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##Unvote
##Vote lvdr
See how this is more powerful than FoS? If you just FoS people and wait for them to "defend" themselves. They will just lurk. Why defend when you know no one will vote for you? Speaking you lvdr, shady, and obvious... and whoever else used it prepage 28..didn't feel like going that far back.
Anyways. We need to narrow down our lynching list. I wonder if we are having trouble reading mafia because they are lurking. Right now the votes seem spread out. Can a mafia wanting to look like town compile the votes without "accidentally" distorting them? Thanks. I'm hoping once we narrow down the list, it will force mafia to vote each other.
So how about one of:
Lvdr
Obvious
Bluelightz
tali
kvillie
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You know the thread is dead when Chezinu gets bored and does a vote count..
Palmar (1):
Shady Sands
VisceraEyes
Chezinu
Obvious.660
Marvellosity (1):
Kville
Bluelightz
Bluelightz (1):
iamperfection
Shady Sands (1):
VisceraEyes
Kville
Kville (2):
Marvellosity
Djagulingu
Shady Sands
VisceraEyes (1)
Palmar
Lvdr
Obvious.660 (0)
Chezinu
Lvdr (4)
Marvellosity
VisceraEyes
Talismania
Palmar
Chezinu
Chezinu (1)
Marvellosity
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I'm voting Obvious, not Lvdr
Although to be fair, Lvdr is a decent lynch too, the difference is that Lvdr has only been scummy in a possibly lazy scum way, instead of downright doing inane shit like Obvious.
Chez, you should be helping me kill Obvious.
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##unvote
##vote Obvious.660
oh I was giving up on obvious because I thought you were on lvdr
ok, I suck at vote counting then
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Palmar (0):
Shady Sands
VisceraEyes
Chezinu
Obvious.660
Marvellosity (0):
Kville
Bluelightz
Bluelightz (1):
iamperfection
Shady Sands (1):
VisceraEyes
Kville
Kville (3):
Marvellosity
Djagulingu
Shady Sands
VisceraEyes (1)
Palmar
Lvdr
Obvious.660 (2)
Chezinu
Palmar
Chezinu
Lvdr (1)
Marvellosity
VisceraEyes
Talismania
Chezinu (1)
Marvellosity
oh I know what happened lvdr was under obvious and I forgot to space it. I remember notice it later and making a space between it.
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oops, I copied pasted my word document one without the updated numbers..
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On August 23 2012 21:13 Shady Sands wrote:Basically my read on BL is as thus: The guy never endorses the lynch-lurker position, then lurks pretty hard himself. Why is he adopting such a lurker-friendly stance? Also, he drops one liners calling people out either 1) flinging baseless accusations or 2) not participating. If you look at those 2 claims, you'll realize he can essentially put everyone into those 2 buckets, as loud players go into bucket 1, and quiet players into bucket 2. So his MO is essentially a wash. Third issue is why he seems to go out of his way to make himself seem like an active participant: Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 18:46 Bluelightz wrote:On August 23 2012 18:43 Palmar wrote:
chill.
I've decided to give you the chance of being town VE.
So let's work together on this one now.
I am currently writing a summary of how I feel about the thread, can you stick around for an hour or so to discuss shit? I Can \o/ Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 14:23 Bluelightz wrote:For now, ##Vote:marvellosity
Some reasons 1. On August 22 2012 21:00 marvellosity wrote:
I will read the thread properly when I manage to steal a decent chunk of time at work.
For now, come out and play or die a horrible scummy death.
##Vote: Kville Takes the easy lynch target, and only because of him lurking, and doesn't provide additional reasons. 2. His post's are mostly one-liners with the occasional suspicion On August 22 2012 23:47 marvellosity wrote:
... epically ninjad by BL :x On August 22 2012 23:52 marvellosity wrote:
you're right. maybe not so epic.
More reasons later as I read more :/ I'm honestly not sure why BL is constantly reminding people that he's here and promising additional analysis... and then not delivering. For those reasons ##FoS BlueLightz
Don't have much time, have to sleep but i'll defend:
1.Is it not bad that people are just flinging around reasonless accusations? (or stuff)
2.Are the people I am accusing of not participating participating?
3.I said I am here, but I got too focused on games
4.Last promise, I'll deliver tommorow on my summary on marv (depending if my read changes or not, if it does change im going to do an analysis on the person its changed to)
I'm still suspicious of marv though, so my vote is still on him, there's a small chance I'm going to be there for the lynch as well.
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Ok, we seriously need to pick and stay on a lynch candidate. Now it looks extremely spread out.
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If it's up to me I want to kill obvious. No one has yet provided a reason for not killing him, and he hasn't shown up in the thread to alleviate any of the accusations against him.
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Your Word document is formatted for BBCode?
What are you some kind of forum nerd?
There's more support for Lvdr lynch, and I'm satisfied with his chances of flipping scum. I can consolidate on Obvious, but I feel stronger about the Lvdr lynch myself too. My vote stands Palmar.
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Gah there's not is there. JESUS WHY?
All right...
##Unvote
##Vote: Obvious
I thought there were WAY more votes on Lvdr.
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On August 24 2012 02:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
Gah there's not is there. JESUS WHY?
All right...
##Unvote
##Vote: Obvious
I thought there were WAY more votes on Lvdr.
You're not sold on KVille?
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Nope - not sold. Plus I still find you moderately suspicious and you're the only voice opposing Kville..so.....vote for Obvious (or Lvdr).
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##Unvote
##Vote: Obvious.660
I'm not afraid to die.
Yes, I am bad town. I'm not making excuses for it, I'm just working around like you would work around a broken leg. By doing stuff the best you can.
Palmar, your response would have been enough if it had occurred the first half of D1, you know, when I asked for it. You avoiding answering it then and there, as simple as the answer was, would have gone a long to my concern against you. Vote was a pressure vote since you weren't forthcoming on your own.
Now you're engineering my mislynch? There were hints dropped throughout the day that I've been acting suspicious (that I disagree with, but again, consider the source). So here's my plan. I'm going to vote for me. You get two more votes for me in VE and yourself, Palmar. 4 to go. I imagine if neither of you two are scum you will be looking closely at those 4 additional votes so consider this me doing you a favor as my entrusted neighbors.
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That's supremely unhelpful Obvious, but I guess you know that.
I really prefer an Lvdr lynch. Remove your vote from yourself and put your vote there.
##Unvote
##Vote: Lvdr
I'm willing to consolidate onto Obvious, but I prefer an Lvdr lynch today.
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On August 24 2012 02:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
That's supremely unhelpful Obvious, but I guess you know that.
I really prefer an Lvdr lynch. Remove your vote from yourself and put your vote there.
##Unvote
##Vote: Lvdr
I'm willing to consolidate onto Obvious, but I prefer an Lvdr lynch today.
I'll tell you what. I'll look at him myself an decide if he's more scummy than I look and only then will I switch my vote to him, we good?
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on the phone so ill be brief
i hate that shit with a passion obvious, no matter your alignment, voting yourself is playing against your win condition.
fuck this shit.
rethinking, will post later
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On August 23 2012 20:07 Palmar wrote:
Alright this is the lynch I want
##Vote Obvious
For reasons outlined in my post.
tl;dr version:
1. Posts generic stuff (discussing lurker lynches and such)
2. Spends an absurd amount of time obsessing about my random lynch idea
3. His only attempt at scumhunting is basically rehashing what people already said about Kville
4. Wants to lynch me on something that's a null-tell, without any attempt at further analysing my play.
Please go along with this guys.
Well, at least I was right about what Palmar was trying to achieve with random-lynch bullshit. He's picking off the guys who got overly obsessed with it.
While liking his read on Obvious, I'm also reading something stupid from Lvdr. He basically defended Shady for the whole day, doing his job for him, which brought 3 options in my mind:
1- Lvdr is a scumbag defending his fellow scumbag
2- Lvdr is a scumbag defending Shady to make him look like a scumbag, after seeing people thinking that Shady is a scumbag.
3- Lvdr is a townie and trying to defend someone who he sees as a townie.
Then I see this:
On August 23 2012 20:37 Shady Sands wrote:
back in thread. Why is everyone dropping the focus on Lvdr right now when we had him cold yesterday?
and think. Think about the reason why would one of the 2 scumbags defend the other while getting bussed by the scumbag he's defending.
This kicks the option 1 out of the window and brings another option in its place:
4- Shady is a scumbag trying to pick on controversial townies one by one, trying to create wagons for them.
This eliminates option 3 in my mind. Right now, all I know is they both can't be townies. Checking both filters, I see that Shady is reading the thread, producing cases, participating the scumhunt, trying to be helpful at the very least. His attention is pretty scattered though. On the other hand, I look at Lovedoc and see that all he ever posts is some fluff showing no intention to participate in scumhunting, microscopic to no attempt on reading players and sharing his leads, almost like he doesn't even need to read other guys in the thread. All I know is; scum does not have to read people because they know everything, town on the other hand has to.
##Unvote
##Vote: Lvdr
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LoveDoctor
So far we're more similar in our views up to the point I flipped back from reading. He's trying to understand Shady Sands' play and stating opposition to a random lynch. Just a heads up for you who have not played together with Shady, Shady's town play is more typically characterized as JingleHell-esque -- biting in HARD and not letting go without good reason or better targets -- something which has not been matched here and thus I've intended to keep an eye on Shady for not matching it to decide if he's doing it more out of fear of being in the spotlight in a normal game or if he's scum trying not to rock the boat here too much.
Still thinking alike up to this point:On August 23 2012 05:51 Lvdr wrote:
Regarding Shady, I have a null/town read on him based on his interactions (tunneling) with kville. I don't think he would be a good lynch target for d1because if he is scum we can smoke him out later based on his activity. Town Shady I knew would have been pushing harder on Kville but, as I saw in the thread Marv dissuaded him from pursuing Kville during his absence. Sup with that Marv, you are certainly aware of Shady's town meta. You protecting town or scum with this?
After this, LordVader is dismissive of Shady Sands' play as misguided town and moves to the ever-vocal VE.
Oh look, LactoseVolkswagon has you possibly pegged:On August 23 2012 07:30 Lvdr wrote:
EBWOP: Otherwise VE is just trying to bandwagon a bad townie. Is your voting for him OMGUS or are you legitimately concerned about the new guy being able to read you?
This guy is town to me. My vote stays on myself.
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On August 24 2012 03:06 Palmar wrote:
on the phone so ill be brief
i hate that shit with a passion obvious, no matter your alignment, voting yourself is playing against your win condition.
fuck this shit.
rethinking, will post later
I don't care what you hate.
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