On August 24 2012 05:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
No, I'm not going to vote for Marv so it's pointless. I'm going to consolidate on Bluelightz and mislynch with you guys.

we're talking about the lynch. let's talk bluelightz. can you please answer me on why you think BL's apathy towards the lynch makes him townie? why are you so sure it's going to be a mislynch??

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

August 23 2012 21:00 GMT

#702

Unless I'm missing something, with Bluelightz and my vote, Palmar's itchy marv trigger finger and Obvious playing like a scumbag right now, you ARE one of the main candidates marv..so don't you tell me to fucking play for town.

I'm going to consolidate on Bluelightz with you because you guys are active. That's the ONLY reason. You give a shit about the lynch because you're here, so if no one else shows up and cares then I'll consolidate on Bluelightz. Because I'm that kind of guy.

If I feel like I want to vote for Marv instead I'll build a fucking case. You guys need to calm the fuck down.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

August 23 2012 21:01 GMT

#703

no, let's kill obvious

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

August 23 2012 21:02 GMT

#704

the point is, VE, that we're closing in on the lynch.

You throw your vote on me with little to no explanation other than you disagree with my read and my play feels 'off'.

What you could have done is discussed what you thought about BL and then pushed whoever your strongest scumread was.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

August 23 2012 21:03 GMT

#705

On August 24 2012 06:01 Palmar wrote:
no, let's kill obvious

do you think BL is town? do you disagree with my case, and if so why?

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

August 23 2012 21:03 GMT

#706

Thanks! I could have also posted an animated gif or spouted platitudes about the weight of a feather or something too! But I didn't. Do you think it's scummy? Are you going to vote me for it? Then what's the point of you bringing it up? I realize the things I could have done, but I did what I did. What are YOU going to do about it?

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

August 23 2012 21:05 GMT

#707

On August 24 2012 06:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
Thanks! I could have also posted an animated gif or spouted platitudes about the weight of a feather or something too! But I didn't. Do you think it's scummy? Are you going to vote me for it? Then what's the point of you bringing it up? I realize the things I could have done, but I did what I did. What are YOU going to do about it?

I'm going to get pissed at you, because I've had a decently strong townread on you for most of the game. And somehow you've let me get into your head.

Shady Sands

United States4021 Posts

August 23 2012 21:09 GMT

#708

VE, this just doesn't make any sense at all.

You've been by far the most active poster in the entire thread. Yet you can't be bothered to build a case for Marv, even though you're voting for him, even though he is NOT an easy lynch (one of the other big active posters here), even though it is 5 hours away from deadline.

And you give no reason to lynch or not lynch BL other than the fact that you want to sheep the active townies. This sets you up to gain towncred after a BL green flip, which will likely happen given how hard it will be get another wagon rolling between now and lynch.

This last point I just brought up is why I think you're scum, VE. BL's posting has been massively scummy and most reasonable townies who are reading this thread are including BL on their lists, even troll posters like Chez.

In XXII, we had a similar situation, and the person that suddenly defended the "obvious lynch" ended up flipping GF. I nearly fucked up there and got a VT lynched because I was hell bent on tunneling the "obvious lynch." But looking at what's going on right now, I have major feelings of deja vu.

In this case, I'm going to say fuck it. Even though there's 5 hours left I am not making the same mistake twice.

## Vote VisceraEyes

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

August 23 2012 21:10 GMT

#709

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

August 23 2012 21:10 GMT

#710

Shady, I think VE is quite unlikely to be scum. Please vote for a candidate that might actually get lynched.

Shady Sands

United States4021 Posts

August 23 2012 21:11 GMT

#711

On August 24 2012 06:10 marvellosity wrote:
Shady, I think VE is quite unlikely to be scum. Please vote for a candidate that might actually get lynched.

Why? Other than a case on Lvdr he actually hasn't built a coherent argument.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

August 23 2012 21:11 GMT

#712

You forsaked me. On the Lvdr thing marv, I was forsooken. FORSOOKEN!!!!

I'll never forgive it. Ever.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

August 23 2012 21:13 GMT

#713

Nothing happened between when marvellosity was attacking Lvdr for his own reason and when he defended Lvdr from my attack. Except...ready for this? LVDR ATTACKING MARV'S DECENTLY STRONG TOWNREAD VE.

Lynch this clown. He doesn't get to break hearts in this town again.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

August 23 2012 21:14 GMT

#714

On August 24 2012 06:11 Shady Sands wrote:

Show nested quote +

Why? Other than a case on Lvdr he actually hasn't built a coherent argument.

you just answered your own question. the case on Lvdr was coherent. His pressure on you was typical of his townie play. He's also been VERY active which is a towntell.

move your vote.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

August 23 2012 21:15 GMT

#715

On August 24 2012 06:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
Nothing happened between when marvellosity was attacking Lvdr for his own reason and when he defended Lvdr from my attack. Except...ready for this? LVDR ATTACKING MARV'S DECENTLY STRONG TOWNREAD VE.

Lynch this clown. He doesn't get to break hearts in this town again.

someone attacking someone I have a townread on has to be scum? why?

iamperfection

United States9645 Posts

August 23 2012 21:17 GMT

#716

busy day im back happy to see many have seen the light on bluelightz i still support it.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

August 23 2012 21:22 GMT

#717

On August 24 2012 06:15 marvellosity wrote:

Show nested quote +

someone attacking someone I have a townread on has to be scum? why?

It's not that marv, it's that on top of the other little things I keep mentioning.

For instance, why are you dealing with extremes and strawmen here? He's scum because of the reason YOU pointed out and the reason I pointed out. Tell me - besides refuting my point on Lvdr, what ELSE makes you think he's town? Because your vote was on him for a good reason - do you feel like that contradiction no longer points to a scum Lvdr? Because I don't think anything has changed. Yet you do...and ON TOP OF THAT you defended him when I attacked him (again, for good reason.) AND ON TOP OF THAT your play has seemed not brazen or sassy enough. AND ON TOP of that my townread is pushing a lynch - one you theoretically shouldn't have MUCH of a problem with - and you're trying to push a DIFFERENT wagon.

SOMEONE I HAVE A TOWNREAD ON MARV

So keep setting up those strawmen Marv, I'll just keep knocking them down.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

August 23 2012 21:24 GMT

#718

Lvdr explained that when he said the thing about being controversial Day 1 before, he meant it in a negative connotation because it made people suspicious of him, thusly he was going to try to avoid that this game.

I had read it as he said he was going to be controversial and he wasn't being.

This is in the thread. What don't you understand?

Further, because you have a townread on someone, I have to agree with their choice of lynch? How does that even make sense?! I'm scum because I think somenoe else is scummier than the person being pushed?