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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On July 21 2012 09:18 Probulous wrote: I have no grapes but I do have silverware. Is the kitty soft? :p Probulous...my friend. You're my friend aren't you? Please take this small token of friendship. It is but a trifle, but it was mine and now it is yours. | ||
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Chezinu
United States7448 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
I'm in the "Lynch Foolishness" camp tomorrow. | ||
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Chezinu
United States7448 Posts
On July 21 2012 09:20 sandroba wrote: I propose people that like to play mafia in intelligent, logical games join me in my new win condition. I don't care if you are mafia or not, you are welcome to join. We must eliminate all terrible irrational players from this game. Sign me up! the bandwagon on kurumi was stupid! I asked people repeated why they are voting for him. I even stated that the best move for mafia would be not to kill him. looks like we got a good mafia CEO. go go foolishness? who else is smart but distant? cause I can't accuse people too close to me or I might die... So, Let's end the irrationality! | ||
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Chezinu
United States7448 Posts
On July 21 2012 09:23 VisceraEyes wrote: The CEO likely doesn't know who picked what Chez. He probably gets a list and is made to choose one from the list, as it says in (under) the OP. I'm in the "Lynch Foolishness" camp tomorrow. oh wow! you were thinking the fool too! | ||
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
On July 21 2012 09:20 Chezinu wrote: The CEO will most likely choose from two suggested hits. The suggested hit by the chairman of the board or the chairman of marketing. If you are on the good side of both of these, you want have to suffer the chance of getting killed. If both the chairman of marketing and chairman of the board choose the same person.. then that person is going to die.. Um does the CEO know who suggests what? Fro my reading he just would just get a compiled list. Unless there is a secret communication in thread for scum to list who their target is... | ||
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Chezinu
United States7448 Posts
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On July 21 2012 09:23 VisceraEyes wrote: The CEO likely doesn't know who picked what Chez. He probably gets a list and is made to choose one from the list, as it says in (under) the OP. I'm in the "Lynch Foolishness" camp tomorrow. So you think Blazinghand is town then? | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
1) VisceraEyes http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349678&user=117978 2) Blazinghand http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349678&user=133498 3) austinmcc http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349678&user=119148 4) GGQ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349678&user=38664 5) Q-bert-Z http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349678&user=223024 6) Bill Murray http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349678&user=54241 Here are the true scum of this game and the evidence against them. Join me in my crusade! | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
No I think Blazinghand is less likely to flip Executive than you. | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
Think that's good for town? Or would I be playing too IRRATIONALLY AND STUPIDLY if I did something like that? | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
This game requires half of the thread to agree on a lynch. Kurumi is + Show Spoiler + On July 21 2012 04:31 Kurumi wrote: If you wanted to make me angry, consider yourself successful. Fuck you. he was angry that syllogism proposed that he could do this as town And yet there are 5 votes not on Kurumi! We are going to need focus more and we are going to need to stop joking around with votes and thread actions. Palmar and Foolishness are calling syllogism mafia. Syllogism in turn is calling both Palmar and Foolishness mafia. Many of you insist on speculating that the host will have made the CEO one of these players (or sandroba or Meapak). It is always dangerous to make decisions based upon out-guessing the host. But if we are aiming to kill the CEO we should plac e our attention on those 3 players. If we are looking for the person most likely to flip scum tomorrow we need look no further tahn our good friend zealos. I defended him initially but his actions since then show that he is either a mafia or a townie that isn't playing. READ: On July 19 2012 06:27 wherebugsgo wrote: + Show Spoiler [snip] + Okay, several things: I can confirm that there is at least one messaging power that can be used on townies. I received this after the daypost: Congratulations! You tripped down some stairs and hit your head. When you woke up, you realized that you were actually a member of the House Chezinu! That's right! You are now part of the third party, House Chezinu! The first order of business is to get out there and make it known to the world! You'll need some more members to get this really rolling, so spread the word and get recruiting! Once a cycle, you may recruit someone. Simply type "##Recruit: <name> in the thread, and you will be able to recruit a new member! You may use this ability once per day! (Once per cycle, at night) However, you may only have a total of three members besides yourself. You're part of House Chezinu, so you're above win conditions. (You're already part of House Chezinu, what more do you need to win?) But maybe you can unite the workers in a glorious revolution! P.S., There's no House Chezinu like a house with Chezinu. Just sayin. And I confirmed with the host that this is a player-sent message. Secondly we have two near-confirmed scum in Kurumi and Zealos. If you're a vig or you have any sort of night KP it might be a good idea to kill them given that tomorrow will likely be a wash if they're alive. Before sandroba revealed that he had messaged zealos WBG considered zealos to be as likely scum as Kurumi. He did not explain his reasons explicitly but he expressed this opinion and we would be wise not to forget it. It's useful to have a meta assessment so: On July 19 2012 10:19 HiroPro wrote: Why would a townie essentially make up a reason. Bear in mind that Zealos has show that he has no desire to come up with good reasons when scum (in MTG when I was mafia teammates with him, he argued that he had zero scum reads d1 and so he just voted for his least townie person. he then proceeded to lurk until halfway through night 1 and then appeared with a case on zelblade who was basically just a lurker based entirely on evidence that would have been available to him when he made his d1 vote.) What was the most sgnificant event during day1? + Show Spoiler [Answer] + The great sandroaba-Kurumi debacle of course! This one event outed Kurumi as scum. Now town should take a scum lynch day1 100% of the time. From that point onwards the only thing the thread needed to do was vote kurumi and then ask whether it was a a bus or not. It should have removed all other candidates for the lynch and discussion the thread should have moved onto the next day's lynch. RoL's nuke was the only good reason to move on from this issue and it was the reason that kurumi was not lynched. Everyone should have paid their attention to that and thought about the various possibilities since for a time that event would have decided that days lynch and is deciding today lynch. It was your responsibility as town. But are we to believe that until this morning zealos was unaware of the whole thing? Zealos placed his first vote against austinmcc On July 18 2012 07:40 Zealos wrote: Unfortunatly I'm going to have to go with this. Having only recently replaced in and having been out all day today, I'm just gonna vote for the person that seems the most scummy recently. I don't like the idea of a BH lynch right now. I don't think there is enough against him, and if he does flip town we've lost a good vet. ##Vote: austinmcc He says nothing about austinmcc specifically and yet he feels that the only thing needed to justify his vote was thread momentum. At that time a few players were calling austinmcc scummy but there was nothing substantial said at all and he had very few votes. Zealos' vote was lazy and shows that he was trying to fit in rather than trying to get a successful lynch. It sounds a lot like the Zealos that HiroPro descibed. On July 19 2012 05:16 Zealos wrote: Unfortunately my vote for austin was a rush vote where I voted for who seemed to have a decent case against them. I simply didn't have time to look over the whole thread, which is regrettable. As for today, I think a good kill would be BH. I gather it's pretty much a wagon at this point, but just to add to things: That is super odd to me. Clearly his logic makes no sense, and he's trying to buddy up to who he thinks will be an influential town player. The post I made early about him also pointed his odd vote switch after the deadline, which doesn't seem town at all to me. Not to mention the massive cuffle with all the nuking and blocking (which I still don't understand at all, are nukes standard in some games?) So he's my pick so far. So Zealos still was not reading the thread since austinmcc did not have a decent case against him and his comment about Kurumi demonstrates a complete lack of thread knowledge. He also picks out Blazinghand not for being scummy but for being "odd". Which is strange since there should be enuogh players for him to find something that is scummy and not simply "odd". On July 19 2012 05:26 Zealos wrote: I'll just go ahead and vote for BH at the start of day2 then leave you guys to it. bb, I will simply re-post: On July 19 2012 10:19 layabout wrote: + Show Spoiler [snip] + On July 19 2012 10:08 HiroPro wrote: Also, you still did not explain why a town Zealos would ever try to argue that BH was trying to buddy "influential townie" Kurumi. I have a very low opinion of town Zealos and that i something i think he could do if e hadn't been reading the thread. What you said he did was not accurate and this play from Zealos reminds me very much of how he acted at the end of Bang Bang mafia 2. Zealos said that he would vote for Blazinghand and not come back for the rest of the day. If he is town and he cares then he will come back and try to be productive there is nothing to stop him doing this as mafia but if he doesn't do it he is probably mafia and we should lynch him. And what has he done? Well he spent just long enough in the thread to have sandroba's message explained to him. He contributed nothing of his own and has not been productive. He is mafia. ##tomorrow we should vote zealos | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On July 21 2012 09:28 VisceraEyes wrote: No I think Blazinghand is less likely to flip Executive than you. That's the most ridiculous thing ever. Blazinghand has practically admitted he is mafia and you're just going to let him run around in hopes of hitting executives? That's like a sane DT getting a red check and you don't kill the guy cause you think he's a miller (hilariously enough this happened in my first mafia game here...care to guess which side won?). You can't ignore the players who have lots of good analysis against them (Blazinghand, Bill Murray, syllogism and austin and GGQ to some extent, etc) in the hopes of sniping an executive. That's just paving the way for a mafia victory; any competent person will tell you that. | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
On July 21 2012 09:35 Foolishness wrote: That's the most ridiculous thing ever. Blazinghand has practically admitted he is mafia and you're just going to let him run around in hopes of hitting executives? That's like a sane DT getting a red check and you don't kill the guy cause you think he's a miller (hilariously enough this happened in my first mafia game here...care to guess which side won?). You can't ignore the players who have lots of good analysis against them (Blazinghand, Bill Murray, syllogism and austin and GGQ to some extent, etc) in the hopes of sniping an executive. That's just paving the way for a mafia victory; any competent person will tell you that. I've never admitted I'm mafia, I've been helping the town. Do I have a fair amount of one-liners and quips? yeah, sure. Do I also have solid cases in my filter? YES. Because I'm helping the damn town | ||
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