I would like recruit people to support a lynch against Archrun. Archrun flipping scum likely means that Thrawn and Shady (Thrawn, especially) are probably town.
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YourHarry
United States1152 Posts
I would like recruit people to support a lynch against Archrun. Archrun flipping scum likely means that Thrawn and Shady (Thrawn, especially) are probably town. | ||
thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
On August 17 2012 07:58 DarthPunk wrote: I am really uncomfortable with how fast a counter wagon on the most active player in the game sprung up. I urge everyone to read MY CASE on thrawn. My initial FOS on yourharry was bad play. I didn't have sufficient evidence to put a FOS on YH. My suspicion was only based off of how many times yh had flip-flopped so I was wary of him. The FOS was unwarranted. I called FOS without putting enough thought into the decision. I do think that I gave a good explanation of why I later believed he was town: On August 16 2012 05:27 thrawn2112 wrote:At this point I think YH's alliance hinges on whether or not you believe his story about suspecting solar and gk of being masons. At one point in the game I was willing to indulge the thought that YH and solar were masons based off a weak read I was making, (the extra information YH was hinting at) so it is easy for me to believe that YH did the same. YH, for now I believe your story and do not think either you or solar are scum. I clarified my argument after being pressed about it: The 2nd paragraph contained the majority of my thought process concerning YH. Some people thought YH was scum because he was posting as if he had additional information, but I saw a different perspective. YH said he acted the way he did because he made a self-admittedly weak read into gk's post. I then said that I was previously nursing a weak read that he and solar were either masons or scum. I had at that point abandoned my weak read, which caused me to be trusting of YH's claim that he also made a weak read about potential mason status of solar. I had made the same mistake as YH claimed to make, which is why I was inclined to believe YH. However, me making a weak read does not confirm that YH was telling the truth in admitting to making a weak read. I was willing to accept that YH was town, but since mkfuba had recently expression sucpicion of YH I wanted to know if my argument was sufficient to convince mkfuba, and if it wasn't then I would obviously want to know the reason why. | ||
YourHarry
United States1152 Posts
Guys this is NOT a majority lynch. Whoever gets the most votes will be lynched. | ||
Archrun
United States20 Posts
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Solarsail
United Kingdom538 Posts
On August 17 2012 08:10 YourHarry wrote: My strong town read on Thrawn is confirmed by Archrun's recent post stating that exactly Thrawn or Shady are scum. I don't know how he arrived at this conclusion. While it is unlikely that they are bussing each other as scums, how to exclude the possibility that they are both towns? I would like recruit people to support a lynch against Archrun. Archrun flipping scum likely means that Thrawn and Shady (Thrawn, especially) are probably town. I would be prepared to swap to Archrun, but I don't want to unvote quite yet in case Thrawn is accidentally lynched, since the Archrun route implies Thrawn is town. | ||
DarthPunk
Australia10847 Posts
On August 17 2012 08:10 YourHarry wrote: My strong town read on Thrawn is confirmed by Archrun's recent post stating that exactly Thrawn or Shady are scum. I don't know how he arrived at this conclusion. While it is unlikely that they are bussing each other as scums, how to exclude the possibility that they are both towns? I would like recruit people to support a lynch against Archrun. Archrun flipping scum likely means that Thrawn and Shady (Thrawn, especially) are probably town. You are now Guilty of the exact same thing as Archun except you have worded it without looking blatantly suspicious. That makes you more suspicious to me than Archun's post did. I don't see why you have a 'strong town read' on thrawn, I don't think any one in their right mind could have a strong town read on him at this point in time. I could see why you don't think he is the best lynch candidate, but strong town read? give me a break. In no way at all does Archun's post confirm Thrawn as town. Jesus Christ. First thrawn does it for you and now you are doing it for thrawn. | ||
DarthPunk
Australia10847 Posts
On August 17 2012 08:15 Solarsail wrote: I would be prepared to swap to Archrun, but I don't want to unvote quite yet in case Thrawn is accidentally lynched, since the Archrun route implies Thrawn is town. How does it Imply Thrawn is town? | ||
Golbat
United States499 Posts
At first, he really plays up how much of a newbie he is, and how he doesn't know anything about playing. He says that he's planning on reading several of the mafia guides in the pregame. But his questions are so simply answered by READING ANY MAFIA GUIDE and or the OP of this thread that it is obvious he did not bother to do any of the reading he claimed. This to me is a clear indicator of someone who wants a simple explanation for their bad play. "Oh sorry i'm just new". I used the new player excuse in XXII and it got me lynched. I'm sure if he had done the reading he would have read "don't just claim newbie lol u will die". That's just one of the things he does that I find to be scummy. Not to rehash other's discussion on this, but he has been sheeping and avoiding making his own reads the entire game as well. from On August 15 2012 13:52 thrawn2112 wrote: YourHarry, who do you find most scummy at this exact point in time? to On August 16 2012 07:11 thrawn2112 wrote: FOS Archrun Archrun, you have made 3 posts so far and none of them have had anything directly to do with scumhunting. Can you tell us what you think about shady's claims concerning solar, myself, and newharry? Which is the beginning of a really poor case on Archrun based on that he is lurking and provided the least amount of content. And that's pretty much his case. He spends the remainder of the time up until now either asking for other peoples reads or talking about archrun, until joining the shady wagon. He mentions several times how his vote was "not an OMGUS" and then he says this. On August 17 2012 05:34 thrawn2112 wrote: Can somebody try to convince me why I shouldn't vote for shady and instead vote for a lurker? I am confident in my vote for shady, but there is still the possibility that he is town and that he made a terrible case. I think it is more likely that he is scum, but if someone can convince me that a specific lurker is a way more likely to be scum then I will change my vote. This has nothing to do with my confidence for reading shady as scum. He's begging people to post something so he can sheep it. It's so far beyond just poor play that I can't really believe he isn't scum. He talks about scumhunting and how everyone else should do it, without ever doing it himself. If that isn't scummy, I don't know what is. | ||
Solarsail
United Kingdom538 Posts
It doesn't. But a vote for Archrun would be accompanied by an assumption Thrawn IS town, or none of Archrun/Thrawn's posts make sense. Anyway I decided I shouldn't make an impulse switch and we don't have time to argue this out with all participants. | ||
DarthPunk
Australia10847 Posts
On August 17 2012 08:12 thrawn2112 wrote: My initial FOS on yourharry was bad play. I didn't have sufficient evidence to put a FOS on YH. My suspicion was only based off of how many times yh had flip-flopped so I was wary of him. The FOS was unwarranted. I called FOS without putting enough thought into the decision. I do think that I gave a good explanation of why I later believed he was town: I clarified my argument after being pressed about it: This is not a good argument. I am inclined to believe Your Harry does not give a town read. at best it is null. and is incredibly weak in the context of you pushing your 'town read' so heavily. There is actually no argument present at all besides some poor justifications for your backflip. | ||
DarthPunk
Australia10847 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
ShadySands (4): thrawn2112, SolarSail, mkfuba07, Jhuyt thrawn2112 (4): ShadySands, Archrun, DarthPunk, Golbat Archrun (3): Stutters695. Ochrow, YourHarry Jhuyt (2): goodkarma, Z-Boson Shady Sands currently set to be lynched. 20 minutes until the deadline! | ||
DarthPunk
Australia10847 Posts
On August 17 2012 08:40 marvellosity wrote: Vote count, cowboys: ShadySands (4): thrawn2112, SolarSail, mkfuba07, Jhuyt thrawn2112 (4): ShadySands, Archrun, DarthPunk, Golbat Archrun (3): Stutters695. Ochrow, YourHarry Jhuyt (2): goodkarma, Z-Boson Shady Sands currently set to be lynched. 20 minutes until the deadline! Er. What? It is a tie. What happens then? | ||
Golbat
United States499 Posts
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Golbat
United States499 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On August 17 2012 08:40 marvellosity wrote: Shady Sands currently set to be lynched. More explicitly, first to 4 gets lynched. | ||
thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
On August 17 2012 08:24 DarthPunk wrote:There is actually no argument present at all besides some poor justifications for your backflip. You say my justifications were poor, and I say they weren't..... Harry referred to information that only he claimed to have. Later he took back the claim he made based off that information. He revealed the information to be that he thought that solar and gk were masons because of the wording of gk's post. This statement..... On August 15 2012 13:20 YourHarry wrote: Shady. I guess there is a small chance that I could be wrong. But if I am right, it is not a good idea to reveal this information. Let's move on for now. ......gives credence to his story about him thinking solar and gk are masons. After this post: On August 15 2012 14:14 mkfuba07 wrote: @YourHarry: When did you check your role PM this time? I began to think that yourharry and solar were masons. I realized later that I was reading way too much into everything. My experience of thinking that solar is a mason and realizing that I was making a weak read is what caused me to trust yourharry's claim that he made a weak read on the mason-status of solar. | ||
DarthPunk
Australia10847 Posts
On August 17 2012 08:43 Golbat wrote: In the event of a tie the person with the most votes first wins (or loses). OK thanks. | ||
DarthPunk
Australia10847 Posts
[QUOTE]On August 17 2012 08:24 DarthPunk wrote:There is actually no argument present at all besides some poor justifications for your backflip.[/QUOTE] You say my justifications were poor, and I say they weren't..... That's fine. But is not a particularly compelling reason to change my mind when they so obviously are poor. Let me be clear. The justifications you gave would be acceptable to give Your Harry the benefit of the doubt. But to make a town read and then champion that read. Not a chance. | ||
DarthPunk
Australia10847 Posts
On August 17 2012 08:46 DarthPunk wrote: That's fine. But is not a particularly compelling reason to change my mind when they so obviously are poor. Let me be clear. The justifications you gave would be acceptable to give Your Harry the benefit of the doubt. But to make a town read and then champion that read. Not a chance. | ||
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