 10:32 Shady Sands wrote:
If there's anything that kind of bothers me about this game, it's being told by Dandel midway through N1 that I was getting a new scum team member, then not hearing a peep about that for the next 48 hours. That really threw me for a loop as I had no way to coordinate a bus or do anything D2.
As I said, I PM'd ghost for one.
He said something about asking somebody, and I never heard anything again. Not like it would've mattered if somebody else went to the chopping block for me.
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@ Dandel Ion:
Well it isn't so much about what you would or wouldn't do as town - it's about this game and what you should have done to keep yourself alive as mafia, no? While I didn't think you were scummy at all D1, you needed to do more to get yourself out of the lynch on D2. You could have been much more proactive in your defense and probably could have gotten Lvdr lynched if you tried harder.
This is gonna be my last post (very last, probably) because I'm not gonna be here at fliptime.
So since I'll have to vote somebody, I'll vote Lvdr. For not being able to read. And for making up shit all the damn time.
##vote Lvdr
Certainly you could do much better than the above to push a lynch, no? I actually find it hard to believe you'd post something like this as town, having played with you in XXIII.
EDIT: Oh nvm, looks like Dandel wanted to replace out. Still, can't exactly criticize the town for lynching you when you weren't availible to defend yourself.
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On August 29 2012 10:35 Hapahauli wrote:@ Dandel Ion:Well it isn't so much about what you would or wouldn't do as town - it's about this game and what you should have done to keep yourself alive as mafia, no? While I didn't think you were scummy at all D1, you needed to do more to get yourself out of the lynch on D2. You could have been much more proactive in your defense and probably could have gotten Lvdr lynched if you tried harder. Show nested quote +This is gonna be my last post (very last, probably) because I'm not gonna be here at fliptime.
So since I'll have to vote somebody, I'll vote Lvdr. For not being able to read. And for making up shit all the damn time.
##vote Lvdr Certainly you could do much better than the above to push a lynch, no? I actually find it hard to believe you'd post something like this as town, having played with you in XXIII.
I don't think I could have, realistically.
I could have thrown down a larger, better-worded post, yes. But I wouldn't have been able to do anything else, no follow-ups, nothing. I am convinced it would've never been enough to get an actual lynch off on Lvdr.
Not enough time, and it sucked. Majorly. But eh, what can you do....
€: Nvm at you too, then
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Hey guys!
What's going on in this thread?
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Well, that went a lot faster than expected, to say the least ^^
Tomorrow, I'll sit down and do the write up. I'm genuinely curious as to how exactly this happened. I mean, I expected the game to be slightly more volatile than the C9++ setup, but this is something else... Probably won't be hosting another F11 for a while.
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