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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 04 2012 20:02 GMT
#581
Also I'm not going to ask for replacement now given that it would be completely unfair to tell a replacement to take my place and try to play for me with my actions in place. That's a nightmare situation that no one should be forced to deal with.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
August 04 2012 20:02 GMT
#582
On August 05 2012 05:01 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 04:57 Toadesstern wrote:
what about this?

We lynch Mr 95% mafia: Prplhz

I said he's mafia. Erandorr seems to agree, WBG posted most recently that he thinks prplhz is mafia as well, sloOsh thinks prplhz is mafia and prplhz thinks WBG is town, which is REALLY odd unless he wants to tell people later "told ya", which is one of the reasons I am questioning the wbg lynch.

If Prplhz flips mafia we're all happy.
If Prplhz flips town we lynch/shoot WBG + talis

I don't understand your aversion to the talis lynch. We already got some votes on him, and he has been at the top of your scum list from the start of the game. Any reason why you want to do it in this specific order?

Prplhz gives information on prplhz and wbg.
Talis gives information on Talis.

That's pretty much it.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
August 04 2012 20:05 GMT
#583
Oh. Then I'm gonna ask you to come over to the talis lynch, solely for the sake of consolidation.
WBG is town as town can be. I'd totally back a d2 prplhz lynch too (or n1 shot but I aint no vig )
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 04 2012 20:07 GMT
#584
sloosh just mason me tomorrow and we can chat this through if you like :-)

starting to doubt my read on toad. Well it depends. If none of wbg prp or I are scum and toad is then he's free to do whatever, including consolidating on me later if he wants.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
August 04 2012 20:10 GMT
#585
On August 05 2012 05:05 slOosh wrote:
Oh. Then I'm gonna ask you to come over to the talis lynch, solely for the sake of consolidation.
WBG is town as town can be. I'd totally back a d2 prplhz lynch too (or n1 shot but I aint no vig )


It's something like this:
I said Talis is mafia
I said WBG is mafia
and I said Prplhz is mafia

People agreed with what I said about wbg.
Pretty much no one agreed with what I said about Prplhz
Literally noone agreed with what I said about Talis.

The two people who masoned me would prefere a Prplhz lynch as far as I can tell as well.

I'm going to be afk for an hour or something like this. If people think Talis is the better move I'll vote talis, if people think prplhz is the better move I'll vote prplhz. I think prplhz is marginally better and it's only 22:00 my time. Waiting until 23:00 shouldn't be a problem to see what people think.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
August 04 2012 20:11 GMT
#586
On August 05 2012 05:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
Sure, my play has not been the best given the fucktard that won't stop tunneling me for no reason at all.

Normally I'd be completely fine with some idiot tunneling me but the fact that I'm low on patience coupled with other people agreeing with his terrible reasoning is enough to make me want to not play anymore.

Seriously if you think I am scum, when I flip town go read some new player guides. Especially Erandorr, you never do anything in any of the games you sign up for except lurk and complain other people are bad when you are worse than all of them. Then you think so highly of yourself that you are capable of catching me (you aren't) when you don't even know basic scumhunting.

Here's a hint: calling me scum every game is not you being able to catch me regardless of what I flipped in the past. It's just you falling head over heels for confirmation bias because you think results make you good.


jesus fucking christ get over yourself and get over erandorr.

if you are town then:
- your decision to out the masons without explaining it was terrible
- your explanations for it were terrible
- your vote on grush was terrible

After that I am not going to sit here and take you calling me bad for thinking you're scum.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 04 2012 20:12 GMT
#587
fwiw prp does look really scummy. Not to mess with your calculations or anything.

so we're up to four masons total? Maybe 5 if I'm right about sloosh/dropula?
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 04 2012 20:13 GMT
#588
On August 05 2012 05:11 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 05:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
Sure, my play has not been the best given the fucktard that won't stop tunneling me for no reason at all.

Normally I'd be completely fine with some idiot tunneling me but the fact that I'm low on patience coupled with other people agreeing with his terrible reasoning is enough to make me want to not play anymore.

Seriously if you think I am scum, when I flip town go read some new player guides. Especially Erandorr, you never do anything in any of the games you sign up for except lurk and complain other people are bad when you are worse than all of them. Then you think so highly of yourself that you are capable of catching me (you aren't) when you don't even know basic scumhunting.

Here's a hint: calling me scum every game is not you being able to catch me regardless of what I flipped in the past. It's just you falling head over heels for confirmation bias because you think results make you good.


jesus fucking christ get over yourself and get over erandorr.

if you are town then:
- your decision to out the masons without explaining it was terrible
- your explanations for it were terrible
- your vote on grush was terrible

After that I am not going to sit here and take you calling me bad for thinking you're scum.


You thinking a difference in opinion makes someone scum = terrible. None of the things you mentioned are remotely bad in the first place.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 04 2012 20:14 GMT
#589
actually that's a legit point toad who do think is scummiest: VE, Eran, Mason A, Mason B (A and B masoned you)? Do you think all of them are town?
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 04 2012 20:16 GMT
#590
On August 05 2012 05:13 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 05:11 strongandbig wrote:
On August 05 2012 05:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
Sure, my play has not been the best given the fucktard that won't stop tunneling me for no reason at all.

Normally I'd be completely fine with some idiot tunneling me but the fact that I'm low on patience coupled with other people agreeing with his terrible reasoning is enough to make me want to not play anymore.

Seriously if you think I am scum, when I flip town go read some new player guides. Especially Erandorr, you never do anything in any of the games you sign up for except lurk and complain other people are bad when you are worse than all of them. Then you think so highly of yourself that you are capable of catching me (you aren't) when you don't even know basic scumhunting.

Here's a hint: calling me scum every game is not you being able to catch me regardless of what I flipped in the past. It's just you falling head over heels for confirmation bias because you think results make you good.


jesus fucking christ get over yourself and get over erandorr.

if you are town then:
- your decision to out the masons without explaining it was terrible
- your explanations for it were terrible
- your vote on grush was terrible

After that I am not going to sit here and take you calling me bad for thinking you're scum.


You thinking a difference in opinion makes someone scum = terrible. None of the things you mentioned are remotely bad in the first place.


In all seriousness your fatalism is troubling. I know I tried getting myself lynched in your game because I had family coming into town and an exam and all sorts of stuff about four days after the game started and I figured I might as well just bus my teammates or get bussed by them and let them win it in that case. Is this what's going on with your exam situation?
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
August 04 2012 20:17 GMT
#591
Everyone stop the personal attacks. Period. Play the game and if you have a problem with someones play critique the play not the person. Everyone attemping to backseat moderate stop. Everyone who are pming players (while you yourself are not a player) and harassing my players stop now or you will be up for punishment. Mafia games are supposed to be fun, not complete shit shows. Anyone who has played in a game I have moderated knows how hard it is to get me to this point, but seriously stop. This is the only warning.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
August 04 2012 20:21 GMT
#592
Alright, we need focus. We need to choose a lynch candidate for today. I don't think WBG is scum. Therefore I will not lynch him.

Since it seems like the greater consensus is prplhz as scum, I will move my vote to him. VE is going to have to come back and cast his vote in the voting thread anyway. This way we have the best chance of lynching prplhz.

##Unvote: talismania
##Vote: prplhz
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 04 2012 20:21 GMT
#593
Is voting for yourself (stated in the OP specifically against the rules) grounds for modkill? Would it be considered playing against your win condition, and therefore grounds for further punitive action?
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
August 04 2012 20:22 GMT
#594
On August 05 2012 05:13 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 05:11 strongandbig wrote:
On August 05 2012 05:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
Sure, my play has not been the best given the fucktard that won't stop tunneling me for no reason at all.

Normally I'd be completely fine with some idiot tunneling me but the fact that I'm low on patience coupled with other people agreeing with his terrible reasoning is enough to make me want to not play anymore.

Seriously if you think I am scum, when I flip town go read some new player guides. Especially Erandorr, you never do anything in any of the games you sign up for except lurk and complain other people are bad when you are worse than all of them. Then you think so highly of yourself that you are capable of catching me (you aren't) when you don't even know basic scumhunting.

Here's a hint: calling me scum every game is not you being able to catch me regardless of what I flipped in the past. It's just you falling head over heels for confirmation bias because you think results make you good.


jesus fucking christ get over yourself and get over erandorr.

if you are town then:
- your decision to out the masons without explaining it was terrible
- your explanations for it were terrible
- your vote on grush was terrible

After that I am not going to sit here and take you calling me bad for thinking you're scum.


You thinking a difference in opinion makes someone scum = terrible. None of the things you mentioned are remotely bad in the first place.


that has nothing to do with it. I think you're scum because your explanations don't hold together, because you tried to change the lynch to grush (the most lynchable target in the game) and tried to get us to do a troll lynch, because you made a half-assed attempt at a "case" on him later that is far worse than what I know you're capable of, because your explanations were inconsistent, and because your play matches a lot of things that you have said you don't do as town.

None of that has to do with a "difference of opinion."

So once again, fuck you right back.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
August 04 2012 20:23 GMT
#595
Alright so I see BC posted while I was writing that.

He's right, so let me rephrase that post. It should read:


that has nothing to do with it. I think you're scum because your explanations don't hold together, because you tried to change the lynch to grush (the most lynchable target in the game) and tried to get us to do a troll lynch, because you made a half-assed attempt at a "case" on him later that is far worse than what I know you're capable of, because your explanations were inconsistent, and because your play matches a lot of things that you have said you don't do as town.

None of that has to do with a "difference of opinion."
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
August 04 2012 20:27 GMT
#596
On August 05 2012 05:14 talismania wrote:
actually that's a legit point toad who do think is scummiest: VE, Eran, Mason A, Mason B (A and B masoned you)? Do you think all of them are town?

if one of them had to be mafia?

A or B. I consider it highly likely that mafia would mason someone who says "I'm against outing masons" like I did instead of masoning someone else. So if there's only 4 masons in the game I'd say it's quite likely that one of those 2 who masoned me is mafia.

However I don't know how many masons there are. I know of 4 and I wasn't the only one who said he's not going to out masons. I'm going to post logs prior to the n1 deadline though.
If someone else. who happened to be very vocal about not outing masons got masoned as well and we have a "Mason C" somewhere or even a "Mason D" not using his mason power that might change the whole assumption.

If we only have 4 masons one of the 2 guys on me has to be mafia imo but there's no reason to believe there are only 4 masons in this game right now. Or at least nothing that indicates that it's that way and I don't plan on lynching 2 mason for the lulz just to figure out there was a 5th mason.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
August 04 2012 20:27 GMT
#597
Christ we have one of those?!

*grumblegrumble*

I'm gonna look at the filters one last time before I decide. BRB
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
August 04 2012 20:36 GMT
#598
On August 05 2012 04:57 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 04:53 strongandbig wrote:
On August 05 2012 04:33 wherebugsgo wrote:
Also the people who think I willingly brought attention to myself are funny. I didn't fully think of the repercussions when I outted the masons in terms of thread presence but I also didn't account for the fact that many people who have different opinions will consider opposing viewpoints as scummy (because they are incapable of understanding that different does not mean scum)

if you're town then your play this game has been fucking terrible. i guess maybe you have irl shit but that's really the only explanation i could accept for why you've been playing the way you have instead of how you normally play. like, i usually have a lot of respect for how you play but if you're town this game you're being both stupid and an asshole, and i don't feel like sitting here and taking your shit.

He got pissed off and it resulted in some unwanted behavior. Move on - do you have any objections to a talismania lynch?


forgot to answer this.

My objection to a talismania lynch is that it's not a wbg lynch. I don't understand why his recent behavior makes people think he's town. I don't see how it's alignment indicative.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
August 04 2012 20:36 GMT
#599
On August 05 2012 05:27 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 05:14 talismania wrote:
actually that's a legit point toad who do think is scummiest: VE, Eran, Mason A, Mason B (A and B masoned you)? Do you think all of them are town?

if one of them had to be mafia?

A or B. I consider it highly likely that mafia would mason someone who says "I'm against outing masons" like I did instead of masoning someone else. So if there's only 4 masons in the game I'd say it's quite likely that one of those 2 who masoned me is mafia.

However I don't know how many masons there are. I know of 4 and I wasn't the only one who said he's not going to out masons. I'm going to post logs prior to the n1 deadline though.
If someone else. who happened to be very vocal about not outing masons got masoned as well and we have a "Mason C" somewhere or even a "Mason D" not using his mason power that might change the whole assumption.

If we only have 4 masons one of the 2 guys on me has to be mafia imo but there's no reason to believe there are only 4 masons in this game right now. Or at least nothing that indicates that it's that way and I don't plan on lynching 2 mason for the lulz just to figure out there was a 5th mason.

Just discern what they are trying to accomplish with their PMs whether they are trying to sway the lynch one direction over the other etc. Because I really want to lynch talis but more important than that is that we consolidate our votes and hit either prplhz or talis. Or WBG if you really, really, really still think he is scum.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
August 04 2012 20:38 GMT
#600
On August 05 2012 05:36 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 04:57 slOosh wrote:
On August 05 2012 04:53 strongandbig wrote:
On August 05 2012 04:33 wherebugsgo wrote:
Also the people who think I willingly brought attention to myself are funny. I didn't fully think of the repercussions when I outted the masons in terms of thread presence but I also didn't account for the fact that many people who have different opinions will consider opposing viewpoints as scummy (because they are incapable of understanding that different does not mean scum)

if you're town then your play this game has been fucking terrible. i guess maybe you have irl shit but that's really the only explanation i could accept for why you've been playing the way you have instead of how you normally play. like, i usually have a lot of respect for how you play but if you're town this game you're being both stupid and an asshole, and i don't feel like sitting here and taking your shit.

He got pissed off and it resulted in some unwanted behavior. Move on - do you have any objections to a talismania lynch?


forgot to answer this.

My objection to a talismania lynch is that it's not a wbg lynch. I don't understand why his recent behavior makes people think he's town. I don't see how it's alignment indicative.

Read his PM log with Erandorr. Try to approach it from a "what is scum WBG trying to accomplish with his actions" rather than a "is WBG playing as well as what I envision a town WBG would play like".
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