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On July 10 2012 10:42 calgar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2012 07:55 Probulous wrote:My dear newbie, welcome to Newbie Mini Mafia XXI. For your comfort I have written a through OP which has some very important information. If you wish to play, please read it  LoL op is 4 neebz0rz y i read that?!? ... Just kidding, I promise not to be that guy that makes you regret hosting the game. I do have a lot of questions though, mostly about the roleblockers. If the jailer roleblocks the mafia roleblocker, who in turn RBs someone else, I assume the jailer takes precedence? And vice versa, if the mafia roleblocks the jailer who roleblocks someone else? Does a RBd veteran still survive a hit? That one's a stretch but just theoretically... What if the vigilante hits the roleblocker and the roleblocker blocks the vigilante? Also, if the mafia is down to one and is jailed, is KP still 1 even from jail? I think I need a PEMDAS equation here or something.
And also, in case I die early, could I be switched to an observer to neutrally observe the rest of the game?Okay, I'm done 
Once you die, I will send you the obs QT link, so you can join your fellow deceased.
Roleblocks take presedence over everything. Thus if a Jailer is roleblocked, he cannot roleblock. If two roleblockers target each other they will be informed as such. A veteran's ability is passive, that is a roleblock has no effect on their survival. If a vigilante is roleblocked, he cannot shoot. If there is one mafia left and he is jailed, then his kp is blocked.
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Round 2:
I assume it will be apparent whether you have been roleblocked by the jailer or the mafia? Will you provide any more information on the role list - such as whether or not it is randomly generated and whether each role is unique or duplicates are possible?
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On July 10 2012 11:42 calgar wrote:
Round 2:
I assume it will be apparent whether you have been roleblocked by the jailer or the mafia? Will you provide any more information on the role list - such as whether or not it is randomly generated and whether each role is unique or duplicates are possible?
No, you get the same roleblock messages from either role, there may be an infiinite amount of each role but for balance reasons there won't be lots  , the roles are predetermined and there may be duplicates
if Prob lets me I can coach town.
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On July 10 2012 11:42 calgar wrote:
Round 2:
I assume it will be apparent whether you have been roleblocked by the jailer or the mafia? Will you provide any more information on the role list - such as whether or not it is randomly generated and whether each role is unique or duplicates are possible?
If you have been roleblocked, you will get a PM stating so. This is the same if the roleblock came from a jailer or from a roleblocker. Who gets what roles will be randomly generated. I will not provide any more information as to which roles are in the game.
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So I really want to play in this, but I have no time whatsoever. If people thought I lurked bad before, they would see a whole new level of lurking from me. See the thing is, by shear happenstance, I have played in Newbie Mini Mafia games that were 4 apart. I played in NMM IX, NMM XIII, and NMM XVII. NMM XXI would complete my pattern. UGH. Can I be an honorary player or something? You know how colleges give honorary degrees and whatnot, maybe you could do that for me this game?
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On July 10 2012 11:52 Crossfire99 wrote:
So I really want to play in this, but I have no time whatsoever. If people thought I lurked bad before, they would see a whole new level of lurking from me. See the thing is, by shear happenstance, I have played in Newbie Mini Mafia games that were 4 apart. I played in NMM IX, NMM XIII, and NMM XVII. NMM XXI would complete my pattern. UGH. Can I be an honorary player or something? You know how colleges give honorary degrees and whatnot, maybe you could do that for me this game?
How about signing up as a replacement?
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On July 10 2012 11:53 Probulous wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2012 11:52 Crossfire99 wrote:
So I really want to play in this, but I have no time whatsoever. If people thought I lurked bad before, they would see a whole new level of lurking from me. See the thing is, by shear happenstance, I have played in Newbie Mini Mafia games that were 4 apart. I played in NMM IX, NMM XIII, and NMM XVII. NMM XXI would complete my pattern. UGH. Can I be an honorary player or something? You know how colleges give honorary degrees and whatnot, maybe you could do that for me this game? How about signing up as a replacement?
I don't think he can, he played in 4 Newbie games right?
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On July 10 2012 11:53 Probulous wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2012 11:52 Crossfire99 wrote:
So I really want to play in this, but I have no time whatsoever. If people thought I lurked bad before, they would see a whole new level of lurking from me. See the thing is, by shear happenstance, I have played in Newbie Mini Mafia games that were 4 apart. I played in NMM IX, NMM XIII, and NMM XVII. NMM XXI would complete my pattern. UGH. Can I be an honorary player or something? You know how colleges give honorary degrees and whatnot, maybe you could do that for me this game? How about signing up as a replacement?
Yeah, but if I am a replacement, I would still lurk hardcore if I got in. Like I might be able to spend 20 minutes on the game Mon-Wed, 0 on Thurs., and maybe an hour Fri-Sun. Basically if you let me get by with saying one liners to avoid a modkill on Mon-Thurs, I would think about it.
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On July 10 2012 11:56 Bluelightz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2012 11:53 Probulous wrote:On July 10 2012 11:52 Crossfire99 wrote:
So I really want to play in this, but I have no time whatsoever. If people thought I lurked bad before, they would see a whole new level of lurking from me. See the thing is, by shear happenstance, I have played in Newbie Mini Mafia games that were 4 apart. I played in NMM IX, NMM XIII, and NMM XVII. NMM XXI would complete my pattern. UGH. Can I be an honorary player or something? You know how colleges give honorary degrees and whatnot, maybe you could do that for me this game? How about signing up as a replacement? I don't think he can, he played in 4 Newbie games right?
I only played in 3. This would be my 4th. According to my last game, I believe it was decided that the wording in the op says you can sign up if you have been in 3 or less games. This means that this game can be my 4th.
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On July 10 2012 12:01 Crossfire99 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2012 11:56 Bluelightz wrote:On July 10 2012 11:53 Probulous wrote:On July 10 2012 11:52 Crossfire99 wrote:
So I really want to play in this, but I have no time whatsoever. If people thought I lurked bad before, they would see a whole new level of lurking from me. See the thing is, by shear happenstance, I have played in Newbie Mini Mafia games that were 4 apart. I played in NMM IX, NMM XIII, and NMM XVII. NMM XXI would complete my pattern. UGH. Can I be an honorary player or something? You know how colleges give honorary degrees and whatnot, maybe you could do that for me this game? How about signing up as a replacement? I don't think he can, he played in 4 Newbie games right? I only played in 3. This would be my 4th. According to my last game, I believe it was decided that the wording in the op says you can sign up if you have been in 3 or less games. This means that this game can be my 4th. If it is a particularly heated discussion then I don't even think you could catch up on all the posts in 20 minutes  IMO, observing would be a better choice, join back in on 22 if you wish.
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On July 10 2012 12:11 calgar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2012 12:01 Crossfire99 wrote:On July 10 2012 11:56 Bluelightz wrote:On July 10 2012 11:53 Probulous wrote:On July 10 2012 11:52 Crossfire99 wrote:
So I really want to play in this, but I have no time whatsoever. If people thought I lurked bad before, they would see a whole new level of lurking from me. See the thing is, by shear happenstance, I have played in Newbie Mini Mafia games that were 4 apart. I played in NMM IX, NMM XIII, and NMM XVII. NMM XXI would complete my pattern. UGH. Can I be an honorary player or something? You know how colleges give honorary degrees and whatnot, maybe you could do that for me this game? How about signing up as a replacement? I don't think he can, he played in 4 Newbie games right? I only played in 3. This would be my 4th. According to my last game, I believe it was decided that the wording in the op says you can sign up if you have been in 3 or less games. This means that this game can be my 4th. If it is a particularly heated discussion then I don't even think you could catch up on all the posts in 20 minutes IMO, observing would be a better choice, join back in on 22 if you wish.
Honestly, I kind of agree with you. Really I the only reason I posted was because this would have completed my NMM games in style with each one being 4 apart. I loved the pattern so much, I just had to bring it up.
I guess I'll leave it up to Probulous and say that if he absolutely needs me as a last resort replacement, and no one else is going to replace in, and it would really hurt the game if the player was modkilled, then I will think about replacing in only to buy town another day or something. He would still have to say that my posting amount would be ok on Mon-Thurs.
P.S. My schedule is not going to clear up for a while, so waiting until 22 or even 23 is not going to make a difference.
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Thanks for the offer matey. Hopefully we will not need to go down that road. If you aren't sure about being able to post, than it would be best not to sign up. I'll keep you in mind in case we need replacements though.
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On July 10 2012 12:23 Probulous wrote:
Thanks for the offer matey. Hopefully we will not need to go down that road. If you aren't sure about being able to post, than it would be best not to sign up. I'll keep you in mind in case we need replacements though.
No problem. I definitely know it is for the best to not sign up as a regular player. I guess you can consider me as a last resort replacement (other people should definitely be replacements before me if possible). Or you could even think of me as the nuclear option of replacements: you got no other choice and there's a ton of fallout that comes with it, but you have to do it just to survive.
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On July 10 2012 16:13 Acrofales wrote:
Yay! I got blue text!
Use it well.
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the perfect one puts his record on the line.
/in
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On July 10 2012 09:17 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2012 09:10 marvellosity wrote:On July 10 2012 09:09 Blazinghand wrote:
BTW town players feel free to PM me for advice.
I'll be checking on the thread about once every 8 hours. and pretty much constantly between 00:00 GMT (+00:00) and 08:00 GMT (+00:00). The scum coach will be constantly available in the scum thread, proferring advice of his own free will and generally helping out, but I can't help you unless you ask me for help.
Things I'll be glad to help out with:
>When to defend yourself from attacks, what to do to demonstrate you're town, and how to avoid getting sidetracked.
>How to look for clues and what kind of things mark someone as scum, or as town, and how to attack people to generate clues.
>How to formulate a case and get other people on board.
>Where to aim your saves, nightkills or roleblocks if you're blue.
>How to tunnel scum and get SO MANY HOT BABES ITS AMAZING
Things I'll help a medium amount with:
>"Does this guy look scummy to you?"
>Refining reads, how to distinguish a bad town player from a scum player.
>Speculating on the setup.
>Omg Terran OP how do I stop a 1-1-1
Things I won't help out with at all:
>Telling you who else I'm coaching.
>Telling you what's going on in any QTs
>Girls
you're a funny man, Marv.
I'm sure there's something deeper I don't know about but hahahahahahahaha still so funny
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On July 11 2012 01:06 JieXian wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2012 09:17 Blazinghand wrote:On July 10 2012 09:10 marvellosity wrote:On July 10 2012 09:09 Blazinghand wrote:
BTW town players feel free to PM me for advice.
I'll be checking on the thread about once every 8 hours. and pretty much constantly between 00:00 GMT (+00:00) and 08:00 GMT (+00:00). The scum coach will be constantly available in the scum thread, proferring advice of his own free will and generally helping out, but I can't help you unless you ask me for help.
Things I'll be glad to help out with:
>When to defend yourself from attacks, what to do to demonstrate you're town, and how to avoid getting sidetracked.
>How to look for clues and what kind of things mark someone as scum, or as town, and how to attack people to generate clues.
>How to formulate a case and get other people on board.
>Where to aim your saves, nightkills or roleblocks if you're blue.
>How to tunnel scum and get SO MANY HOT BABES ITS AMAZING
Things I'll help a medium amount with:
>"Does this guy look scummy to you?"
>Refining reads, how to distinguish a bad town player from a scum player.
>Speculating on the setup.
>Omg Terran OP how do I stop a 1-1-1
Things I won't help out with at all:
>Telling you who else I'm coaching.
>Telling you what's going on in any QTs
>Girls
you're a funny man, Marv. I'm sure there's something deeper I don't know about but hahahahahahahaha still so funny
Obvious scumslip in bolded red
##Vote: JieXian
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Blazinghand
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On July 11 2012 01:08 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2012 01:06 JieXian wrote:On July 10 2012 09:17 Blazinghand wrote:On July 10 2012 09:10 marvellosity wrote:On July 10 2012 09:09 Blazinghand wrote:
BTW town players feel free to PM me for advice.
I'll be checking on the thread about once every 8 hours. and pretty much constantly between 00:00 GMT (+00:00) and 08:00 GMT (+00:00). The scum coach will be constantly available in the scum thread, proferring advice of his own free will and generally helping out, but I can't help you unless you ask me for help.
Things I'll be glad to help out with:
>When to defend yourself from attacks, what to do to demonstrate you're town, and how to avoid getting sidetracked.
>How to look for clues and what kind of things mark someone as scum, or as town, and how to attack people to generate clues.
>How to formulate a case and get other people on board.
>Where to aim your saves, nightkills or roleblocks if you're blue.
>How to tunnel scum and get SO MANY HOT BABES ITS AMAZING
Things I'll help a medium amount with:
>"Does this guy look scummy to you?"
>Refining reads, how to distinguish a bad town player from a scum player.
>Speculating on the setup.
>Omg Terran OP how do I stop a 1-1-1
Things I won't help out with at all:
>Telling you who else I'm coaching.
>Telling you what's going on in any QTs
>Girls
you're a funny man, Marv. I'm sure there's something deeper I don't know about but hahahahahahahaha still so funny Obvious scumslip in bolded red ##Vote: JieXian
If I am the one who scumslipped, why vote JieXian? It makes no sense. This isn't what a town you would do at all, and you know it! Clearly you are waffling like poopey scum! I poop on you!
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But... but... I waffle far more as town than scum yo :<<<
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