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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 07 2012 17:00 GMT
#301
Why I believe Promethelax is a better lynch than Synyster and iamperfection

Synystyr - while he has been suspicious, the suspicion on him so far has been too easy. It's been coming together without any resistance from scum or Synystyr himself. I doubt mafia would sit back and watch one of their own burn with so little resistance. WIFOM, yes, but that's my feeling.

iamperfection - His play has been suspicious, but my confirmation bias may have gotten the best of me when I questioned him. I just can't see mafia deciding to policy-lynch YourHarry from day 1. It seems absurd in my eyes, and I want to see more from iamperfection before I make a decision.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 07 2012 17:01 GMT
#302
Oh, and since it was at the bottom of the last page:

My Case on Promethelax
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355874&currentpage=15#299

Cliff-Notes:
1) Inconsistent attitude towards YourHarry
2) Voting Golbat for scum-mentality reasons
3) Fluff Posting (meta/town-advice/etc)
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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 07 2012 17:09 GMT
#303
On August 08 2012 02:00 Hapahauli wrote:
Why I believe Promethelax is a better lynch than Synyster and iamperfection

Synystyr - while he has been suspicious, the suspicion on him so far has been too easy. It's been coming together without any resistance from scum or Synystyr himself. I doubt mafia would sit back and watch one of their own burn with so little resistance. WIFOM, yes, but that's my feeling.

iamperfection - His play has been suspicious, but my confirmation bias may have gotten the best of me when I questioned him. I just can't see mafia deciding to policy-lynch YourHarry from day 1. It seems absurd in my eyes, and I want to see more from iamperfection before I make a decision.


The reason why it's felt so easy to lynch Synystyr is because he hasn't been defending himself. I haven't seen a single case or single defense out of him since the train on him started, which is anti-town play. Given how guilty Syn looks and Syn's inactivity, we could just as easily say that scum was bussing him.
Что?
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 07 2012 17:14 GMT
#304
On August 08 2012 02:09 Shady Sands wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 02:00 Hapahauli wrote:
Why I believe Promethelax is a better lynch than Synyster and iamperfection

Synystyr - while he has been suspicious, the suspicion on him so far has been too easy. It's been coming together without any resistance from scum or Synystyr himself. I doubt mafia would sit back and watch one of their own burn with so little resistance. WIFOM, yes, but that's my feeling.

iamperfection - His play has been suspicious, but my confirmation bias may have gotten the best of me when I questioned him. I just can't see mafia deciding to policy-lynch YourHarry from day 1. It seems absurd in my eyes, and I want to see more from iamperfection before I make a decision.


The reason why it's felt so easy to lynch Synystyr is because he hasn't been defending himself. I haven't seen a single case or single defense out of him since the train on him started, which is anti-town play. Given how guilty Syn looks and Syn's inactivity, we could just as easily say that scum was bussing him.


You could very well be right, however, it's my experience that concensus lynches on D1 rarely end well. Furthermore, his lack of defense is not necessarily mafia-oriented - you'd think mafia would atleast ATTEMPT to defend themselves, or at the very least, his teammates would urge him to post. This reads as bored/ragequitting townie to me.
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mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
August 07 2012 17:22 GMT
#305
I'm going to reread your case against Prom a few times before responding to it, but I just want to know: What was the tipping point between your previous slight town vibe and "strongest scum read"?
Never trust a skinny innkeeper
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 07 2012 17:28 GMT
#306
On August 08 2012 02:22 mkfuba07 wrote:
I'm going to reread your case against Prom a few times before responding to it, but I just want to know: What was the tipping point between your previous slight town vibe and "strongest scum read"?


I was tunneling iamperfection so hard that I didn't see anything else around me (confirmation bias wooo). Your initial case alerted me to Promethelax's play, and after replying to your case, I was surprised at how little attention he was getting with his relatively low post count (most of his posts are pre-game). One thing led to another, and I decided to write a case this morning.

The last paragraph in his last post really sealed the deal for me - the mafia-motive to me is very clear, and the rest of his play falls into place very well.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
August 07 2012 17:29 GMT
#307
IMPORTANT

iamperfection accidentally learned the alignment of Hapahauli, both players being town. Talking this over with some people I decided that the best thing I can do is restart the game with a new setup and new role and alignment distribution.

This sucks a lot for everyone but I really think this is the best way to handle this. I can't let iamperfection play on. I could try to fix it with bastard modding or replacement but I think that restarting the game is the best solution for everybody.

+ Show Spoiler [Setup] +
Promethelax Vanilla
Dandel Ion Vanilla
Golbat Vanilla
Hapahauli Vanilla
iamperfection Cop
Synystyr Veteran
TolEranceNA Vanilla
Sideni Vanilla
YourHarry Goon
mkfuba07 Goon
Shady Sands Godfather
Lvdr Vanilla


Game restarts as soon as possible.

You will all have to /in again (and I will favor people who played in this game).
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
August 07 2012 17:31 GMT
#308
whoever came up with the idea for a restart is a smart man.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 07 2012 17:31 GMT
#309
akjwehfakwjbfmsndbvamsdnfbewhfjeh2r32heo13halksjdbnck

/in
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
August 07 2012 17:31 GMT
#310
/in
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 07 2012 17:31 GMT
#311
How did that happen lol?

Anywhooo /in again
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 07 2012 17:32 GMT
#312
Also, I am sad now, those mafia were catchable Q.Q
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
August 07 2012 17:33 GMT
#313
Wow a restart. Didn't see that one coming
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-07 17:35:20
August 07 2012 17:33 GMT
#314
/coach
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 07 2012 17:35 GMT
#315
Btw, is there an obs/mafia QT for D1 we can read through?
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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 07 2012 17:36 GMT
#316
/in

=(
Что?
Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 07 2012 17:36 GMT
#317
Are we going to see a full list of roles from the last game or not?
Что?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 07 2012 17:36 GMT
#318
On August 08 2012 02:36 Shady Sands wrote:
Are we going to see a full list of roles from the last game or not?


it's in prplhz's post just there
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 07 2012 17:37 GMT
#319
On August 08 2012 02:36 Shady Sands wrote:
Are we going to see a full list of roles from the last game or not?

It's in prplz' post?

+ Show Spoiler +
u dirty scum
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 07 2012 17:37 GMT
#320
@mkfuba - you scumslipped harrrrrrd here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355874&currentpage=15#300

@ Shady - if Synyster didn't flip red, you would've looked awful from the case you pushed

@ YourHarry - you just blew my mind lol
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