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On August 27 2012 15:36 mkfuba07 wrote:
1. Shady is actually JK and that explains his powerful suspicions of kush 2. There is not a JK, so no one else is voting to support Shady's kush lynch 3. Shady tried to push a lynch on kush because he was an easy target and didn't gather enough support
or 4, I am JK and shady is town, but he mistakenly believes I am scum.
I think 4 is quite possible and shady is just unksilled at reads.
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On August 27 2012 14:37 Lvdr wrote: 4. He never referenced any IRL issues that limited his posting D1. Its not hard to say "excuse my low amount of posts, IRL issues." Replacement only came up after the lynch which makes it implausible for explaining the d1 lurkiness.
Kid, let me walk you through my filter. You're clearly not able to read it yourself. A fact that I suspected ever since you posted your "case".
Pregame: I'm-gonna-be-at-work post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=361579¤tpage=4#62
First ingame post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=361579¤tpage=5#86
As I stated before the game I'm at work right now, so I will just post my thoughts on policy for now:
more:http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=361579¤tpage=14#265
I will be gone for the next few hours too - I didn't have time to read the thread yet, so I can't really comment right now. I will be back (well) before the deadline.
Sorry "well" is in brackets because 3-4 hours might not seem like "well before" to other people. I come back and suddenly there's a case against me. And now people say "hurp durp he didn't say anything until a case was made against him." .....
The post you wanted, apologizing for not being active, that I supposedly didn't write: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=361579¤tpage=15#297
Okay, I'm here and going to post my current opinions. Sorry I was pretty busy the last days, I would have liked to be more active too. Bigger post coming soon(tm)
And as I said, I think it'd be redundant to get me replaced, since the replacement will get lynched within ~10 hours now. But other people seemed to want me to try. Don't know why they did.
This is gonna be my last post (very last, probably) because I'm not gonna be here at fliptime. So since I'll have to vote somebody, I'll vote Lvdr. For not being able to read. And for making up shit all the damn time. ##vote Lvdr
Pz out.
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@Kush But such a conversation could be entirely contrived. Shady could just be covering his tracks, which is to be expected in this scenario of any scum. I am glad you will still vote Dandel, though I'd prefer it if you actually believed what you were voting for.
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I think Dandel Ion is the best lynch, and I think many people here agree. If there is controversy over this, i will post another detailed case tomorrow, but if he's gonna get lynched either way I'd rather not. I may have other suspicions, but Dandel Ion is the one that is most likely to end up being productive.
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EBWOP: by 'being productive', I mean get actually lynched. I regret not getting him lynched yesterday.
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The thing is, even if Dandel isn't scum, there's no way he's going to be a productive member of the town. So he's a good lynch anyway because we don't have a sure thing scum to vote for. ##vote Dandel Ion
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The illustrious Toadesstern has joined as a secondary cohost.
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Sup. Caught somewhat up but still no idea about the game. Sooooo as everyone is voting I take it it's day :p But I can at least do votecounts!
Votecount so far: ( 3 ) - Dandel Ion: Lvdr, Spaghetticus, kushm4sta ( 1 ) - Shady Sands: mkfuba07, ( 1 ) - Lvdr: Dandel Ion, You have roughly 28.5 hours left until deadline. That is 21:00 GMT (+00:00). With 7 players alive it takes 4 to lynch someone. So far Shady Sands and thrawn2112 haven't voted. Please make sure to highlight your votes with a [ b]-Tag so I can see them better. If there's any mistakes in the above votecount-of-aweomse please tell me so I can patch it. I'm not perfect yet
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+1 cohosting points for Toades. Deadline is in ~28.5 hours, tomorrow at 21:00 GMT (+00:00).
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##Vote Dandel Ion The way he said he wanted to quit but wasn't going to, then was like "ok fine I'll quit," and now apparently isn't quitting reeks of scum shenanigans. Saying you don't care and want to quit but not doing so just doesn't make sense.
If he ends up flipping green I will be extremely suspicious of lvdr. The dandel lon thing was his idea in the first place and it came out of nowhere. He has been called out for inconsistencies/lies more than anyone else and although he's given a lot of reasonable town explanations for them, at some point enough is enough.
I'm not going to be posting as much as I have been due to real life things. Not gonna go into lurk mode but don't expect 24/7 posting from me anymore.
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Votecount so far: ( 4 ) - Dandel Ion: Lvdr, Spaghetticus, kushm4sta, thrawn2112, ( 1 ) - Shady Sands: mkfuba07, ( 1 ) - Lvdr: Dandel Ion, You have 20:42 hours left until deadline. Deadline is still 21:00 GMT (+00:00). With 7 players alive it takes 4 to lynch someone. So far Shady Sands, haven't / hasn't voted. Please make sure to highlight your votes with a [ b]-Tag so I can see them better. If there's any mistakes in the above votecount-of-aweomse please tell me so I can patch it. I'm not perfect yet
Yes I'm bored and besides my sheet of awesome does everything, except for grammar :p
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I've got two mod questions. Sorry if these seem newb. Also I think these may benefit the town, especially in a newbie game, so that's why I'm not just asking them in a PM.
As JK can I protect myself? How do the two mafia communicate with each other?
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JK / medics usually can't protect themselves. I haven't asked Ghost about it but I'm pretty sure you can't target yourself. Never seen something like that outside of Igrok-games and even in those only once until he realized that shit is incredible broken :p
Mafia can communicate via any means and can stick to whatever they prefere. Stuff like TL-pms, irc, skype conversations or a mix of something like that are all allowed. Not going to get more into detail about this for obvious reasons but as mentioned, pretty much everything is allowed.
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sup guys. today's been pretty boring.
I guess the recent silence means dandel is getting lynched?
Shady it's been a long time since we've heard from you. You were strongly opposed to the dandel lynch even to the point of accusing lvdr of trying to trick everyone into a mislynch. It's looking like dandel is gonna be lynched, are you still against that? Also are your top scum reads still kush and lvdr?
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If I roleblock the goon, will the hit still go through because of the roleblocker mafia?
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kush
Scum can decide which of them gets to perform the nk, so the mafia nk will go through as long as whoever does the hit isn't roleblocked.
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D2 has been very slow. Everyone has pretty much gone into lurker mode especially in the last 24 hrs. I know it's because it's pretty clear that Dandel will be lynched, but regardless of the outcome of the lynch I think we've wasted a lot of time. My advice on scumhunting after the lynch is the following:
If Dandel flips red:
If dandel flips red then attention will first need to be paid to anyone who played a part in stopping him from being lynched during D1. Look at the people who voted for WeeTee and try to figure out who was the most scummy about their WeeTee vote.
If Dandel flips green:
This will be awful because it will leave town in a horrible position (3 town/2 scum) for D3 unless a RB stops the NK. However we shouldn't be demoralized if this happens because it will give a lot of information that sheds light on possible scum tactics that went on during D1. If Dandel is green then I'm going to start by looking at the people who were in agreement with voting for either WeeTee/Dandel and try to find out who seemed to care the least which one was lynched.
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Votecount so far: ( 4 ) - Dandel Ion: Lvdr, Spaghetticus, kushm4sta, thrawn2112, ( 1 ) - Shady Sands: mkfuba07, ( 1 ) - Lvdr: Dandel Ion, You have 3:47 hours left until deadline. Deadline is still 21:00 GMT (+00:00). With 7 players alive it takes 4 to lynch someone. So far Shady Sands hasn't voted. Dandel Ion has 4 votes and is going to be lynched if nothing changes.
Just a reminder because it's only 3 and half hour left according to my information. And of course as always, if you see a mistake somewhere just tell me :p
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