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Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 20 2012 00:27 GMT
#1901
On July 20 2012 09:15 HiroPro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 08:57 Probulous wrote:
On July 20 2012 08:50 marvellosity wrote:
I would not be surprised. I could easily think of a townie being obstinate and saving their nuke on the basis that Kurumi was going to die anyway. And there's probably other silly reasons too.


Well we will know by the end of the day. If there is no nuke sent at Zealos then we have no nuke. This is why I want to know if there are still people who think BH is scum. Either I can explain my logic to them and save them the hassle of tunnelling a likely town, or they can point out to me why I am being stupid, or they are scum. It's a win-win-win.


What is your logic?


Why would scum need a nuke blocking ability? Kurumi is the only person who had a nuke (assumption but lack of other nuke so far makes me confident on this), he is likely scum from his actions. Ergo, why would mafia need a nuke blocking ability. Bare in mind they only have 6 power roles, one of which is apparently a nuke. So that leaves 5. Giving them a useless role would be really detrimental to them.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3575 Posts
July 20 2012 00:28 GMT
#1902
On July 20 2012 09:24 Probulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 09:22 Zealos wrote:
On July 20 2012 07:34 sandroba wrote:
Man this is fun.

I messaged Zealos yesterday before the day post. He never revealed he got pm. I just got confirmation that the pm was sent and Zealos has posted twice since then. So yeah fun times.

Wait, was I meant to reveal?


ROFL he stated it quite clearly that he wanted that person to claim they received the PM before the deadline

You mean when he said he'd messaged a scum player?
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HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 20 2012 00:30 GMT
#1903
On July 20 2012 09:27 Probulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 09:15 HiroPro wrote:
On July 20 2012 08:57 Probulous wrote:
On July 20 2012 08:50 marvellosity wrote:
I would not be surprised. I could easily think of a townie being obstinate and saving their nuke on the basis that Kurumi was going to die anyway. And there's probably other silly reasons too.


Well we will know by the end of the day. If there is no nuke sent at Zealos then we have no nuke. This is why I want to know if there are still people who think BH is scum. Either I can explain my logic to them and save them the hassle of tunnelling a likely town, or they can point out to me why I am being stupid, or they are scum. It's a win-win-win.


What is your logic?

Kurumi is the only person who had a nuke


I'd rather not assume this. But we'll see I guess.
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 20 2012 00:30 GMT
#1904
@slOosh

You've been in game a while now. I value your opinion ever since that god aweful mini, so what are your reads? So far your filter is just discussing other people's ideas. Any of your own?
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 20 2012 00:31 GMT
#1905
I need to stop writing and scrapping posts after midnight.

On July 20 2012 08:44 Probulous wrote:
Does anyone still think BH is mafia?

Cause for the life of me I can't believe that mafia would need a blocking ability if they have the only nuke. Given they only have six power roles, it would needlessly weaken them. We know town don't have a nuke because Kurumi is still alive.

I think he is still disruptive and spammy which mafia have an interest in being whilst town do not. Mind you i always think that.

On July 20 2012 09:12 Probulous wrote:
Ok since you guys are here, thoughts on QBertz?

Note to self: QBertz is acusing people of lurking whilst being useless himself.


We should kill Q-Bert-Z, he is posting like he has made up his own restiction which mafia have reason to do. But i would rather kill zealos, gonzaw and syllogism first.


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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 20 2012 00:32 GMT
#1906
On July 20 2012 09:30 HiroPro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 09:27 Probulous wrote:
On July 20 2012 09:15 HiroPro wrote:
On July 20 2012 08:57 Probulous wrote:
On July 20 2012 08:50 marvellosity wrote:
I would not be surprised. I could easily think of a townie being obstinate and saving their nuke on the basis that Kurumi was going to die anyway. And there's probably other silly reasons too.


Well we will know by the end of the day. If there is no nuke sent at Zealos then we have no nuke. This is why I want to know if there are still people who think BH is scum. Either I can explain my logic to them and save them the hassle of tunnelling a likely town, or they can point out to me why I am being stupid, or they are scum. It's a win-win-win.


What is your logic?

Kurumi is the only person who had a nuke


I'd rather not assume this. But we'll see I guess.

Because it is wrong. RoL had a nuke too - but it was a dud. 2 Nuke powers and 2 anti-nuke powers. Which one of the anti-nuke powers is soviet production though?
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Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 20 2012 00:32 GMT
#1907
On July 19 2012 03:11 sandroba wrote:
And BTW scum I already messaged one of you. If the person I messaged doesn't reveal he got messaged until the end of this night I'm gonna know he/she is scum for sure. GL figuring it out, I put great effort into it =)


Yes he called you scum, but note the bold. He wasn't sure until you didn't answer.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
July 20 2012 00:33 GMT
#1908
On July 20 2012 09:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 09:18 marvellosity wrote:
On July 20 2012 09:12 Probulous wrote:
Ok since you guys are here, thoughts on QBertz?

Note to self: QBertz is acusing people of lurking whilst being useless himself.


Your note is good enough. I have a hatred for people who post like that anyway. If I were offered right now for him to be dead or alive, I'd choose dead.


Why? WHY? ARGH this is like the third game you've said this in! I LOVE it! Like, yeah okay - it makes reading him harder. But I mean - so? That's the point of the game! I have my own strategy for making myself harder to read (trying to post the same way as Town/Scum and post A LOT)...why the hate for Chez' strategy?

And do you think he's scum? Or is that like, a Policy Lynch? Because your phrasing leaves that pretty ambiguous doesn't it?


Because if you're town you shouldn't be making reading you as town harder, that's retarded.

From LVI obs QT

DrazerkPerson was signed in when posted
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12:45 PM ET (US)
And that is why I purposely fuck with my own Meta to make me unreadable

wherebugsgo
07-13-2012
06:26 PM ET (US)
Drazerk when you fuck with your own meta you get mislynched as town (or destroy discussion) so you're part of the problem anyway.

Anyway, from his lack of actual scumhunting he's probably scum. I found his post having a go at gonzaw quite misplaced as well. And sure it was ambiguous. If I were a traditional vigi I would have shot him night 1.
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syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 20 2012 00:35 GMT
#1909
On July 20 2012 09:31 layabout wrote:
I need to stop writing and scrapping posts after midnight.

Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 08:44 Probulous wrote:
Does anyone still think BH is mafia?

Cause for the life of me I can't believe that mafia would need a blocking ability if they have the only nuke. Given they only have six power roles, it would needlessly weaken them. We know town don't have a nuke because Kurumi is still alive.

I think he is still disruptive and spammy which mafia have an interest in being whilst town do not. Mind you i always think that.

Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 09:12 Probulous wrote:
Ok since you guys are here, thoughts on QBertz?

Note to self: QBertz is acusing people of lurking whilst being useless himself.


We should kill Q-Bert-Z, he is posting like he has made up his own restiction which mafia have reason to do. But i would rather kill zealos, gonzaw and syllogism first.



It's amazing that there still people who likely aren't mafia who want to kill me. Sandroba when you have time yell at people some more please so I don't have to waste time later on with this
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3575 Posts
July 20 2012 00:36 GMT
#1910
On July 20 2012 09:32 Probulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 03:11 sandroba wrote:
And BTW scum I already messaged one of you. If the person I messaged doesn't reveal he got messaged until the end of this night I'm gonna know he/she is scum for sure. GL figuring it out, I put great effort into it =)


Yes he called you scum, but note the bold. He wasn't sure until you didn't answer.

Based on the content of the message it made it sound like he knew I was town. I dunno, it didn't exactly seem to make any sense to reveal that I was messaged, but whatever, the logic is pretty dumb anyway.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
July 20 2012 00:36 GMT
#1911
So, how about you just give us the message Zealos ^^
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3575 Posts
July 20 2012 00:37 GMT
#1912
Right now people are starting to talk about you, but I suspect that if you put in a little bit of time soon they will forget. Town has a lot to go through in terms of lynch, so if you shape up even a little bit I'm sure they will soon forget. If you have any useful abilities from your role please try to crumb it subtly during the next day so in the next message I can suggest you how to use it. Hopefully this communication problem will be gone by tomorrow.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 20 2012 00:38 GMT
#1913
On July 20 2012 09:27 Probulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 09:15 HiroPro wrote:
On July 20 2012 08:57 Probulous wrote:
On July 20 2012 08:50 marvellosity wrote:
I would not be surprised. I could easily think of a townie being obstinate and saving their nuke on the basis that Kurumi was going to die anyway. And there's probably other silly reasons too.


Well we will know by the end of the day. If there is no nuke sent at Zealos then we have no nuke. This is why I want to know if there are still people who think BH is scum. Either I can explain my logic to them and save them the hassle of tunnelling a likely town, or they can point out to me why I am being stupid, or they are scum. It's a win-win-win.


What is your logic?


Why would scum need a nuke blocking ability? Kurumi is the only person who had a nuke (assumption but lack of other nuke so far makes me confident on this), he is likely scum from his actions. Ergo, why would mafia need a nuke blocking ability. Bare in mind they only have 6 power roles, one of which is apparently a nuke. So that leaves 5. Giving them a useless role would be really detrimental to them.

Protactinium posted that Kurumi shot a nuke and that RoL shot a nuke. We know they shot nukes. We do not know if anyone else has nukes, but are assuming they do not.

BH has claimed to be able to block a nuke. We do not know if he actually has this power. VE has (fakeclaimed, for funsies?) to be able to block a nuke. We do not know if he actually has this power.
Fe fi fo fum.
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 20 2012 00:38 GMT
#1914
On July 20 2012 09:36 Zealos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 09:32 Probulous wrote:
On July 19 2012 03:11 sandroba wrote:
And BTW scum I already messaged one of you. If the person I messaged doesn't reveal he got messaged until the end of this night I'm gonna know he/she is scum for sure. GL figuring it out, I put great effort into it =)


Yes he called you scum, but note the bold. He wasn't sure until you didn't answer.

Based on the content of the message it made it sound like he knew I was town. I dunno, it didn't exactly seem to make any sense to reveal that I was messaged, but whatever, the logic is pretty dumb anyway.


So when someone sends you a message and then publicly states that if you don't reveal it they know you are scum, you think it makes no sense to reveal the message.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 20 2012 00:38 GMT
#1915
On July 20 2012 09:37 Zealos wrote:
Right now people are starting to talk about you, but I suspect that if you put in a little bit of time soon they will forget. Town has a lot to go through in terms of lynch, so if you shape up even a little bit I'm sure they will soon forget. If you have any useful abilities from your role please try to crumb it subtly during the next day so in the next message I can suggest you how to use it. Hopefully this communication problem will be gone by tomorrow.


sigh

That's clearly designed to look like a scum message Zeal. :/
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3575 Posts
July 20 2012 00:40 GMT
#1916
On July 20 2012 09:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 09:37 Zealos wrote:
Right now people are starting to talk about you, but I suspect that if you put in a little bit of time soon they will forget. Town has a lot to go through in terms of lynch, so if you shape up even a little bit I'm sure they will soon forget. If you have any useful abilities from your role please try to crumb it subtly during the next day so in the next message I can suggest you how to use it. Hopefully this communication problem will be gone by tomorrow.


sigh

That's clearly designed to look like a scum message Zeal. :/

wow.
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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3575 Posts
July 20 2012 00:40 GMT
#1917
I didn't read into that at all. That was super dumb.
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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3575 Posts
July 20 2012 00:41 GMT
#1918
But why send me a message made to look like a scum message? o.O
I'm confused.
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Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
July 20 2012 00:41 GMT
#1919
On July 20 2012 08:53 Probulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 05:22 Foolishness wrote:
Syllogism is mafia ... Someone needs to redirect that nuke at marvellosity.

Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 06:39 Foolishness wrote:
Day 1 nuke is a Kurumi-esque thing to do, but I've said that before about him when he's mafia. I want the nuke redirected at marvellosity because he's mafia.



A lot has been said about Foolishness' disinterest in this game. His read of BM is

If Fool was convinced Syllo is scum because he didn't follow up on his read, why is this all Fool has to say about Marv? He wanted to nuke him because he was mafia, but never bothers to go back to that read. That is exactly the same thing he was calling Syllo scum for at exactly the same time.

So Foolishness, do you still think Syllo is mafia? If so, why are exhibiting exactly the same behaviour?

Yes I still think he's mafia. He's been exhibiting what I call HiroPro syndrome as of late: just subtly push any and all cases that come up. marvellosity likes to do that too. I'm more sure about Bill Murray than syllogism.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 20 2012 00:42 GMT
#1920
Syllo, what do you think of Risk and QBertz?
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
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