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s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
August 08 2012 01:24 GMT
#1090
as far as I can tell Glasse didn't vote properly either. I hope that results in a modkill.
ATOBTTR
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
August 08 2012 12:02 GMT
#1124
Actually my dear toad, I think we should be lynching you tomorrow. More on that later though.
ATOBTTR
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
August 08 2012 23:43 GMT
#1188
I want to talk about Toadesstern

Toad's dealings with Errandor-
Toad has an early town read on Errandor, which he has shared from his own notes. This read is pretty unfailing. He was never on any list, was never openly accused. They agreed on WBG. It's evidenced throughout his entire filter. Now have a look at these posts:

+ Show Spoiler +

On August 05 2012 00:12 Toadesstern wrote:
Calling it now:

WBG or Prplhz
Talis
Zephirdd
Ghost403

+ some 5th guy, maybe the smurf idk


the logs between WBG and Eran would indeed give a good idea about wether it's WBG or Prplhz.


A scum list which WBG is on.

On August 05 2012 00:33 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 00:18 strongandbig wrote:
why the either/or? vet balance concerns or what?


Nah could actually be both being mafia as well. It's more like "one of them has to be mafia"

I actually considered Prplhz to be the better lynch candidate yesterday but as people seem to think WBG is scummy like I do and at the same time don't seem to agree on prplhz (except for WBG) I'm a bit more okay with lynching WBG first. I guess I'm paranoid right now because there's so much stuff that makes no sense

If WBG really flips town we at least know his assertion on prplhz being 95% sure mafia was honest, while people like me think the same way.
If WBG flips mafia I'll have to check wether WBG was just trying to gett off the hook or doing something else.


Scum read reinforced, expresses preference to WBG in the prpl/WBG either/or scenario.

On August 05 2012 02:41 Toadesstern wrote:
I still want to see the log between Eran and WBG.
If at least one of you two guys is town (I highly think so) there is no reason not to post it and it would maybe help us figure things out no matter of WBGs alignment.

And I'd rather have it posted before one of you is dead so that we can confirm it's the real thing.


Highly thinks either Eran or WBG is town.

On August 05 2012 03:56 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 00:20 wherebugsgo wrote:
Gotta love 8:30 vision appointments.

For anyone who doesn't know, from my perspective Erandor and VE share two important traits:

One, they both call me scum in every game without fail regardless of their own alignments.

Two, they're both awful as town.

Right now I lean toward Erandor being terrible, since I don't think as scum he'd stop being lazy long enough to form a coherent sentence.

Show nested quote +
from log
[04.08.12 13:19:16] WBG: between VE and myself everyone else on the roster is terrible at town
[04.08.12 13:19:19] WBG: therefore any other shot
[04.08.12 13:19:19] WBG: is bad


Got it. Everyone is awful as town.


Back to accusing WBG.

...so, before and after saying he highly thinks one of either WBG/Eran is town, he accuses Bugs. It's clear to me he is sticking with his town read on Eran.


The time-frame is important. The quotes I just listed show pretty clearly how he views Erandorr around the very beginning of August 5th (like 00:00 to 04:00 KST).

This now is from the mason PMs with Erandorr.

[04.08.2012 21:00:13] Toad: btw I think Hassy could be the last mafia

The timestamp is in CET...converted to KST it's August 5th 05:00. This puts it just after the chain of posts I pointed out above. So basically he is telling someone who he's reading as town that he has a scum read on Hassy. I can't think of any situation where Toad would lie about a read like that given he is reading that person as town. Therefore my take-away from this is that Toad is genuinely reading Hassy as scum. This is further evidenced by how he has lately been pretty vocal about Hassy being scum.

Ten minutes later, he posts this in the thread:

On August 05 2012 05:10 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 05:05 slOosh wrote:
Oh. Then I'm gonna ask you to come over to the talis lynch, solely for the sake of consolidation.
WBG is town as town can be. I'd totally back a d2 prplhz lynch too (or n1 shot but I aint no vig )


It's something like this:
I said Talis is mafia
I said WBG is mafia
and I said Prplhz is mafia

People agreed with what I said about wbg.
Pretty much no one agreed with what I said about Prplhz
Literally noone agreed with what I said about Talis.

The two people who masoned me would prefere a Prplhz lynch as far as I can tell as well.

I'm going to be afk for an hour or something like this. If people think Talis is the better move I'll vote talis, if people think prplhz is the better move I'll vote prplhz. I think prplhz is marginally better and it's only 22:00 my time. Waiting until 23:00 shouldn't be a problem to see what people think.


So ten minutes after he calls Hassy scum, he is saying we should lynch prplhz because Hassy thinks so. What the fuck?

I don't see any motivation for a town Toad to be bolstering the 'lynch prphlz movement' by citing someone who he is actively reading as scum. It's more likely to me that he is scum, and was pushing the prplhz lynch under false pretenses.
ATOBTTR
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
August 09 2012 01:20 GMT
#1202
good luck town
ATOBTTR
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
August 11 2012 01:08 GMT
#1555
ATOBTTR
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
August 14 2012 01:33 GMT
#1720
ATOBTTR
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 01:20:19
August 17 2012 01:19 GMT
#1856
talismania
08-12-2012
07:07 AM ET (US)

son of a bitch

I was going to find out if you guys cloaked this properly before daybreak but never got around to it.

Lucky bastards. (search "zephirdd" in quicktopic's search tool).

Edit: who's the fifth? Hier? Does he even know he's scum?


this was in the scum QT?

e: this googling of QT's needs a solution, like badly
ATOBTTR
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
August 17 2012 01:28 GMT
#1862
kinda upset i crapped out a bad read just before i died >.<

also the lazies/in-actives in this game really diminished what was otherwise a really cool set-up. all those masons...that was definitely new to me.

thanks for hosting BC. thanks marv for bringing home the win
ATOBTTR
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
August 17 2012 05:03 GMT
#1880
I talked about VE's mason target some, if you remember.
ATOBTTR
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