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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
July 22 2012 06:35 GMT
#2621
Ok, guys. Do you seriously believe that I have the ability to put on masks and play as both mafia and town at the same time. Do you think the hosts would really give me a troll role that mimics the way of the brown? Come on do you believe someone like Ver would be a co-host in a game where Chezinu is given different powers every half cycle and different win conditions every half cycle?Seriously guys?! Seriously? You believe that? why would they do that, you think having a Chezinu 2000th post in exchange for a troll role is worth the laughs after everyone finds out? Do you think they would risk their reputations? seriously guys, seriously...
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
July 22 2012 07:05 GMT
#2622
serious time,

The chairman of the board now has the power to decide the kills. However, it did not come without a loss. The chairman of the board as you know it has lost a valuable minion, BlazingHand. May he rest in pieces. Now is not the time for moaning for we have greater threats ahead of us. We have a leader that knows less than half the core. If the chairman does not prove his capabilities, the chairman of the market may strike. We cannot afford another rebellion at this time. For now is the time of war. As you have heard it many times before from a variety of worlds, war never changes.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 22 2012 07:45 GMT
#2623
On July 22 2012 14:05 slOosh wrote:
Awesome on two counts!

I am a Crazed Employee - basically a delayed 1 shot vig, and I targetted Foolishness last night. As you know I've been spending a majority of my time figuring him out and was wavering because he had a good case on BM which I agree with, yet chose to do exactly that a case on BM. I was torn on trying to figure out meta and trusting people's reads, but VE's grilling brought out cold hard, in-thread contradictions that I understand and trust.

Probulous I'm assuming is some sort of kingmaker (?) - and he made VE king to lynch BH. Prob has also said that Chezinu is some sort of rolecop:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 10:47 Probulous wrote:
Time to read that Ole foolish filter. I don't think Chez is scum. He worked out my role but never outed it. I think he can check the names of roles because he correctly emphasised the first three letters of mine to me and only me.

Prob is it clear from your role name what your ability is? Because from a minion perspective, the knowledge of someone's role is hard to use - even if you knew someone was blue you can only submit the name to CEO kill list, and outting something like that isn't a town thing to do in the first place. But I also thought he was some sort of messenger role?

Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 03:23 VisceraEyes wrote:
On July 22 2012 02:20 Palmar wrote:
I haven't caught up since last night. Did Chez ever claim messenger role?

The way Chez does, yes. And he sent me a message so...

I forgot who said it (was quite recently) that scum and town may have mirror/similar abilities. Sandroba was a clear instance of a town messenger - use ability to find out scum. Chezinu or whoever is sending seems like they are sending messages of confusion (house of Chezinu etc.). In any case I still have to do more rereading & filtering in light of the new information influx.

Lastly, I think that the traitorous employee should claim. As I understand it it's like a self-aware miller who wins with town but numbers count with scum. Since mafia have to kill all town they are torn having a "confirmed town" alive and wasting their 1 KP on a useless kill (doesn't count to their wincon), and have lost their means of instantly killing him, plus the possible additional benefits of seeing scum strategies and redacted knowledge through outed PMs can be huge.



You didn't kill foolishness.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 22 2012 08:58 GMT
#2624
shit, sandroba was town
thanks for making me realize he flipped
that means chezinu was telling the truth
--;;
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 22 2012 09:00 GMT
#2625
Chezinu is right. We have come to war.
We have to come to this war prepared!
Not with pitchforks, but with politics.
When I am more sober, expect a case from me *nods*
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 22 2012 09:34 GMT
#2626
On July 22 2012 14:05 slOosh wrote:
Awesome on two counts!

I am a Crazed Employee - basically a delayed 1 shot vig, and I targetted Foolishness last night. As you know I've been spending a majority of my time figuring him out and was wavering because he had a good case on BM which I agree with, yet chose to do exactly that a case on BM. I was torn on trying to figure out meta and trusting people's reads, but VE's grilling brought out cold hard, in-thread contradictions that I understand and trust.

How is that delayed?
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
July 22 2012 09:58 GMT
#2627
On July 22 2012 18:34 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 14:05 slOosh wrote:
Awesome on two counts!

I am a Crazed Employee - basically a delayed 1 shot vig, and I targetted Foolishness last night. As you know I've been spending a majority of my time figuring him out and was wavering because he had a good case on BM which I agree with, yet chose to do exactly that a case on BM. I was torn on trying to figure out meta and trusting people's reads, but VE's grilling brought out cold hard, in-thread contradictions that I understand and trust.

How is that delayed?

I think he means last night=night 1. As in the night before the last night.

ss, what do you mean sloosh didn't kill him? Did you?
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 22 2012 10:12 GMT
#2628
yes i shot foolishness and i am the towndreamflower.
However it's possible, that be both shot him. vigs dont get their bullets back when 2 shot the same target.
But I still don't buy it.
He didn't shoot foolishness.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 22 2012 10:22 GMT
#2629
I don't like how he spends a whole paragraph explaining why he shot him. If he shot him, it's likely that he would be more confident as there is no reason to assume someone else shot him and thus little reason to explain his rationale in such detail. He doesn't seem confident at all. He also never posted anything in-thread that indicated he was "wavering" or changing his mind on foolishness.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 22 2012 10:32 GMT
#2630
yes. his claim looks extremely fake. i bet crazed employee is his fake-PM.
All scummembers have a fakePM i bet his is that crazed employee.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 22 2012 10:51 GMT
#2631
why are you voting palmar and not your direct counterclaim, supersoft?
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 22 2012 10:53 GMT
#2632
when sloosh said "Because from a minion perspective, "
i thought it was fishy
im willing to vote him with you, supersoft
if you killed Foolishness, you need to vote him
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 22 2012 11:09 GMT
#2633
@mod can i get a prod on GGQ? He hasn't posted in 6 days, and over 70 pages of content.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 22 2012 11:14 GMT
#2634
Original Message From Protactinium:
Nope

Show nested quote +
Original Message From supersoft:

hey one question: if 2 vigs shoot one target, does the vig, who sent in his shot later, get is bullet back


because my counterclaim doesn't confirm him as scum.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 22 2012 11:23 GMT
#2635
i mean, really? you expect there to be that much town KP?
nuke...
kingmaker...
2 vigs?
not buying it.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 22 2012 11:23 GMT
#2636
i guess there ARE (were) 9 scum, though
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 22 2012 11:24 GMT
#2637
but, yeah, i'm stealing sloosh's vote, and seeing if he has any unused powers i can use (then we'll know he's lying)
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 22 2012 11:30 GMT
#2638
On July 22 2012 20:24 Bill Murray wrote:
but, yeah, i'm stealing sloosh's vote, and seeing if he has any unused powers i can use (then we'll know he's lying)


i agree with that.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 22 2012 12:09 GMT
#2639
On July 22 2012 19:12 supersoft wrote:
yes i shot foolishness and i am the towndreamflower.
However it's possible, that be both shot him. vigs dont get their bullets back when 2 shot the same target.
But I still don't buy it.
He didn't shoot foolishness.


why would he claim if he knew he was going to get counter-claimed? he would want some kinda 1 for 1??
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 22 2012 12:18 GMT
#2640
On July 22 2012 21:09 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 19:12 supersoft wrote:
yes i shot foolishness and i am the towndreamflower.
However it's possible, that be both shot him. vigs dont get their bullets back when 2 shot the same target.
But I still don't buy it.
He didn't shoot foolishness.


why would he claim if he knew he was going to get counter-claimed? he would want some kinda 1 for 1??


the question is, did he know that you don't get your bullets back. I posted it earlier, but more like a question.
if you know that, it's no 1v1.
The problem I have with him, is the way he claimes his shot.
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