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On July 17 2012 04:08 Mattchew wrote: More evidence against Katina. She pushes Palmar for wanting the RL but doesn't mention Hiropro who also came out in favor of it. She says that she doesn't like Palmar's defense with his "I hate you guys" and "I dont want to talk to marv anymore" post but then posts this to me WBG said here (LVI Obs) the way to catch Katina She ignores others in favor of RL and she contradicts herself about Palmars defense with her own completely lacking defense On July 23 2012 10:30 Mattchew wrote: I said it before using a WBG quote on how to quote her. I think she is accusing people for things other people (or herself) are doing. I don't think a lot of the things in her cases are logical and she was told by wbg (in advice to improve her scum play) to make more cases on more people, which I think she's forced out this game. This and this? The RL thing was only a small part of Katina's case on Palmar, hardly a case of treating people differently for doing the same thing. Your second post is very late into the game - yet do you provide any specific examples or discuss in detail? No, you're merely content to say "this is way to catch katina, katina has been caught she is scum". You keep commenting "yea katina is scum" and saying we should vote for her, but do you say anything about her later behavior or posting or analyze it? No, all you do is tell other people "compare Katina's play this game to other games" and say "Katina is my strongest scum read" All of your posts on other people are very superficial. You make a comment on one small thing, say that they are scum, and then just pretty much do nothing. You see that your candidates are not up for lynch, yet you do not put effort into pushing them or seriously convincing others of their guilt. | ||
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On July 25 2012 01:58 marvellosity wrote: Whose guilt have you been convincing us of then Hiro? ^^ BH and Zealos are the guys I've been most sure of being scum this game. If you do not get what I am talking about with regards to Matt, look at his view on MZ for example. He calls MZ scum in the very beginning, then has proceeded to do nothing about it. After day 1 all he ever does with MZ is include him on ever single scum list he makes. He's not talking at all about what MZ is posting. | ||
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Everything Mattchew has ever said about MZ since day 1. I call this doing nothing about it. + Show Spoiler + On July 19 2012 00:01 Mattchew wrote: If I could have one wish, it would be to see these people dead in the upcoming daypost Kurumi - sandroba out'd scum Katina - read my filter Meapak_Ziphh - Prob pointed out how timid and passive he was posting Rastaban - Literally just looking out for himself Foolishness - this is not the play of someone that has been voted the best scum hunter on TL Bill Murray Chezinu On July 20 2012 01:32 Mattchew wrote: Cool your scum too.... this is not that hard... woulda covered your tracks better without the wah wah waaaaaah For those keeping score at home Scum = Foolishness Kurumi VE Rastaban Katina MZ maybe chez? On July 20 2012 07:42 Mattchew wrote: Cool add zealos to the list Scum = Foolishness Kurumi Zealos VE Rastaban Katina MZ On July 24 2012 23:59 Mattchew wrote: Syllo style working backwards time layabout sloosh HiroPro Bill Murray Gonzaw Meapak_Ziphh austinmcc Katina rastaban marvellosity risk.nuke Q-bert-Z Zealos I took out all dead people, and anyone I consider strongest town reads (syllo super prob VE chez) Next lets take off the list people I dont think are possible lynches for today (this will be biased) Bill Murray austinmcc risk.nuke marvellosity Gonzaw This leaves us with layabout sloosh hiropro Meapak_Ziphh Katina Rastaban Q-bert-Z Zealos With me believing Sloosh's claim and Q-bert-Z's excuse This leaves our remaining scum team probable Execs - MZ and Foolishness's Girlfriend probable minions - layabout, hiropro, Rastaban, Zealos On July 25 2012 02:05 marvellosity wrote: Alright... you're up for lynching Zealos tomorrow then? Yes. | ||
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On July 25 2012 02:14 slOosh wrote: Anyone have thoughts on this? Only austin sort of addressed this: Only the traitor can actually decide whether or not revealing themselves will actually help town. If they think they can get more info, they should stay hidden. If they have some actual evidence on other scum members than they should reveal themselves. | ||
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On July 25 2012 02:18 supersoft wrote: We are not lynching Zealos tomorrow. We lynch Meapak Explain the case to me then please. | ||
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On July 25 2012 02:51 syllogism wrote: He has been very passive and his behavior near day 1 lynch deadline was quite suspicious. First he wanted to switch from BH to Gonzaw because mattchew's vote was "stuck" on gonzaw. He also stated that he was fine with lynching either BH or Gonzaw and cites Sandroba's support being one of his reasons for support gonzaw lynch. However, after the no-lynch he started the blame game in a very noncommittal manner, vaguely alluding to people responsible for the gonzaw wagon when BH and austin wagons were "well established". Now, who is responsible for Gonzaw wagon? Sandroba and Probulous, the former who is considered nearly confirmed town by this point! He also says people who "threw their vote away" are also under scrutiny, but they certainly didn't come under any scrutiny from Mr. Meapak. It's also worth nothing that Meapak hadn't voted at all until he showed up 45 minutes before the lynch when BH wagon was the dominant one. He had to vote, so he pretty much had no choice but to vote BH at the time. It doesn't get much more passive than this: At the time Meapak is still sure that BH is mafia (though for some reason he writes a case on Rastaban instaed), but right after saying he thinks Zealos is mafia he weakly asks BH to write a case on Zealos. Now he, just like Palmar was, is barely posting and doesn't seem to care at all. Ok, I think your points about MZ starting the blame game on people who started the gonzaw wagon when he himself relied on sandroba's read on gonzaw and not following up at all on people "who threw their vote away" are good. And MZ is a more likely executive than Mandalor/Zealos. I'm fine with lynching MZ tomorrow. On July 25 2012 03:03 Katina wrote: To answer a question I saw a few pages back, I'm not really leaning for sure Mafia on Syllo anymore after I went through his filter a while ago. I'm more of a null read on him right now and I wouldn't be up to lynch him at this moment since I have found others who are much more scummier to me. I don't think it's a good idea to lynch Zealos (atleast not right now) As I said there are others that should be lynched instead right now. I feel strongly for a sloosh or gonzaw lynch as I have state before. I have seen some talk sbout Meapak and I wouldn't mind that either (Since he's on my list) but as for Zealos he hasn't been around for awhile so I will hold off on that until I see more from him. His filter can go either way... Either Mafia or misguided townie (I'm not positive on which one like Mattchew) Katina, why is mattchew a "misguided townie"? | ||
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##Vote Gonzaw | ||
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On July 25 2012 23:52 marvellosity wrote: what is your read on gonzaw?? It's pretty null. "Is not reading…., seems to have put some effort into his reads on Foolishness/supersoft, defends Palmar with dumb reasoning…" | ||
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I'd definitely prefer lynching slOosh over gonzaw. | ||
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We are setting up a counterclaim. Check out WBG's C9++. The CEO tells me that we have stuff in place to resolve everything. It is likely that you will quickly be found out - that is ideal, it adds credibility; however, you must remain alive long enough for the other pieces of the plan to fit. This makes it seem like supersoft is a fake... | ||
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