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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
August 03 2012 20:27 GMT
#401
Toad, I'm trying to understand why you even have a scumread on me. For being "weird"? You quoted something as "evidence" of me being "weird" but you never elaborate on what's "weird" about my play. I find your ambiguity to be very uncharacteristic, as you usually say EXACTLY what you mean.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
August 03 2012 20:28 GMT
#402
Hey guys!

Ok, reading through, I'm trying to figure out your motives talis. I totally disagree with your assessment of mason (I think they are a lot better than you are portraying that they are in this game) and would have left it at us just having different opinions

But then you post this:
On August 04 2012 05:13 talismania wrote:
ps can people post their character names? I just want to satisfy my curiosity to find out who is in the game - I know that they don't mean anything since I'm VT with Henry Francis. Although I will LOL if scum has Ted Chaugh and Putnam, Powell, Lowe etc. And if WBG is veteran since Roger comes back from a heart attack in the first season.


Now on surface that may not be that bad, but the fact that you're outlining potential links between names and roles, why in the hell are you bringing it to light? That coupled with you wanting the masons to claim makes me feel you're rolefishing
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 03 2012 20:29 GMT
#403
no not calling VE scum there was talking about toad. I did lean scum on VE initially though. char name?
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 03 2012 20:31 GMT
#404
yeah I'm sort of rolefishing but more for my own amusement.
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
August 03 2012 20:32 GMT
#405
On August 04 2012 05:31 talismania wrote:
yeah I'm sort of rolefishing but more for my own amusement.


hmmmm what.
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talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 03 2012 20:35 GMT
#406
yeah forget it I'll just pm bc for the list of names.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
August 03 2012 20:39 GMT
#407
My guy is called gonzaw. Not really but I'm literally him. Or a mixture between him and myself.

So I'd actually assume BC is picking guys and trying to fit them to people to troll / be funny but that's not helping at all.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
August 03 2012 20:43 GMT
#408
So I decided to actually read stuff properly now.

Talismania first post containing "Glasse" is:

On August 03 2012 23:51 talismania wrote:
Erandorr what do you think of Glasse?

(That was after hopeless1der voted him)

His second post is exactly the same.

The next instance is asking toad his instance on 4 people including Glasse

On August 04 2012 04:37 talismania wrote:
yep zeph is scummy for exactly why sloosh says. erandorr I thought was for a bit but I don't understand masoning wbg from a scum pov. jinglehell is town, lazer is town, strongandbig is town. toad I thought was scum at first because of the timing of his patented color text post but he's just been being generally rather toady, which is to say he makes really strange (from my perspective) conclusions about what's good in the setup and what's not with strange (again from my perspective) reasoning behind it. Glasse I thought was hilariously obviously scummy. Like so blatant I honestly don't know what to think. Guess I should go dig up another game of his.

Then he mirrors a player that has shown a case, throw a bunch of unnecessary town reads(nobody asked that, why do it) and after some fluff he says Glasse was "hilariously obviously scummy" without giving true reasoning(ie. giving a post and explaining why that was a scum post).

Then he is rolefishing "for his own amusement".

Hmm maybe people weren't wrong about questioning his plans on the beginning.
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slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
August 03 2012 20:44 GMT
#409
OK Zeph, I really need clarification of this post:

On August 04 2012 04:54 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 04:45 Zephirdd wrote:
"not contributing"? What do you want me to do, pull bullshit out of my ass the way you are doing?

wbg outing masons is a town move because he believes there is scum in the masons; He is outing them in order to pressure them.

VE is town because his posting lines up with cautious blue that wants to protect his supposedly powerful mason role.
Erandorr is dumb, but I'd say he wouldn't be that dumb as scum.

Talismania's posts made sense for me when he posted them, and I still see them as possible town opinions.

prplhz has been baiting scum with certain actions, while making sense with others. He hasn't caused chaos and is doing a good job in keeping the pace of the thread.

Everything else is a null tell.

I hate defending other people. That's their job. I only defend someone when I feel I have someone better to lynch. I don't.

Deal with it.

Wow, way to discredit me without actually doing it. Could you explain which posts lead you to believe the bolded parts of your post?

Who are you talking to, and could you explain the bolded parts?
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
August 03 2012 20:46 GMT
#410
On August 04 2012 05:44 slOosh wrote:
OK Zeph, I really need clarification of this post:

Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 04:54 slOosh wrote:
On August 04 2012 04:45 Zephirdd wrote:
"not contributing"? What do you want me to do, pull bullshit out of my ass the way you are doing?

wbg outing masons is a town move because he believes there is scum in the masons; He is outing them in order to pressure them.

VE is town because his posting lines up with cautious blue that wants to protect his supposedly powerful mason role.
Erandorr is dumb, but I'd say he wouldn't be that dumb as scum.

Talismania's posts made sense for me when he posted them, and I still see them as possible town opinions.

prplhz has been baiting scum with certain actions, while making sense with others. He hasn't caused chaos and is doing a good job in keeping the pace of the thread.

Everything else is a null tell.

I hate defending other people. That's their job. I only defend someone when I feel I have someone better to lynch. I don't.

Deal with it.

Wow, way to discredit me without actually doing it. Could you explain which posts lead you to believe the bolded parts of your post?

Who are you talking to, and could you explain the bolded parts?



Sorry, I should've added an @sloosh

On August 04 2012 04:57 Zephirdd wrote:
Because that's exactly what I would do in their position. In fact, I did try to bait people on my first posts, but all I got was a lousy newb.
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slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
August 03 2012 20:56 GMT
#411
Ok then, could you then explain this:
On August 04 2012 05:43 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 04:37 talismania wrote:
yep zeph is scummy for exactly why sloosh says. erandorr I thought was for a bit but I don't understand masoning wbg from a scum pov. jinglehell is town, lazer is town, strongandbig is town. toad I thought was scum at first because of the timing of his patented color text post but he's just been being generally rather toady, which is to say he makes really strange (from my perspective) conclusions about what's good in the setup and what's not with strange (again from my perspective) reasoning behind it. Glasse I thought was hilariously obviously scummy. Like so blatant I honestly don't know what to think. Guess I should go dig up another game of his.

Then he mirrors a player that has shown a case, throw a bunch of unnecessary town reads(nobody asked that, why do it) and after some fluff he says Glasse was "hilariously obviously scummy" without giving true reasoning(ie. giving a post and explaining why that was a scum post).
On August 04 2012 04:45 Zephirdd wrote:
"not contributing"? What do you want me to do, pull bullshit out of my ass the way you are doing?

And also how you can so confidently claim that WBG believes there is scum among the masons? I don't recall such a post, and even if you can see yourself doing it it doesn't mean that therefore he must believe the same thing - you essentially are putting words in his mouth.
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
August 03 2012 21:11 GMT
#412
Maybe I am taking too confidently. Fine let me rephrase that for you

I think wbg thinks a scum mason would mason him. Why? Because at the time, I thought "a scum would mason wbg!". However, I don't think either erandorr nor ve are scum at this point. It does make sense, however, that he would out masons. After all, a town mason has nothing to fear(if you assume medics exist) unlike a scum mason.

And the "bullshit" part was just me being mad. "Hey some people posted nothing, let's say this guy who's been giving his opinions on subjects and calling people on other and say he has done nothing!". -_-
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
August 03 2012 21:21 GMT
#413
Yeah I can lynch Zeph.

##Vote Zephirdd

slOosh what do you think about prplhz? I thought he was a little tame for what I'm used to when I attacked him...but then again he's playing differently in general from what I'm used to judging from his last couple of games...I'm null leaning scum. What about you?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
August 03 2012 21:24 GMT
#414
No, this isn't an issue of confidence. Confidence would be saying "WBG is scum/town" rather than "I think WBG is scum/town". What you said was "WBG thinks *this*" and saying "I think WBG thinks *this*" makes no difference, because you are claiming you know how someone is thinking and I'm calling BS on that.

What post of his makes you assume WBG is thinking in the same way as you?
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
August 03 2012 21:39 GMT
#415
##Vote Zephirdd
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
August 03 2012 21:39 GMT
#416
##Vote Zephirdd
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
August 03 2012 21:43 GMT
#417
On August 04 2012 06:24 slOosh wrote:
No, this isn't an issue of confidence. Confidence would be saying "WBG is scum/town" rather than "I think WBG is scum/town". What you said was "WBG thinks *this*" and saying "I think WBG thinks *this*" makes no difference, because you are claiming you know how someone is thinking and I'm calling BS on that.

What post of his makes you assume WBG is thinking in the same way as you?


When you defend someone, do you know what that person is thinking? I don't find wbg's actions scummy. I gave you a possible POV that shows you that he wasn't scummy(aka. what I think he was thinking). What else is there to say?


On August 04 2012 06:39 Zorkmid wrote:
##Vote Zephirdd


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slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
August 03 2012 21:48 GMT
#418
On August 04 2012 06:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yeah I can lynch Zeph.

##Vote Zephirdd

slOosh what do you think about prplhz? I thought he was a little tame for what I'm used to when I attacked him...but then again he's playing differently in general from what I'm used to judging from his last couple of games...I'm null leaning scum. What about you?

Mmm I got some problems too, that I mentioned in response to Toad's case, and looking over the context, I'm leaning scum. Maybe not day 1 material, but definitely has potential for night 1 or day 2. Take this for instance:
On August 04 2012 02:10 prplhz wrote:
@Toadesstern My posting should be self explanatory. There was no secret plan, Glasse was being scummy. That said, I'm willing to let him go for now after his latest post explaining his wherebugsgo read. If you still have problems then flesh them out.

##Unvote Glasse
On August 03 2012 23:01 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 12:13 Glasse wrote:
On August 03 2012 12:08 talismania wrote:
On August 03 2012 11:32 wherebugsgo wrote:
I'm town.

for that matter I'm Roger fucking Sterling, so suck my dick.


oh man I hope bc didn't link role names and actual roles. kinda bet he did though


That could be kinda unfair for those like me who has no clue about mad men. I have no clue who the fuck roger sterling is and what it could imply.


So the time was changed to 9pm, so i guess it's day until saturday at 9pm?
Useless post. Talks about flavor and deadline. Seems like a token first post that townies wouldn't really care to make.
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 22:27 Glasse wrote:
If the mason role is as important as some people are saying, calling them out only exposes them to mafia no?
Non committal post. Asks if your opinions are okay. Scum are focused on how they appear while townies think things through and just say how they feel.
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 22:29 Glasse wrote:
On August 03 2012 22:16 Zephirdd wrote:
Erandorr, why masoning someone who just outted his mason?


wherebugsgo might be full of shit, who knows?
Spreading doubt and undermining wherebugsgo.
Now tell me how and why you are town if you're really as town as town can be. Who is scum?

There is a disconnect. He treats WBG as town but never vocalizes why, even though multiple players are trying to figure it out at the time. He "lets him go" for his explanation on his WBG read, but that wasn't the initial reason he thought Glasse was scum, only a part - I really doubt that that portion was so critical in obtaining a read on Glasse. Throw in a loaded question and you've got yourself someone really suspicious.

That said, I would like to consolidate today's lynch and my preference is heavy on Zeph. If anyone wants to lynch prplhz today opposed to Zeph, it better come with a solid defense of Zeph, or a solid accusation against prplhz beyond what has already been said.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
August 03 2012 21:53 GMT
#419
On August 04 2012 06:43 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 06:24 slOosh wrote:
No, this isn't an issue of confidence. Confidence would be saying "WBG is scum/town" rather than "I think WBG is scum/town". What you said was "WBG thinks *this*" and saying "I think WBG thinks *this*" makes no difference, because you are claiming you know how someone is thinking and I'm calling BS on that.

What post of his makes you assume WBG is thinking in the same way as you?

When you defend someone, do you know what that person is thinking? I don't find wbg's actions scummy. I gave you a possible POV that shows you that he wasn't scummy(aka. what I think he was thinking). What else is there to say?

Usually, since you can glean thoughts from posts. I've asked which of WBG's posts you have gleaned that thought "there is scum in the masons", and you still haven't given me anything, nor a sufficient explanation.

In either case, would you please shed some thoughts on prplhz or any other potential lynch candidate for today?
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
August 03 2012 22:02 GMT
#420
On August 04 2012 06:53 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 06:43 Zephirdd wrote:
On August 04 2012 06:24 slOosh wrote:
No, this isn't an issue of confidence. Confidence would be saying "WBG is scum/town" rather than "I think WBG is scum/town". What you said was "WBG thinks *this*" and saying "I think WBG thinks *this*" makes no difference, because you are claiming you know how someone is thinking and I'm calling BS on that.

What post of his makes you assume WBG is thinking in the same way as you?

When you defend someone, do you know what that person is thinking? I don't find wbg's actions scummy. I gave you a possible POV that shows you that he wasn't scummy(aka. what I think he was thinking). What else is there to say?

Usually, since you can glean thoughts from posts. I've asked which of WBG's posts you have gleaned that thought "there is scum in the masons", and you still haven't given me anything, nor a sufficient explanation.

In either case, would you please shed some thoughts on prplhz or any other potential lynch candidate for today?


I made a mini-case on talismania if you are interested.

When wbg instaclaims he is masoned with VE, and then later with Erandorr, my initial thought is that he is outing masons because it's likely that masons are scum. Simple as that.

My notes on prplhz are "baiting". I don't find him disruptive and he is making sense. Will re-read tho.
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