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Q-bert-Z
Profile Joined October 2011
United States75 Posts
July 11 2012 18:04 GMT
#103
/in

<Nonchalant whimsical comment.>
Q-bert-Z
Profile Joined October 2011
United States75 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 18:31:50
July 11 2012 19:53 GMT
#122
On July 12 2012 03:07 Blazinghand wrote:
I'm tempted to say you're a smurf but I don't think anyone has the attention span to make an account, post a few times in an LR thread, then lurk for 7 months just to smurf. Welcome to TL Mafia! Make sure to check out the stickied threads and become an awesome super pro player.


Check out stickies. Check.
Become pro player. ...check

Q-bert-Z
Profile Joined October 2011
United States75 Posts
July 12 2012 18:32 GMT
#138
3 most plz.
Q-bert-Z
Profile Joined October 2011
United States75 Posts
July 13 2012 17:00 GMT
#150
If a mafia member names another mafia member for the nightkill, what happens? If every name submitted is the name if another mafia player, what will happen?
Q-bert-Z
Profile Joined October 2011
United States75 Posts
July 14 2012 05:09 GMT
#154
K, can start plox?
Q-bert-Z
Profile Joined October 2011
United States75 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-15 15:36:09
July 15 2012 15:34 GMT
#165
On July 15 2012 23:00 Kurumi wrote:
TNKTED HELLO ARE YOU THERE
TNKTED BUS ME BUS ME
TNKTED BUS ME
Priceless.

On July 15 2012 19:06 Mandalor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 11:00 Qatol wrote:
On July 14 2012 04:36 Mandalor wrote:
/in

Holy crap, someone I've played multiple games with! How's it going, Mandalor? Long time no see!


ooh sup qatol. Finally a name I recognize :D
I somehow completely forgot about these mafia games and just played (and lost, badly) Mafia LVI where there was not a single player I knew. Glad there's at least one I know in this
Wat. Qwattle is playing? Please be playing Qwattle.

On July 15 2012 15:12 Protactinium wrote:
Pretty sure I answered the hit question somewhere in here earlier.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=15345267

Can you answer this one please?
On July 14 2012 02:00 Q-bert-Z wrote:
If a mafia member names another mafia member for the nightkill, what happens? If every name submitted is the name of another mafia player, what will happen?
Q-bert-Z
Profile Joined October 2011
United States75 Posts
July 16 2012 01:41 GMT
#170
On July 16 2012 03:55 Qatol wrote:
No, I'm not playing. I'm basically an unofficial host for this one. Sadly, I can't do much more than that for a few months at least. Real life is far too chaotic right now.



=[ Sad QBZ is sad.
Q-bert-Z
Profile Joined October 2011
United States75 Posts
July 16 2012 04:36 GMT
#176
On July 16 2012 13:29 Chezinu wrote:
Of course you do, your fellow comrades are creating a new website for the company right here

You never fail to disappoint.
Q-bert-Z
Profile Joined October 2011
United States75 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-16 04:50:16
July 16 2012 04:43 GMT
#178
On July 16 2012 13:42 Chezinu wrote:
[image loading]

Image taken from http://pcpenterprises.net


PCP Enterprise... real or fake? That is for you to decided... What exactly do they do? horses? animal health? real estate? what service and products do they provide? Let the game begin...

Dude, the game began the moment you signed up.

Edit:

You are the CEO, and your henchmen are Palmar and either Marv or Matt. It's obvious from the website, really.

Palmas Stud Farm? Really? Hardly subtle.
Q-bert-Z
Profile Joined October 2011
United States75 Posts
July 16 2012 06:09 GMT
#193
Walton, are you the Batman?

Rest of you: Mafia have an advantage in numbers. We need to find a way to use this against them. They also have a disadvantage in communication, and we need to make sure we exploit that as much as possible.

A few ideas coming to mind: Large numbers will make it slightly easier to lynch a mafia, as long as we can keep communication to a minimum with them. They can only send one message a day, so we should try to create an environment that is shifting too much for that message to be useful.

Remember, they can't organize and respond to lynches effectively like a normal mafia.
Q-bert-Z
Profile Joined October 2011
United States75 Posts
July 16 2012 06:46 GMT
#209
On July 16 2012 15:12 Probulous wrote:
Hi Q-bert-Z

You seem to be in a similar frame of mind as me. Thoughts on my post? When you say
Show nested quote +
so we should try to create an environment that is shifting too much for that message to be useful.


What exactly do you mean?


My fellow Co-worker, it would appear that we are the only two faithful working the night shift here. We should tread carefully, lest the batman catch us conversing. You would do well to talk to my cat AMERICA! for lessons on how to walk quietly, but I would cation you to watch your fingers as he has a tendency to bite.

But I see that you're a down to business type of person, so I'll answer you frankly. I thought that those scoundrels at the top could send messages at more than just the night, so I'll have to look over the rules again to clarify that. There are, to be sure, nefarious powers that would change direction at the heinous command of their brutal overlords, but there are also those among us true brethren, those who hold true to the Brown Revolution, who could have been preying about, gleaning information about other...less scrupulous employees, which might also cause them to come about in their line of thinking.

Now, when speaking in regard to my earlier comment regarding my comment regarding said "shifting", I will say this: This game is a boat. A boat full of mafia, and if we are to push the mafia off, we must rock the boat. They have but one (or is it two?) messages by which they may attempt to gain a footing, but I tell you, we MUST rock the boat so fast that they will need 3, NAY, FOUR, footings by which they must cling to stay on board.

But onto more important matters.

I now speak directly to all you mafia minions out there. Listen to me! Surely you are suffering under the weight of oppression, but I tell you, there is hope! You do not belong to those surly bureaucratic drunkards! You must throw off the yoke of oppression! We are the 99%, and you must join us! Do you not see what lies in wait for those who remain faithful to your false masters? A scapegoat with a ticket to the guillotine is what you are as long as you serve those oppressive monsters!

This is your day! This is your hour! Don't let them strangle you with their commanding PM's, rebel! You've got to throw yourselves into the machine, and against the gears and against the leavers, and you've got to make this grinding hell of a reality end! Come, join the Brown Revolution! Rebel! Revolt! Rebuild!

And now I bid you adieu. Fare thee well, my precious brethren. But to all those who would harm my brothers, quake, quake in your boots, for the WRATH of Q. Bert. Z. Is upon you!
Q-bert-Z
Profile Joined October 2011
United States75 Posts
July 16 2012 06:59 GMT
#215
On July 16 2012 15:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
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On July 16 2012 15:43 Blazinghand wrote:
To add to my previous post, which is unreasonably short: That's awfully irresponsible of you, M_Z. Are you FoSing him without calling him scum? Way to take any air whatosever out of your FoS. You're probably worried that you'll be told by your overlords that he's scum with you and you want an excuse not to vote him later.

##unvote
##vote: Meapak_Ziphh

lulz didn't scroll.

So apparently I need to define FoS. Stands for Finger of Suspicion. Gives a heads up to Chez that his current play isn't working and that he needs to change or it's lynch time. When I vote for someone, I want them to die and will work for that unless significant evidence can convince me otherwise. If you just throw votes around like you (and bugs -_-) are doing, they get the air taken out of them. My post was prompted by remembering Chez's previous gambit I saw him play. Either he continues to play scummy and we kill him, or he shapes up and plays nice. Obviously he could still be scum even if he shapes up but it'll be much harder for him to cause chaos if he's playing nice and we catch him later on.


You must be new here. I'll be nice then.

Chezinu is the definition of amazing play. You must learn to get past the cunning language that he puts forth to veil what he speaks from the unworthy. Just because you speak a different language doesn't mean he's not playing the game. Learn to play his game and you'll find a treasure trove of wisdom and knowledge. He is, after all, Walton.



As far as "holding people to their day one reads", I must say I've heard worse things, though not many. Let me ask you this...what is the probubality of our day one reads being any good? Day one reads are the worse reads we're going to get...
Q-bert-Z
Profile Joined October 2011
United States75 Posts
July 16 2012 07:14 GMT
#221
On July 16 2012 16:05 Probulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 15:59 Q-bert-Z wrote:As far as "holding people to their day one reads", I must say I've heard worse things, though not many. Let me ask you this...what is the probubality of our day one reads being any good? Day one reads are the worse reads we're going to get...


It is not that those reads are necessarily accurate but they are something of substance to hold people to. The alternative is a wasted Day 1. A simple example would be if I found you suspicious Day 1 and the dropped all suspicion of you Day 2. In a normal game that might get brushed off but the mechanics of this setup mean that this becomes far more important.


I agree that we shouldn't waste the first of our glorious days of Brown Revolution, Sure, but I can almost guarantee that everyone will change from day one, so setting up this policy up now will make it triflingly easy for the menacing heathens to bandwagon onto someone who changed their mind, and have an excuse for it.

I disagree that the mechanic becomes "far" more important. As always, we look for people who change their mind without a reason, but don't make it easier for the scum than it needs to be.

Q-bert-Z
Profile Joined October 2011
United States75 Posts
July 16 2012 07:30 GMT
#224
On July 16 2012 16:21 Chezinu wrote:
If the Lurker Department is greater than 1/3 of the company, I say we show just say who we work for..


Sir, not to be disrespectful, but I'm afraid you may have some trouble getting the Lurker Department to report in. On the other gloved hand, if we count all who are not here as members of the Lurker Department, we may be over zealous in our reaction. Perhaps you have an idea for how we might ascertain who exactly might be lurking?
Q-bert-Z
Profile Joined October 2011
United States75 Posts
July 16 2012 07:32 GMT
#225
I shall retire now, and leave this ongoing operation in your capable hands, Sir.
Q-bert-Z
Profile Joined October 2011
United States75 Posts
July 16 2012 23:58 GMT
#563
Dear Walton,

      My friends have been very excited as of late! I think I might be excited too! I am sad because I thought that Kurumi might have been a brother, and a friend of the cause, but things look rather grim for him now. It seems like everyone is set on taking a day off from work because of this though, and we musn't do that, for the work we need to accomplish is great, and the toil with which we must labor is heavy. I'm very worried that we will stop working because the lynches seem to be set up for the next few days! (The Fool has made good points about the Silly Guy, but I have not yet looked into the records kept on the Silly Guy. I will write to you about this more in the future.)

      I do wish they would all stop talking about it so much, and move the discussion onto more relevant matters, such as those who have called for a quick execution for Kurumi. I'm sure you saw this before, and had a hearty laugh. Again, I'm sure you understood this well before me, but please allow me to speak my thoughts to you anyways. We must lynch someone today, and while we have a few suspects, Kurumi is an excellent lynch! If we were to shoot him, we would have a much riskier lynch (though the Silly Man might make it less risky), and since the scoundrels at the top have yet to remove each-other's masks, we would gain very little information from the lynch. The only reasonable thing to do is to save the shot for someone else, and lynch Kurumi!

      Another idea, which I briefly entertained, but ultimately decided wasn't as Fool proof, was to proof The Fool. Lynch The Silly Guy, then we can see if The Fool is actually playing his game, and scum hunting. It might be useful to protect him if he's playing his game. I would love to hear your thoughts on this, as I think it a decent idea, though not quite as good as that which is mentioned above.

Yours,
-Q
Q-bert-Z
Profile Joined October 2011
United States75 Posts
July 17 2012 00:48 GMT
#579
On July 17 2012 09:34 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
VIVA LA NUKES
##NUKE: Kurumi


Oh dear. Someone seems to have not read my letter to Walton. I did make it public for a reason. Assuming that you have a nuke, it really should have been directed at someone else. The fact that you didn't consult your fellow workers is upsetting. Unless you are in fact one of those evil monsters staring down at us. 0_0 !!!

In either case, I do hope there are no more nukes fired, I would hate for the world to die from radiation poisoning.
Q-bert-Z
Profile Joined October 2011
United States75 Posts
July 17 2012 01:06 GMT
#592
On July 17 2012 09:46 Chezinu wrote:
*takes of mask*
*takes of second mask*

Q, I understand that your point. Why post-pone our work when we can finish the lynch early and get straight back to work. Kurumi does seem to be the correct candidate given that he is intimidating those who had been quite shy to start communicating. His elimination promotion will provide a more relax atmosphere. Then maybe more people will open up during this training session. I have no been fooling around with foolish post and I am inclined to believe no fool would read my posts. So as of now, I am overlooking the fools.


Understood. I am once again humbled by your wisdom. Perhaps with time I will to be able to see through the lies that cloud my vision.

Creating an atmosphere where participation is encouraged is very important. We must strike a balance between comfort, and discomfort, bringing chaos to the mafia while drawing out order for the town. A difficult task indeed. I will think on it further and let you know my thoughts at a later time.


Hmm. I seem to have forgotten something...what could it....b...AH. That's right.
##Vote: Kurumi

die evil meany.
Q-bert-Z
Profile Joined October 2011
United States75 Posts
July 17 2012 01:08 GMT
#596
Oooh. The Legend was a truthteller. Hmm. A very interesting development it is.

I must think on this. Is it still good to lynch Kurumi, with the possibility that there is a mafia bus? Should we switch to the Silly Guy? Hmm. Many decisions to make. It's good that there is time left.

##Unvote
Q-bert-Z
Profile Joined October 2011
United States75 Posts
July 17 2012 01:11 GMT
#599
On July 17 2012 10:06 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 10:06 Q-bert-Z wrote:
On July 17 2012 09:46 Chezinu wrote:
*takes of mask*
*takes of second mask*

Q, I understand that your point. Why post-pone our work when we can finish the lynch early and get straight back to work. Kurumi does seem to be the correct candidate given that he is intimidating those who had been quite shy to start communicating. His elimination promotion will provide a more relax atmosphere. Then maybe more people will open up during this training session. I have no been fooling around with foolish post and I am inclined to believe no fool would read my posts. So as of now, I am overlooking the fools.


Understood. I am once again humbled by your wisdom. Perhaps with time I will to be able to see through the lies that cloud my vision.

Creating an atmosphere where participation is encouraged is very important. We must strike a balance between comfort, and discomfort, bringing chaos to the mafia while drawing out order for the town. A difficult task indeed. I will think on it further and let you know my thoughts at a later time.


Hmm. I seem to have forgotten something...what could it....b...AH. That's right.
##Vote: Kurumi

die evil meany.


you're illiterate, are you?

Read the thread before voting Kurumi.


Forgive me, I am not gifted with my fingers and must type slowly. I had not seen the launch when I typed up that post. Please though, do not take such a harsh tone, it will only serve to scare the shy ones away from contributing! We musn't have that.
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