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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 17 2012 23:25 GMT
#996
On July 18 2012 08:25 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 08:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm rereading the whole thread guys, THE WHOLE THING! ^^

Let's all do it, together!

I'm up to the part where Palmar suggests a RL...riveting.

On July 16 2012 20:16 Palmar wrote:
edit: forgot the link: http://www.palmar.org/mafia/random.txt


Like, it's bound for failure and he knows it too, but he suggests it anyway. Remember that? Good times.

I'm wondering where QtheZ and Walton are during all this REALLY SERIOUS lynch discussion....as into this game as their roleplaying seems to indicate, they don't seem to be doing much to "rock the boat" for scum if that was their intention, and they're certainly not participating in the discussion of this stuff.

Anyway, I digress. Back to reading.

You just haven't gotten to the part where they agreed it is time to set order to the chaos... It was a really great story!


I'M STILL READING!!!! SPOILERS!!!!!
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 17 2012 23:42 GMT
#1003
On July 18 2012 08:36 Probulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 08:31 gonzaw wrote:
About austin:

I don't get why he's obsessing so much with sandro's role. I'd understand having that first suspicion if he actually believed something was wrong (like in that post I mentioned), but he spent posts and posts and posts dealing with sandro's claim and ability and it clogged up the thread too much.
I don't get why he'd do that as town, specially since his doubts of sandro's claim were dealt with by other people, he didn't need to keep cluttering things up with it.
There are little things that don't make me confident in him being scum, like some of the confidence he seems to have in his posts, and the fact that he "overposts" like this as town.
I'm not that confident in lynching him, but I think he has more chances of flipping scum than BH.

##Unvote: Foolishness
##Vote: austin


I don't see MZ being scum after skimming his filter.
Damn I don't have much time for this, this game is huge :/
After I come back from the gym I'll post more thoroughly


I'd be much happier with a Gonzaw lynch.


I'm warming to the idea myself. I can only take so many times hearing "God guys! So many posts! I don't have time for this! I'll be back when I have more time!"

I'm rereading Prob, you probably don't have time to join me but it's probably a good idea considering everything that's happened. I'm up to my dashing entrance into the fray. ^^
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 17 2012 23:50 GMT
#1009
Chezinu what do you think about layabout and risk.nuke sir? You don't have to tell me that their post-count is low - I'm aware.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 17 2012 23:54 GMT
#1012
On July 18 2012 08:52 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 08:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
Chezinu what do you think about layabout and risk.nuke sir? You don't have to tell me that their post-count is low - I'm aware.

aww then I can't say than one is laying about lurking and the other is risking getting nuke... ok, I'm going to actually have to think for this one... (and read their posts for the first time?)


Actually, your puns were appreciated. But yeah, I'd like you to read their posts and give me an opinion. Don't worry, won't take long.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 18 2012 00:10 GMT
#1019
Because I think he scum.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 18 2012 00:13 GMT
#1021
Who is John Galt?

I'm willing to consolidate but right now I feel he's the best choice because of how he acted early game with the kinda scumhunting (re: Chez) and then the silliness in trying to get Palmar to answer a question (re: you).
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 18 2012 00:19 GMT
#1029
All I took from this is that you don't want to lynch either of them, which is what I was after in the first place. Thx Chez.

<3
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 18 2012 00:20 GMT
#1030
On July 18 2012 09:19 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 08:50 HiroPro wrote:
Where is Foolishness -_-

Deciding where to move my vote to. This is chaotic guys.


I opted out and decided to reread. It's fascinating, some of the strangest things are jumping out at me.

Details at 11.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 18 2012 00:26 GMT
#1037
On July 18 2012 09:25 marvellosity wrote:
you're on drugs if you think 13 more people are gonna vote gonzaw in the next few hours


I can be swayed. Palmar seems interested.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 18 2012 00:28 GMT
#1041
*counts on fingers...slowly, as to not miss a single digit*

Hmmmm.....

*starts over*

Yeah, I guess you're right. But if I tell two friends and if he tells two friends, that's like....

*counts again...even slower this time...*
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 18 2012 00:50 GMT
#1063
And meta. Don't forget Probulous' meta analysis. ^^
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 18 2012 00:51 GMT
#1065
Chez gonzaw gogogo.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 18 2012 02:08 GMT
#1094
You're not being lynched for not having time, you're being lynched for repeatedly promising to get to this game and failing to deliver...all the while having time to come in and comment about the size of the thread and how many posts there are and HOW LONG it's going to take you and develop reads on two players who have ZERO chance of getting lynched.

But you know, potato potahto.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 18 2012 03:14 GMT
#1115
Because he came back and apologized to the hosts, obviously. :/
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 18 2012 17:22 GMT
#1365
Anyone arguing about the lynch is ridiculous. It's everyone's fault, equally. We're all bad. We should have had 1) our target and 2) his/her counterwagon decided at least 12 hours before deadline...but it's D1 and we didn't, so there you have it.

Foolishness, syllo seems to be your strongest read. Whatever happened to the Foolish that was like

On January 17 2012 13:28 Foolishness wrote:
READ CAREFULLY! DON'T LOSE THIS POST! REPOST MANY TIMES

I am making this post as a way of compiling the thoughts of the few people in this game who are making sense and posting good analysis. A lot of it will be my own thoughts, but it's heavily based on a few people (should be obvious) who are the most transparent and the most obvious townies.

9 Mafia remaining. Here's the preliminary suspects: Macpo, GGQ, L. These are the people I feel we have the best case for and most of the transparent people in the thread seem to agree about these 3. Personally I think GGQ is town and we should avoid lynching him for now. Protact already gave viable reasons why Macpo is better than GGQ today, and I feel there is little to argue there. sandroba pointed out how L is acting like in Ver's game, and I couldn't agree more. We also have Incog's analysis against L.

Secondary suspects: Bill Murray, chaosquo, evantrees. These 3 people have garnered attention from a few people but not from everyone, so they are listed as secondary candidates. I am of the belief that all 3 of these people are mafia. evantrees is already mentioned by Incog. I think Cyber_Cheese highlighted a good summary of chaosquo here. Most of it is similar arguments to Macpo.

Bill Murray as red? I think so. Others have cast suspicion but there's not been a full analysis anywhere. A few people have commented that the election "feels" weird in some way, and I definitely sympathize. The votes for Bill Murray come across as the most suspicious: lots of random votes there. Personally I was surprised he even got into office (remember I was out all day so I saw the results without reading the previous 20 pages). I do realize I may have initially pushed him into candidacy, but I shall take responsibility for that and see to it that he's lynched in the near future. But to be simple: Bill Murray posted a lot, and got into office. Since then he's been pretty passive at the helm (so has BC I realize). That's good enough reason to warrant a ton of suspicion, as he should be actively scumhunting and posting without fear at this point.

Remaining mafia candidates: Jackal, Opz, kingjames, zeks. Incog has an analysis against Jackal as we know. I am not on board with him being mafia yet. Traditionally when he is mafia he posts paragraphs, and not one-liners. However he warrants suspicion for having an apathetic attitude.

Opz is someone who I believe Sheth was the first to cast doubt on, and I must say Sheth is definitely onto something. I know of the past Opz as a town player who is aggressive, not afraid to call people out on their bullshit. That's something we aren't seeing much of this game. He's posted a few of his own thoughts, but there is a clear lack of effort. Bored townie who is facepalming at having to read 100 pages? Possibly. Mafia hiding in the shadows? Fits better.

kingjames is called out on by Incog, and there's further analysis by BC. His last sentence is the perfect sum to kingjames: "The key thing to note is that in contrast to his town play where he is outgoing and analytical, his posts in this game are very subdued, seem artificial and feel overly planned." kingjames has yet to do anything to contradict this.

zeks I felt strongly about yesterday, he made a bad post which is nothing like his normal outspoken attitude (though it's been a while since he's played I think). He has since asked for a replacement and hasn't posted, but should still be looked at in the future.

Meapak_Ziphh is someone I would like to throw out there as a candidate (which shouldn't be a surprise from the few of my recent posts). What has Meapak done this game? Tried to get GGQ lynched, and unfortunately that's about all he's tried to do. There is a very aggressive push from him to kill this guy, which I find a little suspicious and slightly out of character.


Mafia: Macpo, GGQ, L, Bill Murray, chaosquo, evantrees, Opz, Kingjames, Meapak_Ziphh.

Substitute a few off candidates and I think we've found our 9: Jackal, BrownBear, zeks, Munk-E, other random inactive player goes here.

DONT LOSE THIS POST ITS SO IMPORTANT!

Writing all that I think the usefulness of this post is immediately made clear. The most prominent townies and the ones doing the analysis are all right on most of their reads. It's just each person has found 2-3 mafia on their own, and most of the time they are all different. Pooling this information together I realize it's hard to call anyone and their analysis wrong, as when you analyze the big picture everything fits together.

Anyone in their right mind would look at this game and think "wow this atmosphere is perfect for the mafia". Ver once told me that lots of times it's easier to find the mafia when the town atmosphere sucks because they will not be the ones causing chaos and disruption. Instead they will be sitting on the sidelines enjoying the show while the townies flail around. Look at all the names I've listed above. Everyone (yes everyone on that list) is guilty of apathy and does not have the interests of the town in mind. They are not thinking long term, or analyzing the big picture. They aren't playing the game, they are watching.

Macpo

Many others have said so, and though I may be biased, I still think it's best we lynch him today. I believe his case is still by far the strongest we have at the moment, especially since he has responded to his threats (with even more reason to kill him). At the time of writing GGQ has yet to say anything. We kill him (Macpo) today and spend the night figuring out who has the next best case. In the meantime, I'm going to be looking for connections between the above players to see if anyone can be ruled out or automatically included.

IF YOU HAVE FINISHED READING AND YOU ARE A COMPETENT TOWN PLAYER PLEASE READ AGAIN

Also, after sifting through this information, I feel we have a strong enough lead to start killing like there's no tomorrow.
##Vote: double lynch


....trying to push his strongest read? Huh? Huh? Tell me that it's because you were communing with other scumhunters and your reads were stronger by way of discussion. TELL ME THAT SO I CAN GET REALLY ANGRY ABOUT YOU PLAYING LOL INSTEAD OF DISCUSSING YOUR READS WITH US YESTERDAY.

No one's asking you to disassemble the scumteam again this game, but I for one was really looking forward to playing with you because of the above post from the last game I played with you (where I didn't die 17 seconds into the game...I'm never getting over that shit ). Play with us bro. Don't listen to people blaming you for a nolynch.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 18 2012 17:24 GMT
#1367
You too Sand, stop freaking out about it. That's what they want.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 18 2012 17:28 GMT
#1370
Yeah I'm with you there Sand. Should Kurumi not meet his destiny tonight, I say we gun for Foolish hard tomorrow.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 18 2012 17:28 GMT
#1372
EBWOP

Should Kurumi meet his destiny tonight....if he doesn't, we have to lynch him obviously. -.-
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 18 2012 17:38 GMT
#1381
What smart posts are getting ignored?

And why are you complaining about people [REDACTED] [REDACTED] around with their votes when you weren't here to do anything about it yourself?

:/
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 18 2012 17:54 GMT
#1392
I was here for most of it. I was on gonzaw ultimately and if I were here I don't know that I would have changed to BH.
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