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On July 26 2012 06:24 gonzaw wrote:
Hmm, austin, what exactly do you think of Katina then?
She's not posting a ton, but I'm tending to like what she posts?- On Palmar early, stays with him although isn't pushing him harder than various D1 candidates or Kurumi D2.
- Wary of Foolishness and Syllogism both, even though they're sniping at each other, so choosing not to buddy up slightly with either.
- Her second list is pretty nice - + Show Spoiler +
On July 19 2012 12:20 Katina wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 10:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I have had my vote stolen for the entire cycle.
Also I really don't like the idea of not killing kurumi today. The last thing we need to do is give up an easy scum kill. It doesn't matter if your vote was stolen, just vote. Why would we give up an easy kill? It will narrow down the scum count, that's what we need to win as town. If Kurumi doesn't die people are just going to derp around and be unfocused because he IS still alive. With him dead that's one less distraction and we can focus on the other scum such as: Mattchew Foolishness Palmar Blazinghand Syllogism Bill Murrary - Wants D2 thread not shit up, people staying on Kurumi, which I read townie. BH sort of trying to get a Zealos push going, Katina doesn't budge.
- Chez has a decent point about why would mafia put their pants on their heads
- Palmar wants her shot - + Show Spoiler +
On July 22 2012 00:47 Palmar wrote:
if you can shoot tonight kill foolishness, syllo, katina, BM, zealos etc
I'll be around later (although he also wants Foolishness shot there)
The only thing bugging me about her is Kurumi asking for her reads, and Katina responding that she has no town reads. Hopefully that isn't still the case. Post heavily edited to get question/answer
On July 21 2012 08:47 Katina wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 08:34 Kurumi wrote:
Katina, mind listing your mafia and town reads?
Im going through your filter and there's a lot of mafia lists but you never seem to call anyone town...
You are trying to control the chaos in the thread, but you simply don't have the presence or authority to do so. Why not pursue it harder? Why not pursue it more gently? Do you really care? You want my reads? Okay: Mafia: Foolishness, Mattchew, Palmar, Blazinghand, Syllogirm, BM (as clearly stated) Those reads have no changed. Town: I have no idea... Once I get a good town read that I'm confident in I will let you know.
I'm also more likely to compare her to LVI, since I played there and only read Liar Game. Some stupid comparisons:
In LVI, her first page of filter has 10 !s. Here it has 5, and only in two playful posts.
In LVI, she deflected Bugs and I, but no OMGUS. Here, after more pressure from Mattchew, she's finding him scummy (Not conclusive of anything)
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On July 26 2012 07:11 syllogism wrote:
We still have over 24 hours yes.
Gonzaw: it has to do with your approaches. In Zealos' case you dismiss every explanation that might explain his behavior even if he is town and in Sloosh' case you dismiss every explanation why the play makes sense from mafia perspective. The claim is so suspicious, that the inconsistency and flat out refusal to lynch sloosh combined with your eagerness to lynch zealos is why I am not willing to believe you are town.
Unsurprisingly sloosh voted meapak rather than gonzaw
I already posted why I'd like to lynch Zealos, it's not about his "claim" alone, but it plays a very good part.
And I do take into consideration explanations on why Zealos might have behaved like that as town (just being very dumb? I haven't really seen any of those "explanations" you were talking about), but I don't believe them.
I did take into consideration explanations why sloosh's play makes sense from a mafia perspective but I don't believe them either (that he was trying to get in a better position after Foo's flip because he defended Foo' at one point, etc, I already explained why).
It's possible sloosh is scum, but not just because of his claim, which at worst I find null.
I'll reread his filter once I can.
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On July 26 2012 07:15 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2012 06:24 gonzaw wrote:
Hmm, austin, what exactly do you think of Katina then? She's not posting a ton, but I'm tending to like what she posts? - On Palmar early, stays with him although isn't pushing him harder than various D1 candidates or Kurumi D2.
- Wary of Foolishness and Syllogism both, even though they're sniping at each other, so choosing not to buddy up slightly with either.
- Her second list is pretty nice - + Show Spoiler +
On July 19 2012 12:20 Katina wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 10:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I have had my vote stolen for the entire cycle.
Also I really don't like the idea of not killing kurumi today. The last thing we need to do is give up an easy scum kill. It doesn't matter if your vote was stolen, just vote. Why would we give up an easy kill? It will narrow down the scum count, that's what we need to win as town. If Kurumi doesn't die people are just going to derp around and be unfocused because he IS still alive. With him dead that's one less distraction and we can focus on the other scum such as: Mattchew Foolishness Palmar Blazinghand Syllogism Bill Murrary - Wants D2 thread not shit up, people staying on Kurumi, which I read townie. BH sort of trying to get a Zealos push going, Katina doesn't budge.
- Chez has a decent point about why would mafia put their pants on their heads
- Palmar wants her shot - + Show Spoiler +
On July 22 2012 00:47 Palmar wrote:
if you can shoot tonight kill foolishness, syllo, katina, BM, zealos etc
I'll be around later (although he also wants Foolishness shot there)
The only thing bugging me about her is Kurumi asking for her reads, and Katina responding that she has no town reads. Hopefully that isn't still the case. Post heavily edited to get question/answer Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 08:47 Katina wrote:On July 21 2012 08:34 Kurumi wrote:
Katina, mind listing your mafia and town reads?
Im going through your filter and there's a lot of mafia lists but you never seem to call anyone town...
You are trying to control the chaos in the thread, but you simply don't have the presence or authority to do so. Why not pursue it harder? Why not pursue it more gently? Do you really care? You want my reads? Okay: Mafia: Foolishness, Mattchew, Palmar, Blazinghand, Syllogirm, BM (as clearly stated) Those reads have no changed. Town: I have no idea... Once I get a good town read that I'm confident in I will let you know.
I'm also more likely to compare her to LVI, since I played there and only read Liar Game. Some stupid comparisons: In LVI, her first page of filter has 10 !s. Here it has 5, and only in two playful posts. In LVI, she deflected Bugs and I, but no OMGUS. Here, after more pressure from Mattchew, she's finding him scummy (Not conclusive of anything)
If you look at MTG when I pressured her she did the same OMGUS type thing
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You do realize mafia make bad claims all the time and then they get lynched? I'm pretty sure you do
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I mean Palmar just did a poor claim and flipped mafia, which you of course ignored
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On July 26 2012 07:19 syllogism wrote:
You do realize mafia make bad claims all the time and then they get lynched? I'm pretty sure you do
Palmar was being lynched... sloosh was not... that impacts things heavily
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sloosh was in no danger to be lynched at all when he claimed, Palmar was already lynched at that point basically.
sloosh's claim didn't push a scum agenda at all, he just claimed and then forgot about it, why the hell would he fake-claim as scum?
Yes, scum make bad claims at times but there are reasons behind them (for instance those Toad/VE claims from LI, they were bad but they served to shit up the thread and stuff), but I don't see a reason for an under-the-radar-at-that-point scum sloosh to fake-claim he hit the CEO when he knew he was going to be cc'ed and then never doing anything else about it.
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sloosh maybe thought that BH killed Foolishness. And his claim was shitty. He'll flip scum, too after we've lynched MZ and gonzaw...
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I didn't even see sloosh trying to push a supersoft lynch.
Unless you think he thought someone else was going to cc? Maybe marv or something, and he could push his lynch afterwards?
Even that seems too risky to do as scum
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sloosh didn't push my lynch, because he knew that I was saying the truth. You basically delivered a good point there. Thanks!
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On July 26 2012 07:28 supersoft wrote:
sloosh didn't push my lynch, because he knew that I was saying the truth. You basically delivered a good point there. Thanks!
ah what am I speculating about. Sloosh is so obviously scum. Look at his reaction in general to my CC.
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On July 26 2012 07:25 supersoft wrote:
sloosh maybe thought that BH killed Foolishness. And his claim was shitty. He'll flip scum, too after we've lynched MZ and gonzaw...
Wouldn't he have waited before other people posted before doing that?
Hmm, it's possible though.
But why claim a stupid "delay-vig" with a "stupid" condition instead of straight up claiming town dreamflower in that case? If he thought BH was the one that shot Foo', and he flipped scum dreamflower.
Hm, if he claimed town dreamflower, and he believed the "mirror roles" thing being discussed, then he would have known he'd be cc'ed by a real town dreamflower.
Hmm could be though...
I'm still not sure, the claim may seem "shitty" but it's too risky to do so as scum if he didn't know who shot Foo' and just "hoped" BH did it.
Unless he's minion/Executive and the CEO/Executive told him to do that, in which case maybe BH did shoot Foolishness after all and they planned that since the beginning, but supersoft shot him too fucking up their plan.
Well then again they wouldn't have known VE was going to kill BH, which would give sloosh the opportunity to fake-claim the guy that actually shot Foo' if BH did shoot him as well :/
Unless it was a spur-of-the moment sloosh did right when BH died.
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I guess it makes more sense though, I didn't think of the possibility of a scum sloosh planning for BH to kill Foo' or something (although that still seems like a stupid plan, to kill the CEO on N2).
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hey i am going to bed now.
Votecount is 5:6 in favour of Gonzaw.
If you don't claim within the next 5 minutes. My vote is on you and I'll go crazy if anyone doesn't move his vote on you.
A nolynch is no option for me, just to make that clear.
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On July 26 2012 07:36 supersoft wrote:
hey i am going to bed now.
Votecount is 5:6 in favour of Gonzaw.
If you don't claim within the next 5 minutes. My vote is on you and I'll go crazy if anyone doesn't move his vote on you.
A nolynch is no option for me, just to make that clear.
Are we going to go through the same shit from Bang Bang?
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On July 26 2012 07:36 gonzaw wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2012 07:36 supersoft wrote:
hey i am going to bed now.
Votecount is 5:6 in favour of Gonzaw.
If you don't claim within the next 5 minutes. My vote is on you and I'll go crazy if anyone doesn't move his vote on you.
A nolynch is no option for me, just to make that clear. Are we going to go through the same shit from Bang Bang?
I already realized that you try to mirror this play.
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On July 26 2012 07:38 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2012 07:36 gonzaw wrote:On July 26 2012 07:36 supersoft wrote:
hey i am going to bed now.
Votecount is 5:6 in favour of Gonzaw.
If you don't claim within the next 5 minutes. My vote is on you and I'll go crazy if anyone doesn't move his vote on you.
A nolynch is no option for me, just to make that clear. Are we going to go through the same shit from Bang Bang? I already realized that you try to mirror this play.
I didn't shoot you back then. I disagreed with marvels shot. Now back to this game. Claim now or die. You have no option :-/
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gotta run... might be back on tonight, but most likely i'll be back like 14 hours from now
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I won't let you bully me into claiming again.
I still don't see any purpose to do so.
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On July 26 2012 07:38 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2012 07:36 gonzaw wrote:On July 26 2012 07:36 supersoft wrote:
hey i am going to bed now.
Votecount is 5:6 in favour of Gonzaw.
If you don't claim within the next 5 minutes. My vote is on you and I'll go crazy if anyone doesn't move his vote on you.
A nolynch is no option for me, just to make that clear. Are we going to go through the same shit from Bang Bang? I already realized that you try to mirror this play.
What?
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