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On August 23 2012 05:13 Kville wrote:
Ok sorry,
Reason im not scum in order by my filter
-I was thrown under bus becuase i was supposed lurker
-Tried to counter the vote and suspected marv based on his recent one liners and random lynch on me
-All i tired to do was end the accusations on me
-Turned heads towards shady based on filters between VE and shady even more so since the recent ones came out.
-obvious filters seem out of ordinary as well same as marvs
Im not a scum just quick reaction responses becuase of the scenario and place i was at (school).
If anything im liking VEs choice and the way he is basing his decisions.
Thrown under the bus? Who threw you under the bus?
Your defense is:
--people are picking on me
--I tried to defend but I was at school/afk
--point fingers at shady, obvious, and marv (forgetting about the other lurker, talis? or are you not looking at lurkers anymore?)
--then saying "fuck it, im just gna sheep VE"
and finally a semi-slip by using the phrase thrown under the bus
This is either terribad town play or... terribad scum play. It's so off the scale, i'm not even sure how to read it
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On August 23 2012 05:26 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 05:24 Shady Sands wrote:On August 23 2012 05:13 Kville wrote:
Ok sorry,
Reason im not scum in order by my filter
-I was thrown under bus becuase i was supposed lurker
-Tried to counter the vote and suspected marv based on his recent one liners and random lynch on me
-All i tired to do was end the accusations on me
-Turned heads towards shady based on filters between VE and shady even more so since the recent ones came out.
-obvious filters seem out of ordinary as well same as marvs
Im not a scum just quick reaction responses becuase of the scenario and place i was at (school).
If anything im liking VEs choice and the way he is basing his decisions.
Thrown under the bus? Who threw you under the bus? Your defense is: --people are picking on me --I tried to defend but I was at school/afk --point fingers at shady, obvious, and marv (forgetting about the other lurker, talis? or are you not looking at lurkers anymore?)--then saying "fuck it, im just gna sheep VE" and finally a semi-slip by using the phrase thrown under the bus This is either terribad town play or... terribad scum play. It's so off the scale, i'm not even sure how to read it Did you not just whine at me about this? JUST NOW SHADY?
Yeah, but at least I gave some damn good reasons for tunneling KVille like a railroad engineer and dropping my focus on lurkers. KV, on the other hand, didn't.
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Also, VE, note that my point was part of a slew of other scumpoints that KVille had accumulated. Your case on me was built on only the point that I'd shifted from lynch-lurker to tunnel-KV.
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On August 23 2012 05:47 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 05:40 Shady Sands wrote:
Also, VE, note that my point was part of a slew of other scumpoints that KVille had accumulated. Your case on me was built on only the point that I'd shifted from lynch-lurker to tunnel-KV. This is patently false. I had you as a scum-read before you even came back into the thread Shady. This is Shady claiming scum everyone, please take note and vote accordingly.
Your scum-reads before I came back into the thread were incoherent (kind of like Chezinu's post above), so I ignored those. Your accusation after I came back into the thread made some sense so I responded to it and I remember it.
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On August 23 2012 05:23 talismania wrote:
dear lord what happened there.
I think I typed in the quote:
"continuing my trend of what? I never vote early D1. I'm not a fan of how my name keeps floating up for seemingly no reason."
FYI, what are your top scumreads at the moment? Anyone deserving of an FoS or vote?
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On August 23 2012 05:58 Lvdr wrote:@VE It is entirely possible Shady misunderstood your suspicions. In my last few games we have had to deal with a lot of suspicious Bad townies. This is what shady looks like me right now. Show nested quote +This is Shady claiming scum everyone, please take note and vote accordingly. This statement is really over the top. You seem too experienced to push this as town; therefore I find your behavior scummy. ##Vote: VisceraEyes
I have no idea as to VE's meta, so I'd hesitate to make a read like this. If he's scum, he's playing very fast and loose for one.
That being said, though, VE I find your waffling between me and KVille kind of strange. If KVille looks really scummy to you, and I look really scummy to you, how does that make sense when I started tunneling KV aggressively before he really came up on anyone's radar? (Especially when I could have rando-voted another lurker instead of piliing on the train?)
I just want to get your thoughts on that, since there may be something I haven't caught yet and you are (according to people in XXII) one of the best mafia players here.
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ebwop: by XXII, I meant newbie XXII.
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On August 23 2012 06:03 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 05:57 Shady Sands wrote:On August 23 2012 05:47 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 23 2012 05:40 Shady Sands wrote:
Also, VE, note that my point was part of a slew of other scumpoints that KVille had accumulated. Your case on me was built on only the point that I'd shifted from lynch-lurker to tunnel-KV. This is patently false. I had you as a scum-read before you even came back into the thread Shady. This is Shady claiming scum everyone, please take note and vote accordingly. Your scum-reads before I came back into the thread were incoherent (kind of like Chezinu's post above), so I ignored those. Your accusation after I came back into the thread made some sense so I responded to it and I remember it. Oh really? Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 12:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
YOU'RE ALL SUSPICIOUS.
Yes, even you.
But we have a common enemy. One who cares not for finding scum, who cares for nothing but himself. I'll tell you his name.
Shady Sands
Whatever you think of me, I can assure you this one means you harm. Hide your kids. HIDE YOUR WIVES!!!!! Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 12:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Throughout his filter, Shady Sands does nothing but fling baseless suspicion around the thread at anyone posting for any reason. Go look for yourself, he literally hasn't said anything of substance for me to quote as proof. Every post he makes is a leading, accusatory, one-time interaction with someone in the thread...or arguing with marvellosity. Never have we seen a read or an opinion of his own. Even in arguing with marvellosity I don't get the feeling that Shady thinks marv is scum - and that DOMINATES his filter.
##Unvote
##Vote Shady Sands This was before you entered the thread. So you're either not reading the thread (my guess) or you're blatantly and maliciously misrepresenting the facts. Which is it Shady?
Your first post there is empty. Your second post is based on posts from the first half of D1, a grand total of only a few posts from me when most people hadn't even started serious discussions yet. Basically, your second post was non-indicative of anything, so I didn't think it was important. I'm sorry if you think it is.
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On August 23 2012 06:00 Lvdr wrote:
Also in a show of great irony I second VE's analysis of chez's post.
Scum hate making their own cases. It is much easier to get on board someone else's. Chez seems to be explicitly asking to do just this.
Agreed here. Chez doesn't make sense. Chez, can you stop trolling us and actually post a case?
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On August 23 2012 06:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
It is important, as it displays a complete lack of any kind of concern about helping the thread find scum. The section of the day you're dismissing as "not indicative of alignment" is, in my opinion, one of the BEST points in the game to find skating by, aloof scum such as yourself. I'm sorry if you don't think it is, but I'm afraid you're mistaken.
Got it. I'll keep that in mind for future games, I guess, but I mostly have a difficult time finding scumreads early D1 myself. After this is over, maybe you can PM me some tips and tricks for doing it.
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On August 23 2012 06:16 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 06:13 Shady Sands wrote:On August 23 2012 06:00 Lvdr wrote:
Also in a show of great irony I second VE's analysis of chez's post.
Scum hate making their own cases. It is much easier to get on board someone else's. Chez seems to be explicitly asking to do just this. Agreed here. Chez doesn't make sense. Chez, can you stop trolling us and actually post a case? I'm not trolling. You have to get reactions before you can accuse people.
Don't you think there's enough raw material in the thread to build a case with now?
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KVille is home now. Where is his promised case/defense? Or was what he posted basically it?
Because if that's all he brings to the table, then he is my clearest scumread ATM and I am officially switching from a rando-vote on KVille to a vote based on a scumread.
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On August 23 2012 06:43 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 06:41 Shady Sands wrote:
KVille is home now. Where is his promised case/defense? Or was what he posted basically it?
Because if that's all he brings to the table, then he is my clearest scumread ATM and I am officially switching from a rando-vote on KVille to a vote based on a scumread. Regardless of what I think about you, I can get behind this...although I thought your read had already switched to a scumread. 
Yeah I had a scumread on KVille but I wasn't willing to base my vote on it just yet.
But if that's all KV is bringing to the table then I'm going to base my vote on it. (Before, it was just a rando-vote on a lurker.)
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On August 23 2012 06:54 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 06:51 Lvdr wrote:
Take 3: Does VE have a history of successfully reading scum d1? aka What is the chance that Shady flips red based on Ve's read? AH, the CRUX. In asking if I have a history of "successfully reading scum D1", ven if I have 100% accuracy in the past, this is completely meaningless unless you are operating under the premise that I'm town and am READING Shady. It shows his true thoughts on me (that I'm town) hiding beneath his actions (his vote, the questions, the ruse) and betrays preexisting knowledge of my alignment. Chez, you truly are inspirational. ##Unvote
##Vote Lvdr
I guess I'm being mildly retarded here, but I don't actually understand how this is a slip. VE can you please explain?
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On August 23 2012 07:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
He's wondering if I'm "reading you accurately" while voting me. He's SAYING he thinks I'm scum, but he slips my alignment in asking if I'm "reading you accurately"...which is something only town can do (scum don't read anyone, they know everyone's alignment).
Ah, ok. In that case I'd be fine with a lynch on Lvdr, although I still stand by my read on KVille.
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On August 23 2012 07:06 talismania wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 07:00 Chezinu wrote:
PS: You guys were suppose to talk about my question when I was sane so that I could get some reads BUT NOOOOO you guys had to get me all paranoid so that I went Chezinu!! You just couldn't take it! You called my sane postins NOTHING and TROLLING!! I NEVER GET CALLED THAT WHEN I DOOOO TROLL!!!!! You unleashed a monster mafia!!! reposting this: I have read this like ten times now and it seems pretty clear that he is claiming mafia. Is this... I mean, what? Is this really a troll? I can't understand it from either alignment unless it's just a straight-up slip.
This better not be a bastard mafia game where Chez rolled Jester.
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On August 23 2012 07:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
The fact that he completely disappears while apparently "awaiting responses to his question" in light of all this is pretty damning too, tbh.
I'm flipping through his filter right now, to see if we can do any association scumtells.
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On August 23 2012 06:30 talismania wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 05:59 Shady Sands wrote:On August 23 2012 05:23 talismania wrote:
dear lord what happened there.
I think I typed in the quote:
"continuing my trend of what? I never vote early D1. I'm not a fan of how my name keeps floating up for seemingly no reason." FYI, what are your top scumreads at the moment? Anyone deserving of an FoS or vote? kville for reasons stated. djasldkfhlskad because his first post didn't sit well with me. too overcomposed, nothiung like the kind of posts he made pre-game. he was also more engaged pre-game than in the game. but he's strange to read because his top suspect changes every few posts and I don't know why. for some reason I was his top suspect, but it was never explained why that was the case, even though he at least posted some about obvious when he FoS'd him.
Got it. Funny that you mention his pre-game behavior not matching up with in-game--didn't notice this on my first pass through his filter but definitely is apparent now. Oh well, further cements the scumread on him.
Lvdr looks really scummy right now.
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On August 23 2012 07:13 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 07:10 Shady Sands wrote:On August 23 2012 07:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
The fact that he completely disappears while apparently "awaiting responses to his question" in light of all this is pretty damning too, tbh. I'm flipping through his filter right now, to see if we can do any association scumtells. You seem pretty certain of it to be checking the thread for all that - yet your vote remains on KVille. How ODD. And why haven't you been doing that with regard to KVille?
I won't make a scumread vote on someone until after they've had a chance to defend themselves. Also, I have been doing association scumtells through KVille but he points fingers in so many different directions it's pretty hard to do so.
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back in thread. Why is everyone dropping the focus on Lvdr right now when we had him cold yesterday?
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