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Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
August 03 2012 11:47 GMT
#272
Toady, stop rephrasing my questions to talis as your own thoughts <3
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
August 03 2012 11:50 GMT
#274
On August 03 2012 20:47 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 11:41 Erandorr wrote:
On August 03 2012 11:39 JingleHell wrote:
On August 03 2012 11:37 Erandorr wrote:
On August 03 2012 11:32 wherebugsgo wrote:
I'm town.

for that matter I'm Roger fucking Sterling, so suck my dick.


lets start this game right

## VOTE: WBG


We don't even have much discussion yet, but you still ignored it. Why?


I am just used to wbg being dead all the time in dota and dont wanna adjust


I am just used to you being bad, so I suppose I shouldn't let my expectations run too high.

That's probably why they gave me the big room and you got the one with the pillar in it.


i love trolling scum bugs
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
August 03 2012 11:50 GMT
#276
he also hurt my feelings and made me cry. can we kill him?
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
August 03 2012 11:54 GMT
#279
On August 03 2012 20:53 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 20:50 Erandorr wrote:
he also hurt my feelings and made me cry. can we kill him?


no worries, I'll be scum when you have feelings worth considering


any reason why you would out VE as mason this early? I mean thats kind of retarded.
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
August 03 2012 12:10 GMT
#283
On August 03 2012 20:59 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 20:54 Erandorr wrote:
On August 03 2012 20:53 wherebugsgo wrote:
On August 03 2012 20:50 Erandorr wrote:
he also hurt my feelings and made me cry. can we kill him?


no worries, I'll be scum when you have feelings worth considering


any reason why you would out VE as mason this early? I mean thats kind of retarded.


Pot calling the kettle black...

Let me break this down into simpler terms for you (and I thought that wasn't possible!)

1. Being a mason isn't alignment indicative (therefore outting a mason is rather worthless)

2. The playerbase of this game will not understand stuff unless it's obviously stated.

3. If we are both town then mafia will strongly consider shooting one of us. Which means that we will make good protects. Which means that it potentially forces mafia to shoot suboptimally.


Sorry wbg, I am just too retarded to understand you.
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
August 03 2012 12:14 GMT
#285
On August 03 2012 21:13 Toadesstern wrote:
I'm more interested in VE's intentions actually.
  • Did he mason someone randomly from the get go? Why wasn't he afraid to randomly hit mafia at all? WBG can be pretty manipulative
  • If it was not from the get-go VE probably had a town-read on WBG. If that's the case VE should have no problem at all telling people why he thinks WBG to be town. Someone masoning without even being able to explain why is the most suspicious thing in the world. So VE SHOULD have told WBG why he thinks that he's town if that's really the case.
  • Did VE explain why he masoned you WBG?


I'd rather have an answer quite quick than giving VE some time to write something up.


At least I am not THAT stupid ! <3
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
August 03 2012 14:30 GMT
#301
Spreading doubt and undermining wherebugsgo.


what in the fuck. prplhz. Could you please explain to me what wbg has done in this game that makes you defend the guy?
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
August 03 2012 14:35 GMT
#310
On August 03 2012 23:32 strongandbig wrote:
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On August 03 2012 23:30 Erandorr wrote:
Spreading doubt and undermining wherebugsgo.


what in the fuck. prplhz. Could you please explain to me what wbg has done in this game that makes you defend the guy?


oh hi erandorr glad to see you're in the thread


?

You probably should read all my other posts before looking like.. well.. yourself really.
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
August 03 2012 14:47 GMT
#314
On August 03 2012 23:31 prplhz wrote:
Why don't you like wherebugsgo?


I feel like im going insane here. WBG outed VE as a mason. Assuming he is town there is absolutely no reason to do that. ever. Read through WBGs explanation to me. Its a big pile of shit

1. Being a mason isn't alignment indicative (therefore outting a mason is rather worthless)

2. The playerbase of this game will not understand stuff unless it's obviously stated.

3. If we are both town then mafia will strongly consider shooting one of us. Which means that we will make good protects. Which means that it potentially forces mafia to shoot suboptimally.



Look at point 1.

He says that masons are not alignment indicative, but at the same time forgets to mention that if VE were town, he just gave scum a free rolecheck on one of the important players.

and at point 3

If they are both town and would actually play like town, they will shoot them anyways. And if they play well they can still ask for protection and point to their pro town play. Outing masons this early is not part of that. its anti town. Look at that point 3 and tell me how that makes any sense at all.

And now answer my question. Why on earth are you defending someone who has not done anything positive at all this game. I would really like to know.
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
August 03 2012 14:48 GMT
#315
oh and

##Vote: WBG
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
August 03 2012 14:53 GMT
#320
On August 03 2012 23:51 strongandbig wrote:
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On August 03 2012 21:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
Erandorr just masoned me. Dunno if he's scum or just dumb though.

Also I didn't ask either of them before outting them.



errandorr I was kind of hoping you would address this without being prompted but...


I wanted to see if he did it again, considering I know my alignment. Its a completely anti town move . Give me one reason why not to hammer wbg right now please.
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
August 03 2012 14:58 GMT
#325
Yo you guys. You actually don't use "reason" or "arguments" you just sit there and talk shit. If you disagree with me, point out mistakes you think I made instead of shitting out terrible posts
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
August 03 2012 15:00 GMT
#326
strongandbig, your posts are completely worthless one liners.
Right now, tell me what you think about what wbg did. Do you agree with him outing the masons? Why do you think he did it? Do you think he is rather town or scum?
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
August 03 2012 15:17 GMT
#334
On August 04 2012 00:06 talismania wrote:
Erandorr what do you think of Glasse?

(again)

also, what do you think of toad and VE?


Sorry , i was busy bashing my head against a wall.

I am leaning town on toad right now, but its not concrete yet.

VE is probably scum with WBG. Its the only real way his move makes any sense. There are other small things I dislike, but I really don't want to focus on him right now. Burn WBG with fire first.

Glasse is more important before he gets lynched by a retard mob.
He is the definition of an easy lynch right now. At least for some people , apparantly. Could he be scum? Sure.
Could he be bad town? Sure. Should we focus on him instead of the proven player who did something completely anti town shits out 1 liners as well? Nope.
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
August 03 2012 15:58 GMT
#344
On August 04 2012 00:56 Glasse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 00:54 Zephirdd wrote:
On August 04 2012 00:24 Glasse wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:45 Hopeless1der wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:34 Toadesstern wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:32 JingleHell wrote:
On August 03 2012 21:13 Toadesstern wrote:
I'm more interested in VE's intentions actually.
  • Did he mason someone randomly from the get go? Why wasn't he afraid to randomly hit mafia at all? WBG can be pretty manipulative
  • If it was not from the get-go VE probably had a town-read on WBG. If that's the case VE should have no problem at all telling people why he thinks WBG to be town. Someone masoning without even being able to explain why is the most suspicious thing in the world. So VE SHOULD have told WBG why he thinks that he's town if that's really the case.
  • Did VE explain why he masoned you WBG?


I'd rather have an answer quite quick than giving VE some time to write something up.


This seemed off because he seemed to have stopped for the night by the time I went to sleep. So, I looked. Sure enough, you start posting a case 7 hours and change after VE's last post, you vote somewhere in the 8ish hour range, and say you want fast answers 9 hours after his last post.

Asking for an answer quick is one thing if he's posting, but this seems a bit pushy. Trying to force the issue with someone who hasn't posted in hours and use that to make them look scummy?

I can't speak for his motives, because they sure as hell don't make much sense to me yet, but yours just seem scummy.

I wanted WBG to answer the questions...

On August 03 2012 23:36 JingleHell wrote:
Ah. My apologies. Maybe I should finish my caffeine, I missed that.


I'd rather have an answer quite quick than giving VE some time to write something up

...Jingle, you can read just fine.




On August 03 2012 23:33 Glasse wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:31 prplhz wrote:
Why don't you like wherebugsgo?



Why are you defending him so much? Is he your scum buddy? All he did so far was randomly call 2 names without any proofs.

All you have done so far is provide a series of one-liners that are non-committal and dismissive towards prplhz's accusations of your actions thus far. He looks significantly more "town than town can be" by comparison, since he's actively pressuring and trying to get discussion out of you.
He asks precisely WHY do you not like wbg, and you throw it back in his face, and expect that to look townie? You kiddin me?
##Vote: Glasse

(I still think we should post our votes in this thread for filter/quoting purposes...just don't pull any fake vote shenanigans plz)



To me, wherebugsgo either called out 2 blues for mafia or both are his scum buddies and he's trying to make them look less suspicious by calling them out.

Right now, neither of the 2 came in the thread to call bullshit on him so it's either 2 blues that don't care they were called out, its probably not 2 random fake call outs at this point, it can be 2 reds and they planned this.

Then he comes in and tries to defend wherebugsgo blindly.

I'll let you decide who is the scum in here.



How do you know they are both blues?


I don't. It can be 1 of each but it was easier to type out like this. I'm lazy and my english isn't very good.


Are you... I don't even...
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
August 03 2012 16:08 GMT
#347
On August 04 2012 00:20 wherebugsgo wrote:
Gotta love 8:30 vision appointments.

For anyone who doesn't know, from my perspective Erandor and VE share two important traits:

One, they both call me scum in every game without fail regardless of their own alignments.

Two, they're both awful as town.

Right now I lean toward Erandor being terrible, since I don't think as scum he'd stop being lazy long enough to form a coherent sentence.


Okay guys. Lets try this again.

First of all I would like you to look at wbgs filter. just for fun. And then explain why most of you seem to think he is town. Point out every pro town thing wbg has done this game.

Then just for a fucking second PLEASE, look at his move to out 2 masons and think of a pro town reason to do that

Now look at this post.

The first thing I would like to point out is that WBG is lying. I don't call him Scum every game. Funny thing with WBG actually , I only call him scum in earnest when he is.. ya know.. scum.

Also notice that he apparantly thinks I am so bad that I am not Scum, but town. He is discrediting everything I say without even answering it. And no, I am absolutely not mad about it , because this is a very typical way for bugs to play scum.
Now WBG, would you please just to enlighten the thread if not me, explain how outing 2 masons is a pro town move? I am really looking forward to that one!
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
August 03 2012 16:12 GMT
#349
On August 04 2012 01:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
-.-

Yes, I am a mason, and no, I didn't give Bugs the okay to out me.

Toad you're insane bro. If you'll read my post again, I was AGAINST masons claiming, prplhz asked me what the point of them claiming was and I explained it to him.

I'm screaming at bugs in a PM, I'll be back in a bit.


Hey man , I asked you some questions yesterday night, could you answer them?
And what do you think about bugs move to out you? Do you think that it is a pro town move?
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
August 03 2012 16:14 GMT
#350
On August 04 2012 01:03 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 00:20 wherebugsgo wrote:
Gotta love 8:30 vision appointments.

For anyone who doesn't know, from my perspective Erandor and VE share two important traits:

One, they both call me scum in every game without fail regardless of their own alignments.

Two, they're both awful as town.

Right now I lean toward Erandor being terrible, since I don't think as scum he'd stop being lazy long enough to form a coherent sentence.


yeah but do you really think he's bad enough to mason you just to see if you would out a mason a second time? I have a hard time buying that.


I asked you some questions would you mind responding ?
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
August 03 2012 16:23 GMT
#353
On August 04 2012 01:20 strongandbig wrote:
also if you're telling the truth about why you masoned bugs then I agree with his assessment of your play.


why?
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
August 03 2012 16:37 GMT
#358
On August 04 2012 01:31 talismania wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 00:39 talismania wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:53 Erandorr wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:51 strongandbig wrote:
On August 03 2012 21:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
Erandorr just masoned me. Dunno if he's scum or just dumb though.

Also I didn't ask either of them before outting them.



errandorr I was kind of hoping you would address this without being prompted but...


I wanted to see if he did it again, considering I know my alignment. Its a completely anti town move . Give me one reason why not to hammer wbg right now please.



can you walk me through your thought process a little more? It seemed like you were against masons being in public given your agreement with toad. So why did you risk outing yourself?



Its a completely anti town move to out people like that without thoughts on alignment or actually any information. They may have been context with VE, but I thought of it as trading my role for confirming wbg as scum. it is that easy.
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