EPTIt is now past 6am my time and I haven't been to bed yet so I'm out.
Risen or strongandbig could you please link me to where it says the sanity of a cop is confirmed. If it isn't confirmed anywhere my plan should be ignored.
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DropBear
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It is now past 6am my time and I haven't been to bed yet so I'm out. Risen or strongandbig could you please link me to where it says the sanity of a cop is confirmed. If it isn't confirmed anywhere my plan should be ignored. | ||
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DropBear
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On July 19 2012 07:12 s0Lstice wrote: Dropbear, did you even try to read Risen's filter to see if his claim made sense? I don't think you did, and that's pretty scummy. I did read his filter. On July 17 2012 07:00 Risen wrote: Sorry dude. I honestly shouldn't be voting for you since I haven't built a case on you. My town reads are voting you, though. #whatacopout Breadcrumb is here. BEFORE talismania's flip. At this point Risen has had only ONE check, which came back as townie. At this point any possible mafia role is in play, including framer. For the life of me I can't see any reason why you would be so obvious at this point. This is also before austin's flip confirming the existence of a mason/masons. Not only this he is under significant suspicion at this point. You yourself were pushing him quite hard. There is no reason why mafia would shoot him before his breadcrumb/claim that I can think of. I don't get the claim at all. | ||
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DropBear
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While both ummed and ahhed about voting for talismania yesterday, gonzaw put his money where his mouth is and voted for him. Keirathi didn't. Keirathi also ran with talismania's terrible case on me day 1, a case which helped get talismania lynched. Still think we should lynch Risen but if it comes to it I will switch to Keirathi. | ||
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DropBear
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On July 19 2012 23:07 s0Lstice wrote: Dropbear, did you read my case on Mattchew? Not yet, I'm reading up. | ||
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DropBear
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Matt's day 1 was atrocious, I agree. I disagree that his pursuit of talismania was different to his pursuit of gonzaw. He seems hell-bent on killing gonzaw as he did with talismania. Your WIFOM points I disagree with and are null to me. The buddying null. The claiming of credit looks bad. The fact that is still alive after the talis lynch is interesting. I am unaware of his reputation having not played with him before, but he did go hell-for-leather to kill the gf. They didn't shoot sciberbia either though and he was the first person to post a case as far as I can tell, so I'm not sure what to think about this just yet. The longer he stays alive the more likely he is scum. You've managed to make me more suspicious of him but I still think there are better candidates for lynch. | ||
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DropBear
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Accused Vivax of being scumbuddies with him here. Talis made his case on me not too long after and almost got me lynched. | ||
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On July 19 2012 23:26 Mattchew wrote: Dropbear what do you think of gonzaw, my case against him, and the most recent points I've brought up Also what do you make of people lying about you pushing Talis ??? I kind of did push talis on day 1, secondary to Vivax though. Same on day 2, I pushed solstice mostly with talis secondary. I never properly committed to a solely talis push, yes, but I brought him up regularly especially on day 1. I think your case against him is ok but not great. Kind of like solstice's case on you. I would lynch Keirathi over gonzaw and unless somewhere Risen has god-forbid actually answered my question, I would take Risen over both of them. | ||
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DropBear
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On July 19 2012 23:05 strongandbig wrote: Wait a minute I was just reading Milton's filter and I saw this He makes a case on Talismania day 1, then jumps off him onto dropbear Then at the start of day 2 he still says dropbear is his top scum read for a large number of reasons, none of which changed when Talismania flipped scum. Note also that dropbear didn't actually vote Talismania despite "going after Talismania" being the main reason people think he's town. I think either dropbear/Gonzaw or dropbear/Milton is the scum team. ##vote: dropbear It is true that I never full on went after talismania. What is also true is that talismania most certainly went after me. | ||
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DropBear
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On July 19 2012 06:40 DropBear wrote: Dude there is no way of confirming either claim beyond a flip. I can see absolutely no reason why you have claimed so early, or for your breadcrumb. You were under suspicion from several people and were unlikely to be shot by mafia. Plus you say you had no scum hits so you had no real important information to give by claiming. I have no idea whether I believe you or not and this is as far as I can tell the only way, given the added complication of Milton's claim. He has all of a sudden exploded into life late on night 2 and I think lynching him would in most permutations give a good or at least minimal damage result, given the roleblocker claim by Milton. | ||
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DropBear
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On July 19 2012 23:52 strongandbig wrote: Okay, this is also true. Not enough for me to put dropbear in the town category but enough for me to unvote him. ##unvote Now dropbear, what if Milton is scum and is lying? Or if he was jail kept for some unfathomable reason? Then lynching risen hurts us enormously. If Milton is scum and Risen is town is the bad permutation of the four I agree. However it still confirms you and solstice. | ||
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DropBear
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On July 19 2012 23:51 s0Lstice wrote: also how are people ignoring the part of my case where Mattchew talks about his read on Risen? --read on Risen is based largely on consistency and logic --is Risen still displaying consistency and logic Mattchew? --not exactly, but that doesnt change my read in any way wtf???? Ok this is interesting. Mattchew? | ||
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DropBear
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1. Firstly, he backs up and sheeps tali's case against me on day 2. On July 14 2012 05:15 Keirathi wrote: DropBear Along with tali, I feel like he was been entirely overaggressive and disruptive with thinks like + Show Spoiler + On July 13 2012 02:58 DropBear wrote: I called him out as being suss last page, do you read boy? 2. His avoidance of voting for tali day 2. He clearly doesn't want to vote for tali, but doesn't give any other options. Not only this he puts in a martyr at the end. On July 17 2012 05:45 Keirathi wrote: Man, missing 90% of the day is frustrating. I'm second guessing everything at this point, and don't have any really strong townie reads. Also I really don't know what I think about tali. There's so many cases against him, and they are all decent, but none of them are damning I think. Maybe enough little things adds up to him being scum, but I remain unconvinced. Almost everything about him is either directly relating to his plan, or relating to things that branched out from his plan. I agree that his plan was really bad and I don't want to support bad play, but like Milton pointed out, he was entirely too invested in it. I don't really see scum as staying that invested into pushing something to intentionally bring attention onto himself. Something about this case and being so little opposition just feels bandwagonny. If I'm wrong, it probably means I get lynched tomorrow because of this post though  3. So who does he vote? On July 17 2012 06:51 Keirathi wrote: Bleh catch 22. Have to vote but I don't particularly feel good about the tali lynch. I don't think its impossible that he is scum, but I'm decently positive he's not. I don't really think Drop or s0lstice are great cases either. So who the eff to vote for. My gut read on a throwaway vote, or the popular read with no conviction?! Who does he vote? sciberbia, the first person to make a case against tali. 4. Next he jumps rapidly onto the gonzaw bandwagon. Sole reasoning here. On July 18 2012 08:09 Keirathi wrote: ##vote: gonzaw Note that a lack of explanation behind a vote was a key reason he voted for me on day 1, this is a double standard. 5. Lastly his ragequit. If he was actually a townie, he's arguing for a deliberate mislynch here. On July 18 2012 16:48 Keirathi wrote: Then fucking lynch me today so you can get past your tunnel vision that you had with Vivax and maybe make an actual good read. I'm serious, as much as I don't want us to lynch a townie today, I would rather Risen not be biased and tunneling me and not trying to find the real scum. ##Vote: Keirathi He mentions the real scum a lot, but his lynch plan was the same as mine, lynch Risen to confirm two townies. No scumhunting there. Also, I have only seen a ragequit like this once before; ilovejonn in mafia 39 who was scum and was backed into a corner so this is what he did. ##Unvote ##Vote Keirathi | ||
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DropBear
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I don't think we played very well. I was unable to communicate with my teammates much due to the time zones and was weak day 1. I think we had a great chance until Mattchew went down, which was very unlucky. The way in which he went down left me with nowhere to turn. I didn't use the RB day 1, wasn't sure who to use it on. We used it on Milton cos we thought he might have been a cop due to this post. My initial post about being concise still stands. Gonzaw posted too much and too long, whereas someone like austin was much better. In my opinion the best town players were austin and solstice. For the record, I sent in a solstice shot tonight before surrendering. I think Milton also had 3 of 4 reads on day 1 from memory? Bugs while I do think we played badly, you are overdoing it a bit. | ||
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On July 21 2012 15:13 Risen wrote: Yup, as I said a tali lynch hit you guys hard. Then hitting matt was pure dumb luck and if I'm being entirely honest i was pushing the lines when it comes to trolling with that vote change to matt. I knew he'd rage if he ended up being scum bc it was like... The dumbest late day wagon I think I've seen with exception to johnnywup's blunder (i will love johnny forever <3) Tali didn't expect his day 1 case on me to go as well as it did either, I did play poorly though. We weren't too worried about the tali lynch though, I think we would have had this in the bag if the wagon on Matt hadn't happened in the way it did. We would have shot solstice, rb'd you and still had all the gonzaw v matt silliness wrecking the thread. Day 3 was such a clusterfuck that we had so much to work with but sadly everything aligned against us last minute. | ||
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