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United Kingdom36161 Posts
yeah, Obvious, that's a disgusting play.
I'm not voting for Lvdr today. My original vote on him was predicated on what i thought was a promise to be controversial followed by the opposite, but I'm satisfied that was not what he intended the post to mean. As explained previously, it reads to me that Lvdr got twisted in knots with the whole town/scum VE alignment shizzle.
It's also clear at this stage that I'm not getting a Chez lynch through. With him promising for this to be his 'sane' game, he has done spectacularly little with this in terms of scumhunting. But without the support of vets who know him (VE/Palmar) it's not happening. I'm thinking I may have read too much into it.
Back to Obvious. His self-vote is just confusing as shit as well as horrible. I particularly don't like it because he started off the game in a light-hearted, jovial fashion, and once under serious pressure he's totally flipped out. The two are incongruous. I also picked up on this when going through his filter:
On August 23 2012 13:49 Obvious.660 wrote:
##VOTE: Palmar
Still not sure if this one is the serious about his random lynch. Talky please.
##FOS: Kville for being too much like YourHarry. In fact, anyone who exhibits YourHarry-isms will be policy lynched, shot, and lynched again.
His vote and FoS look like they're totally the wrong way round here. He has a case on Kville and gives another reason to want to kill him (yourharryisms) yet his vote is on the guy he wants to talk with, and only his FoS is on his scumread. Leaning scum.
But: I'd like to present an alternative - Bluelightz. He came into the thread saying he was suspicious of Obvious, but then backed off him because his casual one-liner response was apparently townie. Later he then poops some unfinished thoughts about me into the thread and disappears once again. But most of all, this post:
On August 23 2012 12:08 Bluelightz wrote:Well, I'm here. Show nested quote +I'm honestly not sure why BL is constantly reminding people that he's here and promising additional analysis... and then not delivering.
For those reasons
##FoS BlueLightz Don't have much time, have to sleep but i'll defend: 1.Is it not bad that people are just flinging around reasonless accusations? (or stuff) 2.Are the people I am accusing of not participating participating? 3. I said I am here, but I got too focused on games4. Last promise, I'll deliver tommorow on my summary on marv (depending if my read changes or not, if it does change im going to do an analysis on the person its changed to)
I'm still suspicious of marv though, so my vote is still on him, there's a small chance I'm going to be there for the lynch as well.
This is all just a complete abdication for any responsibility for the Day 1 lynch. He's willing to leave his vote on me, someone who isn't going to get lynched, with only a small chance he'll be back to change it. He's been around in the game but instead of making an effort he's been playing games. He will deliver his summary on me 'tomorrow'. What use is that?? The lynch is today.
He's barely making reads, he's totally apathetic towards the lynch, and seems pretty uninvested in the game and with town in general.
##Unvote
##Vote: Bluelightz
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I remember thinking about BL last night before sleep, thanks for reminding me. Taking a look.
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Yeah BL's original case on you was garbage, and coupled with: 4.Why is when I got into the game a factor in me being scum?(Hint: explain), It's not like I should always post when I'm not ready. Not sure what this even means. Unless it means he lurked intentionally to gauge the thread and to have a target in mind (me) to strike to appear active and involved. Keyword: appearance. His play since then has been, as Marv has put it, uninvolved.
##UNVOTE
##VOTE: Bluelightz
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Dat powermove.
Obvious self vote does feel contrived. Like, this isn't a large game where his flip by lynch is a drop in the bucket. It is a mini. Every townie is precious.
While rethinking consider who you feel is most likely to flip town...we'll lynch the other guy.
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On August 24 2012 03:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
Dat powermove.
Obvious self vote does feel contrived. Like, this isn't a large game where his flip by lynch is a drop in the bucket. It is a mini. Every townie is precious.
While rethinking consider who you feel is most likely to flip town...we'll lynch the other guy.
For someone who posts so much, dear, you have an uncanny knack for saying so much with so little.
Do you disagree with me on Bluelightz then??
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United States22154 Posts
About 7 hours left in the day
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Nonono...hold on. Let me go LOOK at Bluedizzle first.
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Yeah I disagree on Bluelightz.
##Unvote
##Vote marvellosity
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United Kingdom36161 Posts
yeah, that's not good enough. explain.
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On August 24 2012 04:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yeah I disagree on Bluelightz.
##Unvote
##Vote marvellosity
You make a compelling 'argument' there
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He comes across as townie. He was attacked, I feel he adequately defended...and your case on him reads as diversionary to the Obgious wagon Palmar is pushing.
Because I am leaning town on Palmar and null on Obvious, the math is pretty easy.w
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On August 24 2012 01:19 Bluelightz wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 21:13 Shady Sands wrote:Basically my read on BL is as thus: The guy never endorses the lynch-lurker position, then lurks pretty hard himself. Why is he adopting such a lurker-friendly stance? Also, he drops one liners calling people out either 1) flinging baseless accusations or 2) not participating. If you look at those 2 claims, you'll realize he can essentially put everyone into those 2 buckets, as loud players go into bucket 1, and quiet players into bucket 2. So his MO is essentially a wash. Third issue is why he seems to go out of his way to make himself seem like an active participant: On August 23 2012 18:46 Bluelightz wrote:On August 23 2012 18:43 Palmar wrote:
chill.
I've decided to give you the chance of being town VE.
So let's work together on this one now.
I am currently writing a summary of how I feel about the thread, can you stick around for an hour or so to discuss shit? I Can \o/ On August 23 2012 14:23 Bluelightz wrote:For now, ##Vote:marvellosity
Some reasons 1. On August 22 2012 21:00 marvellosity wrote:
I will read the thread properly when I manage to steal a decent chunk of time at work.
For now, come out and play or die a horrible scummy death.
##Vote: Kville Takes the easy lynch target, and only because of him lurking, and doesn't provide additional reasons. 2. His post's are mostly one-liners with the occasional suspicion On August 22 2012 23:47 marvellosity wrote:
... epically ninjad by BL :x On August 22 2012 23:52 marvellosity wrote:
you're right. maybe not so epic.
More reasons later as I read more :/ On August 23 2012 12:08 Bluelightz wrote:
Well, I'm here. I'm honestly not sure why BL is constantly reminding people that he's here and promising additional analysis... and then not delivering. For those reasons ##FoS BlueLightz Don't have much time, have to sleep but i'll defend: 1.Is it not bad that people are just flinging around reasonless accusations? (or stuff) 2.Are the people I am accusing of not participating participating? 3.I said I am here, but I got too focused on games 4.Last promise, I'll deliver tommorow on my summary on marv (depending if my read changes or not, if it does change im going to do an analysis on the person its changed to)
I'm still suspicious of marv though, so my vote is still on him, there's a small chance I'm going to be there for the lynch as well.
This defense is weak.
1/2 don't address the point, which is that you can potentially auto-accuse anyone given your criteria.
3 is a cop-out and mostly null to me.
4 is really wierd because tomorrow = after the lynch, which means his analysis won't be of use until the lynchvote after a full Day/Night cycle. this is a huge scumtell in my opinion, because it means that BL is speaking under the assumption that marv will somehow survive past the night. The only two individuals who can feel that confident about marv surviving the night would be medic (targeting to protect from NK) or scum (not NKing marv.)
Given that BL is accusing marv of being scum before a wagon has come into play, I highly doubt he is a medic planning to protect marv. The only possibility left is that he is a scum.
For that reason, as well as the insufficient defense, I switch my vote to BL.
## Unvote
## Vote BlueLightz
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so you disagree with my read, and therefore you're voting me on an associative tell?
really VE?
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*shrug*
Your play has seemed off too. You aren't brazen enough. Sassy. But obviously shit like that isn't admissible is it?
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On August 24 2012 04:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
He comes across as townie. He was attacked, I feel he adequately defended...and your case on him reads as diversionary to the Obgious wagon Palmar is pushing.
Because I am leaning town on Palmar and null on Obvious, the math is pretty easy.w
Hang on, why do you feel BL is townie?
Also if town Palmar is pushing a null Obvious, then how is a case that looks diversionary to that case a scumtell?
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United Kingdom36161 Posts
Go read Dwarf. I was suspicious there too because I wasn't pushy/brazen/whatever enough.
If you think I'm scum trying to divert a lynch, clearly this suggests I'm trying to get it off my scumbuddy, Obvious. Except you lean null on him? It's logically inconsistent.
Go read BL again. Tell me how you possibly think he gives a shit about this lynch.
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On August 24 2012 04:14 Shady Sands wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 04:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
He comes across as townie. He was attacked, I feel he adequately defended...and your case on him reads as diversionary to the Obgious wagon Palmar is pushing.
Because I am leaning town on Palmar and null on Obvious, the math is pretty easy.w Hang on, why do you feel BL is townie? Also if town Palmar is pushing a null Obvious, then how is a case that looks diversionary to that case a scumtell?
Also, VE, by the same logic, if I read BL as scum, and you come in here launching a vote on Marv with very little explanation, then aren't you also scummy for playing diversionary tactics?
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Anyhow, here's my shortlist for now:
BL
KVille
I'd be fine with a lynch on either one of these.
Still need to re-examine
Lvdr -- seemed really scummy when I left thread earlier, but now seems to have dropped below the radar. Will have to reread thread to figure out why
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Your votes, gentlemen:
Palmar (0):
Chezinu
Shady Sands
VisceraEyes
Obvious.660
Marvellosity (2):
Kville
Bluelightz
VisceraEyes
Lvdr (2):
marvellosity
VisceraEyes
chezinu
talismania
djagulingu
Bluelightz (4):
iamperfection
marvellosity
Obvious.660
Shady Sands
Obvious.660 (2):
chezinu
Palmar
VisceraEyes
Obvious.660
Shady Sands (1):
VisceraEyes
Kville
Kville (0):
Marvellosity
Djagulingu
Shady Sands
VisceraEyes (1)
Palmar
Lvdr
Chezinu (0):
marvellosity
With 12 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch. Currently, nobody is set to be lynched.
The deadline arrives in 5 hours, 45 minutes.
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On August 24 2012 02:09 VisceraEyes wrote:Your Word document is formatted for BBCode? What are you some kind of forum nerd?  There's more support for Lvdr lynch, and I'm satisfied with his chances of flipping scum. I can consolidate on Obvious, but I feel stronger about the Lvdr lynch myself too. My vote stands Palmar.
No, I'm not that cool. I quoted copied pasted what s0Lstice said and edited it.
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