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Axero
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Axero
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I have been blessed with my role of townie, and would like to extend neighborly brownies to all my townie brothers and sisters! As for policy: I agree with Hapa's policy of not blindly lynching due to high activity. I'm torn on the lurking policy, just because I'd feel bad if I accidentally voted for a fellow townie; but we must do what we must do to save our homes! | ||
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Axero
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It is also possible that they are both scum. Setting someone up as a sacrifice to ensure everyone views the other as a townie would seem like a very effective strategy. Just my two cents. (Post made from mobile so apologies for lack of quotes) | ||
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Axero
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On August 10 2012 08:55 Hapahauli wrote: Un-Fos Lvdr and iamperfection I'm pretty satisfied with Lvdr's activity and defense so far. In addition, he's going after lurkers (Sideni) and is actively defending himself. I see enough similarities with his town play from the aborted game to give him the benefit of the doubt. As for iamperfection, I think I'm falling victim to confirmation bias on him again. My case was based around his "going with the flow," and his questioning of Promethelax kinda destroys that bit of it. I'm satisfied enough with his activity to lay down my case. However, I do find two players very suspicious at the moment: FOS Axero and GoodKarma Both players have been pretty lurky so far; Axero with 2 posts and GK with 3. Furthermore, neither has contributed anything significant to the discussion. GoodKarma's three posts have only to do with disagreeing with the lurker policy. He hasn't done anything else while everyone in the town is actively discussing/throwing around suspicions. I find his lack of posting very unsettling. Axero has two posts, one fluff/introductory post, and another that idly points suspicion: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355874¤tpage=24#478 As I pointed out in the link above, his ideas are fairly illogical, and it reads to me like a useless-post designed only to point suspicion. FOS Hapa I've actually been pretty busy since the game started, but no I haven't made many posts. I'm sorting out my feelings on people and as this is my first game it's taking me some time to get used to it. However you are very quick to point to several people. The feeling I'm getting from you is that you're only being active to avoid suspicion. Seems like you're over doing it a little bit. Might be a snap reaction but it is how I feel at this point in the game. | ||
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Axero
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 ) As for your first criticism, those two statements I made were my response to YH, not actual suspicions against you, kind of just possibilities. But yes, at this point, it is my gut reaction to your actions. In the middle of a game of DotA atm, so I'm sure this didn't answer everything you wanted. I'll respond in a bit. | ||
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Axero
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On August 10 2012 09:47 Hapahauli wrote: So let me get this straight - your strategy going in to this game was to lurk until your name was mentioned, then FOS the guy who called you out for lurking? Well hearing your "strategy" - you better have some damn good explanations for your play so far. Haha, no I wasn't planning on lurking. I was actually going to go ahead with my plans without checking the forum at all, but someone coaching me suggested i still check. | ||
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Axero
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Axero
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On August 10 2012 01:43 Hapahauli wrote: This post makes absolutely no sense. Your first "theory": YH is town and I am mafia. Somehow, my exchange with YourHarry is a ploy for me to get YH lynched. Hell I haven't pointed any suspicion at YH! How exactly does this theory make sense? Even with spoiling that you're joking, you're still putting the idea in people's heads, whether serious or not. ------------------------------------------ On August 09 2012 09:16 Hapahauli wrote: Your second "theory": Mafia do not seriously bus each other early in Day 1. Maybe a mini-argument to distance themselves from one another (like the mini-argument between mkfuba and YourHarry early on D1 last game), but never any serious suspicion Hell I don't understand what part of our exchange constitutes any suspicion at all. You have to explain this more Axero. Wild theories won't get you anywhere, especially if they suggest that you haven't read or analyzed the early-game exchange between me and YourHarry. Why do Mafia not bus eachother Day 1? It seems that doing so early would set one of the mafia up in a great spot to lead the game in a direction that highly favors them. I may just be missing the point to not doing so. My thinking when bringing this up is that most of you were in a game together already and if you rolled scum this game, you would still need to match your previous activity, because everyone expects you to play this way. What better way to stay active and make a case against someone else than this? If I'm just completely missing something let me know, but this seems pretty logical from my point of view. You're suspicious to me Hapa, that hasn't changed as of yet, regardless of lack of evidence. -------------------------------------------------------- On August 10 2012 17:27 YourHarry wrote: It is possible that Hapa is scum. But the fact that he is being active does not increase that chance. He has been active as townie before, and whether or not he is actively trying to match that meta is unclear. But let's suppose Hapa is scum. Who do you think are his scum partners? Who do you think can be cleared as town? As far as who else I think is scum... I have no personal reads on anyone else yet, but much of the arguements against lvdr I find myself agreeing with. And who I think can be cleared as town, I find myself agreeing with much of what mkfuba07 is saying, so as of right now I'm saying town for him. YourHarry, even though you're against Hapa as far as me being scum goes, I still can't really place you as town in my book quite yet, but you're closer to town than scum right now. This post from iamperfection is really what is making me a bit cautious. On August 10 2012 07:18 iamperfection wrote: Lvdr defends me because he knows im town in hopes that i will go after someone else. Lvdr then encourages me to make new case in hopes to get attention on someone else. I'll try to start adding good analysis. | ||
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Axero
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I'm not going to defend what I have already said was a bad post. In your post you say the final straw for voting for me was: On August 10 2012 13:29 Hapahauli wrote: In regards to the above, I think points 1-3 could be null or bad-townie tells given the proper context. Point 4 however I find extremely scummy. Just look at this quote: The excuse is the thing that really gets to me. He's not just saying that he's a newb (normal/badtownie tell) - he's using it as an excuse for not having read the thread, not having provided analysis, and general lurkiness. I find this scummy. Why did you decide this was the breaking point to which I could no longer be a town, in your eyes? If I had mentioned me having other plans during the night earlier (like you and a couple others did), would this have changed your view toward the statement, or would you still feel the same way? The only evidence you have on me not being town is some bad logic posts and excuse posts, that a few others have disagreed with you on. As for Day 1 lynching, your activity isn't a good giveaway and my suspicions remain a gut feeling. Lvdr seems to be pointing at several people currently. About 80% of his posts this game have been on the topic of lurkers and calling lurkers out, instead of actually discussing anything that actually involves other people's posts. He has a couple, but not many. ##Vote Lvdr | ||
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Axero
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Axero
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You've been switching targets pretty erratically. 80% is probably an overstatement, but you've been focusing on it quite a bit. | ||
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Axero
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It's a fast paced game.  I'm still excited to play, even if you can't see it in my posts. Learning as I go.Fluff: (Congrats on the wedding btw) | ||
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Axero
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Axero
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-------------------------------- Really? Well happy apartment finding then. I have a side of my bed open if you want to rent it! Happy Wedding Konen!! | ||
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Axero
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Spooning required, clothes optional. | ||
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Axero
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I honestly didn't think about it before the game started, but it is what it is, cant change that. | ||
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Axero
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Does anyone else feel the same? Is this common and not something I should be looking into? | ||
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Axero
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On August 11 2012 04:45 Sideni wrote: Well, what is really suspicious is that we are currently talking about you and then, from nowhere, you try to draw the attention off of yourself by talking about mkfuba being lurking ! ##FOS Axero I pointed it out earlier before any of this, but it was at the end of a page and figured people missed it. | ||
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Axero
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Axero** @Sideni http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355874¤tpage=30#600 | ||
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Axero
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I don't really care if people vote for me or not, go for it if you feel its your best move. I'm still going to be looking at other people, and at the moment mkfuba07 is one of the ones standing out the most to me. | ||
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Axero
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Axero
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@ Hapa 1) Since when did bad logic = scum? 2) Mistake on fluff = scum? 3) Context tends to help. You dwell so bad. | ||
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Axero
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@ Hapa If I were scum, how would it benefit me to fos you? Surely there's easier people to go after that wouldn't bring so much attention to myself. | ||
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Axero
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On August 11 2012 05:35 iamperfection wrote: Get that wifom shit out of here. I know almost everthing can be wifom but come on. You complain about 1 liners and then post 1 liners. GG I'm tired, I'm going to bed. Vote how you will. All you're doing is bringing up stuff I can't defend without saying something you've already complained about being scummy. PCE | ||
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