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Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
August 05 2012 16:20 GMT
#741
On August 06 2012 01:13 grush57 wrote:
Solstice, my man.
Lol, care to post something usefull?
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 05 2012 16:25 GMT
#742
On August 06 2012 01:20 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2012 01:13 grush57 wrote:
Solstice, my man.
Lol, care to post something usefull?


And break his streak?
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
August 05 2012 16:45 GMT
#743
On August 06 2012 01:04 Zephirdd wrote:
S&B, your pretty pwetty little list is nothing but a list of half-ass scum reads made to make anyone look scummy.

I heard somewhere that those who post many "scum reads" at once are most likely scum because they are creating ground for several targets. Are you scum?



nooooope, better luck next time!

I decided to reread the whole thread, thinking of looking for scum other than wbg, and that list is what I found.

If you look, you'll note that several of the people I quoted haven't posted much. I'd kind of like them to post a bit more before I decide on one of them to push for lynching tomorrow. But rest assured, I will narrow it down to one when the day post comes around and I'll push to lynch that person.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
August 05 2012 16:48 GMT
#744
On August 06 2012 01:04 Zephirdd wrote:
S&B, your pretty pwetty little list is nothing but a list of half-ass scum reads made to make anyone look scummy.

I heard somewhere that those who post many "scum reads" at once are most likely scum because they are creating ground for several targets. Are you scum?


Two more things.

1. Does my list really make you more suspicious than Talismania's? They were like four posts apart, but his list just had general impressions and feelings whereas I actually quoted the posts that make me think people are scum.

2. Do you disagree with my reads? Do you think some of the posts I'm quoting are not scummy? Seriously, take a look and tell me.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
August 05 2012 16:52 GMT
#745
Here's my reading on toad (no quotes because I'm lazy)

He's really pushy, it seems like he really wanted to defend wbg/take the spotlight away from him by spamming the whole "vote for prplhz" thing. More recently he posted about wbg being the best course of action again, let's see if he deviates from that once more.

He also came out as Mason after being so dead set on there being no advantages of doing so (which I agree on), it seemed weird to me.


I'm out for the day, bye.
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
August 05 2012 17:42 GMT
#746
On August 06 2012 01:52 Glasse wrote:
Here's my reading on toad (no quotes because I'm lazy)

He's really pushy, it seems like he really wanted to defend wbg/take the spotlight away from him by spamming the whole "vote for prplhz" thing. More recently he posted about wbg being the best course of action again, let's see if he deviates from that once more.

He also came out as Mason after being so dead set on there being no advantages of doing so (which I agree on), it seemed weird to me.


I'm out for the day, bye.


nice effort bro
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
August 05 2012 17:44 GMT
#747
ANYWAYS, get glasse
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 05 2012 17:47 GMT
#748
Two things to keep in mind:

1) Forget WBG. If he wants to play, he'll play and we can go from there. If he wants to die, he'll vote for himself again and get modkilled.

2) Something I realized yesterday when my making my fake setup: scum got to pick their own roles. This isn't that useful yet given that all four known masons (VE, Erandorr, Toad, and Hassy) are people who conceivably would want to have the mason role.

Actually there's a third thing now that I'm thinking about it,

3) DTs! Please strongly consider checking into one of VE/Hassy. Or if you don't agree with me, at least check one of the masons
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
August 05 2012 17:58 GMT
#749
I'm finally near a computer. I'm going to post my thoughts on prplhz as promised, even though it's useless now, and give my thoughts on those of us remaining.

prplhz entered the game in what I perceived to be an extraordinarily scummy way. The first thing he did upon entering was complain about spam that had yet to even occur. I mean, there's fostering a pro-town environment and there's seeking out easy town-cred by saying something completely devoid of content, you know? Anyway, when I called him out on it his response was to diffuse the situation. I viewed this as overly diplomatic according to what I've observed as prplhz' playstyle. As a result, my scumread on prplhz was born.

His only subsequent actions he made in the game were his case on Glasse and his vote on slOosh for inactivity. Those are the only things prplhz had done in the game. And looking at the timing of it all, it just looked extremely bad.

But prplhz flipped town. So that leaves us with the question:

Who, among us, is scum?

Right now I'm looking into talismania, Errandor, Zephirdd and I'm filtering one JingleHell and I'm trying to figure out what to think about wherebugsgo. I'll post my findings in detail a little later...but those are my preliminary thoughts before reading/casemaking.

Anyone saying I'm scum for "my attitude" needs to have their head checked. I've been trying to help. I apologize for my absence, I intend to do my part in finding and destroying our enemies.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
August 05 2012 18:02 GMT
#750
I wouldn't mind having a DT or Vig on WBG either.

The thing about WBG was this:
It was a read based on 3 things and all 3 things meant mafia for me
  • meta = faking being pissed
  • mason outing for the sake of doing something bold. I have yet to see those reactions that he created by putting pressure on Eran and VE. Pretty sure they're in his logs...
  • Never mentioning Prplhz and out of nowhere he gets to be a 95% sure mafia read

The first point got destroyed once I saw the log, I questioned myself and thought going after prplhz is the better way. I also considered the read on prplhz better than a read on on WBG that was based on only 2 things, while a read based on all 3 things about WBG would have been supirior.

So DT feel free to check Hassy or WBG imo. Eran / VE and myself are decent targets as well if you consider us to be scummy but I don't so far, so I haven't those 3 names included. Those are good targets to check if you have a "well he's at least somewhat scummy" feeling.
If you have a really strong read on someone else checking them is obviously good as well.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 05 2012 18:02 GMT
#751
VisceraEyes

Respond to this please:

On August 05 2012 17:16 talismania wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 01:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
Because I'd rather hunt for scum than defend myself, so I masoned a veteran in as a shortcut to establishing my innocence with him if he's town so he can smack down anyone (Toad) who thinks I'm scum for stupid-ass reasons.

Also if he's scum, I wanted a private line with him in case he felt like telling me all about it in PMs. So far he hasn't. :/

Him instantly outting me wasn't something I'd considered. I figured he'd talk to me about it first. I have a long way to go in understanding Bugs' play.


Want to follow up on this more...

this was really your thought process in picking bugs? I want to get someone to protect me? you say that you'd "rather hunt for scum" yet I don't see any scumhunting from you after this.

Furthermore,

1) your logs with wbg please. (PMs too)
2) why are you playing tighter and less actively? I'm used to reading games of you as a fast-paced loose townie. This feels different -- restrained.

talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 05 2012 18:04 GMT
#752
Toad Still would like to see those game notes of yours just to confirm that you were taking them

Hassybaby That goes for you too. Let's see your game notes :3
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
August 05 2012 18:06 GMT
#753
actually screw what I said about DTs. DT'ing vets is stupid. Mafia gets to choose their GF as well, I thought they can only choose masons.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 05 2012 18:06 GMT
#754
indeed, hence best to choose among the masons.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
August 05 2012 18:07 GMT
#755
1) I'll post my logs before dawn. I never Skyped, only TL PM'ed, so it won't be a huge eyesore or anything.

2) You're also used to reading games of me getting lynched D1 and D2 for retarded claims and shitty play. I'm trying to tone it down. Evidence of this can be seen in Beururuauruuracracy Mafia, D1 of NMM, etc etc. I'm playing differently - restrained. I can assure you though, I'm reading and have thought.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
August 05 2012 18:08 GMT
#756
On August 06 2012 03:04 talismania wrote:
Toad Still would like to see those game notes of yours just to confirm that you were taking them

Hassybaby That goes for you too. Let's see your game notes :3

I think I already posted enough information so far. Some of my notes are already in the thread.

Read the initial post I did about VE? Those lines in the spoiler where directly copy & pasted.
Read the log between Eran and myself? When I explained why I consider him to be town, that's directly from my notes.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 05 2012 18:09 GMT
#757
Ok thanks VE but can you expand on your thought process for picking bugs? Like you really wanted to make a friend to defend you so that you could focus on scumhunting? That was your motivation?
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
August 05 2012 18:10 GMT
#758
Toad you don't check people you have a strong read on bro - you check people you can't/aren't like to get a read on.

But you know, that's just what I've heard. Through the grapevine.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 05 2012 18:11 GMT
#759
On August 06 2012 03:08 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2012 03:04 talismania wrote:
Toad Still would like to see those game notes of yours just to confirm that you were taking them

Hassybaby That goes for you too. Let's see your game notes :3

I think I already posted enough information so far. Some of my notes are already in the thread.

Read the initial post I did about VE? Those lines in the spoiler where directly copy & pasted.
Read the log between Eran and myself? When I explained why I consider him to be town, that's directly from my notes.


So there's stuff in the rest of your notes that you don't want seen yet? Why? (Genuine question I can think of legitimate reasons)

If you're just worried about clutter there's always spoiler tags.
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
August 05 2012 18:11 GMT
#760
On August 06 2012 03:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
1) I'll post my logs before dawn. I never Skyped, only TL PM'ed, so it won't be a huge eyesore or anything.

2) You're also used to reading games of me getting lynched D1 and D2 for retarded claims and shitty play. I'm trying to tone it down. Evidence of this can be seen in Beururuauruuracracy Mafia, D1 of NMM, etc etc. I'm playing differently - restrained. I can assure you though, I'm reading and have thought.


Any reason not to do it now?
Any at all?

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