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Dangeresque77
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greymist's brother, actually got an account lol | ||
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Dangeresque77
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If we dont find something to talk about then we won't find out Whoes scum. Policies for lynching is as good a topic as any | ||
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On July 06 2012 11:58 Zephirdd wrote: Good, so what's your opinion on the common policy lynches (lurkers, liars, specific players)?  (for the record, I pretty much agree with MrZentor) Basically I just say all that lynch all liers lynch all lurkers etc. But yea it's sircumstantual, I mean im not gonna just condem someone just because he breaks a rule period. | ||
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On July 06 2012 12:38 Bluelightz wrote: Questions! Mr. SloOsh Dr.wiggl3s has not done anything yet why are you voting him? Why do you agree? Why is policy lynches good as any other topic? What do you mean in this post? Policies are stuff that are enforced (for example A lurks and because we are doing Lynch All Lurkers we lynch A correct)? As response to your first question on me. I don't know what to tell you. I figure that lynching policy is just a good conversation starter. It gets people talking and it helps scum hunt In response to the second. what I ment was that I believe that we can't just kill someone without stopping to think about it first if he broke a policy. 99 percent of the time I'll be for it but I like to think about it a little bit before I just vote lynch | ||
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On July 07 2012 00:19 Zephirdd wrote: Also I want to hear from MsZontar, drwiggl3s, sloosh, Dangeresque77. They all posted nothing. Sloosh, you showed a different play on movie star. The other three, I want your opinions on everything that happened so far and you find relevant; Don't stay shut without words. sorry ive been asleep anyways heres what i think so far i would be ok to vote for prplhz but im not totally convinced that hes scum. then again it would help to jst go ahead and lynch one person to give us a starting ground 1. from a town perspective. prplhz has been poking and prodding marvelosity and others. marv primely if he is town he could be just tring to get people to react to being accused and see what they do. a good way of scum hunting 2. if he is mafia. he is trying to throw random suspicion around as to slow down the process of finding scum and make everyone vote for someone different either way. he hasn't really contributed to anything except to confuse people also im a little suspicious of Sinensis. like others have said his posts sound suspicious. i think we need to here more from him before we decide on anything | ||
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On July 07 2012 02:15 marvellosity wrote: I mean... I guess I have to respond :/ Pre-game and ingame ARE NOT THE SAME THING. Cooey. More inquisitive? Why don't you look at my filter and see how many questions I've asked? I just read your filter Yes 90% of what you say is a question This is not a good thing Mafia ask this many questions. You know why? Because by asking a question you are skirting around what you think about it And allowing others to answer it for you You get out of ever having to voice your opinion If someone ever held you to your posts you would be able to say "I was just asking a question that's not my point of view" Questions are always nice but you just seem suspicious to me. What would really be nice if instead of asking "don't you think x is scummy" You would just say"x is scummy for these reasons" | ||
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On July 07 2012 05:57 marvellosity wrote: Previous to this post there was some blablabla posts. Reasonably to be expected at the start of day 1. But this post... ah, I don't know where to begin with how it wiffle waffles (big sister of wishy washy). He spends quite a long time talking about prplhz, but to what conclusion? He's confusing. The first sentence is a real cracker: "I would be ok to vote prplhz" - excellent! "but I'm not totally convinced he's scum" - oh... why you ok to vote him :< "then again it would help to just go ahead and lynch one person to get us started" - what??... that's not why we lynch people. So he's happy to vote prplhz just because... he's ok with getting anyone lynched to start the game. He then proceeds to call prplhz going "lol u scum" a "good way of scumhunting." Really? :/ I mean, really?? :/ Tacked on the end of the post is the little bit about Sinensis. It feels like he's just put that there to, ya know, say something else. "like others have said, his posts sound suspicious". Well, Zentor said he sounded cautious. Dangeresque does NOT provide his own opinion here, he's just casting the doubt of others on to Sinensis. Overall just a post of such astonishing nothingness. Very scummy. First off. Don't take what I said out of context. 1. In my first post I clearly stated my position on prplhz. Scummy but not confirmed mafia. By the way scum hunting is the exact reason why we lynch people. 2. Call me crazy but it looks like him going "Marv you scum lol" worked. He got you to respond. I'm not saying he's town but it's a good way to see how people respond Don't say that all I posted was nothingness. Read it then tell me what I was saying. I was posting my views on two people. How is saying "sinesis post sound suspicious" saying nothing? I am clearly saying that I think he is a little bit suspicious Overal my opinion is as follows. Very scummy- no one at the moment for me Scummy- prplhz and marvellosity Prplhz for previous reasons Marv for the way that he just accuses Only people who accuses him and of how he explodes in his posts Kinda suspicious- sinesis How's that for " posting my opinion" | ||
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Now that you bring it up it would make sense for Marv and prplhz to be on the scum team. They both throw a little suspicion at eachother without any real arguments. If I Had to gues right now I would say Marv and prplhz are scum team. This is me making a clear opinion. | ||
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sorry for seeming wishy washy in my previous posts as some people have called me. i didnt think that i had enough information on people to really commit to calling someone mafia also someone said that i was defending prplhz. when did i defend him? ok down to my actual point after i put marvel on my maybe scum list i found it interesting that he spent the next 5 pages trying to convince people that im scum. there is no reason to just ask people for my opinion so many different times unless you are hopping for someone to say something bad about me. On July 07 2012 08:14 marvellosity wrote: I wasn't appealing to authority, I was being condescending. But you're both right, that's not very productive. re: your answer slOosh, yea that's cool. As I FoSed him, what do people think of Dangeresque? On July 07 2012 08:23 marvellosity wrote: wiggles - dangeresque, thoughts now On July 07 2012 08:23 marvellosity wrote: as in, your thoughts on dangeresque. On July 07 2012 08:30 marvellosity wrote: Zeph - NSH. wiggles, all he said on Sinensis is that he was 'suspicious' how is this a 'good point' ? saying someone is suspicious is not a 'good point', it's not a point at all because it's completely unexplained. How do you not understand this? I've posted on Dangeresque. Do you read the thread? throwing around suspicion at the guy who is accusing you is mafia play. On July 07 2012 08:45 marvellosity wrote: There's prplhz's behaviour, the cases made on him and the discussions surrounding it there's mszontar's bizarre attack on me there's sinensis' lurking / absence there's slOosh's ninja vote/explanation/views on anything there's dangeresque being weird there's you posting a lot BUT SAYING NOTHING there's plenty going on bro. i love how you just accuse people like this. you call me out for saying that someone is suspicious without giving much of a reason(i agrea with you however. i did not give a point when i said it. but sadly that was not my intention. i was simply saying that i was going to keep my eyes on that guy. not that he is mafia) and then you post this. accusation dont help anyone if you dont give your reasons as to why it is scummy. "dangeresque being wierd" does not help any one | ||
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##Vote: Sinensis Like Ve said this is by far the best case at the moment He contradicts himself. He's overly defensive and he doesn't have any meaningful cases. Basically he only seems to cause havoc | ||
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I could defenantly see prplhz being mafia. I'd like to see him post some more before I commit though Hers had quite a bit of pressure on him sense day one and his only response to the attacks was " I don't know how you want me to defend myself". He claims that he's had like 100 games. Seems like someone with that much experience should have a better answere He's defenantly on my mafia watch list | ||
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He does really seem to only try and delay scumm hunting Why do you guys think the case on him is stronger than sinensis or vice versa? | ||
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##Vote:drwiggl3s Your right his play does seem uncontrasted to his lvl After ive thought about it Wiggles is being more destructive than sinensis. If I'm right we need two more to vote on drwiggles for the lynch | ||
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On July 08 2012 13:14 Sinensis wrote: No, I don't think so. I think if NSH wanted as easy mislynch, like you probably did, he would have just voted me... like you did. So your implying that me and NSH are part of a scum team? We would have to be a really horrible scum team If we were scum and wanted an "easy misslynch" why would we switch? You already had 4 votes And scum wouldn't have changed their vote to someone who they knew was town | ||
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On July 09 2012 00:45 Zephirdd wrote: His and D77's votes were right next to each other. VE show no reasoning on wiggl3s vote. D77, use this moment to reply to what I said over there. Zeph you mean you're case on Ve or what you said about me? Whatever I'll do both 1. On one hand Marv is right. Someone does have to be in the middle On the other hand like you said he has been there for most of his votes It would be easy to pass this off as him being an unagressive player, but he was first for voting prplhz I'd like to here what prplhz thinks of him now sense earlier he was tunneling him pretty hard His recent play defenantly seems scummy. Especially because of the reasons for his votes. He never really gave any reasons. Seems like he is trying not to be able to be held to his opinion 2. Ok Im not really sure what to tell you about our votes being together I just switched from sinensis ( who has gotten a lot more aggressive and in my opinion scummy since the day ended) mostly because of what NSH was saying. At the time I had thought that sin had about the same chance as wiggles for being scum but I switched because wiggles was the person that we were actually going to be able to lynch. Id say our votes being together is nothing more than coincidence | ||
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What I ment by "being more destructive" was thaf I felt as though wiggles had been delaying scum hunting more than sinensis who only really hardcore defended himself and prplhz | ||
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On July 09 2012 06:01 MrZentor wrote: Sinensis, Marv, VE Is that really your scum team ATM??? Seems unlikely Both Marv and Ve did not bit for sinensis in the end but that's not really a strong case Please explain your reasoning | ||
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But if I had to vote right now it would be sinensis For all of the previous cases on him And because of how much more aggressive he has gotten after day 1 | ||
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As for you Marv. I could see you being scum but I don't really think it's likely | ||
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On July 09 2012 08:39 Zephirdd wrote: bonus question: how is getting more aggressive a scum trait exclusively? Well no trait is exclusively a scum trait IMO. But in sin's case. He tried to switch suspicion from himself to me, Ve, and sloosh for late switching From a town view- he is trying to scum hunt and see our reactions From mafia view- he was almost lynched so he wants to switch suspicion to someone else sense he would be an obvious target after wiggles flipped town. Blaming us on late switching would imply that he woulndt have minded getting lynched( he was our previous target after all) witch would give him more of a town view Your views on this? | ||
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On July 09 2012 08:45 marvellosity wrote: Last question then - I did seem to be your strongest scumread day 1. What changed? Well early in day one I suspected prplhz more than you. That's not really saying much because it was the first 20 hours of the game. I didn't really have much to go on I don't really think your scummy anymore mostly because looking back on your posts and your recent one I think my read was wrong and that you were acctually just trying to scum hunt | ||
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On July 09 2012 09:07 marvellosity wrote: thanks for answering. Regarding Sinensis, what do you think of the idea that, if he was scum and just avoided the lynch, it would be better if he didn't ruffle any feathers for a while (unlike what he did)? That's what I'm mulling over currently with him. well after what happened any mafia player(newb or pro) would instantly think "i need to lay low for a sec" but if the mafia member was really intelligent he would ,instead of showing the obvious signs of being mafia, he would try to "come out of his shell" and try and prove that he is town. honestly if he was town i feel as though he would at least post some more reasons on his suspicions than just "they switched from me to him" | ||
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lets see what did the mafia stand to gain from that kill you would think that the mafia would have killed prplhz because of his cop claim thoughts? prplhz, marvel what do you guys think? | ||
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ill save some time and make it three im police officer i jailed zephirdd ill include my reasoning as well im basically a medic with a slight drawback(maybe not if used on a mafia member). i think zeph is town and thought he was a reasonable target for mafia, so jailing him seemed to be prudent | ||
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i wasn't accusing prphlz, hes confirmed town in my eyes i was just wondering why the mafia kill benefited them | ||
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It would certainly help though | ||
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cant believe you got out of this the first day | ||
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On July 10 2012 00:13 MrZentor wrote: Make an effort yourself. Look through his filter, and if you can't find anything scummy, look at the cases against him. Why do I need to convince you? A lot of the town already agrees that Sinensis is scum. Wow. You have just refused to give your opinion about three time in 10 minutes We may have found some more scum | ||
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mrzentor is looking way too scummy and isnt being any help at all to town plus i gotta admit sinensis is looking more townish Unvote Vote MrZentor | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote MrZentor | ||
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Personally I would say either blue lights or slOosh | ||
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You wrote 3 names there's 3 scum. | ||
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i think sins town becuase hes stopped his scummy play and mostly becuase of the people who have been tunneling him zeph has never really given me a reason for getting a scum vibe assuming that myself prphlz and marv are all town also that leaves 4 players and 3 scum here are my base reads. top is most scummy, bot is least 1. mrzentor: for obvious reasons. how hardcore him and Ve tunnel sin. and a mostly becuase of his refusal to give his reasons for his accusation, thus being not helpful to town at all 2. Ve: i get a scum vibe from him strongly because of how he posts. he is very much passive agressive/very agressive. he was being all not helpful at all by refusing to answer to slOosh. after he was tunneling sin he just accuses mrzentor. changing his vote doesn't make him scum but i feel as though the scum point of view from it would help. he might think that mrzentor will be lynched weather or not he jumps on the wagon and in that case if they are on a scum team he will get accused for not being on the wagon. if they arn't on a scum team and mrzentor were to flip town it would make him look more town because of how hard he was tunneling sin before. but if mrzentor was town he might fair better to keep tunneling sin 3. SlOosh: i don't really get a huge scum feeling from you to start off. but being one of the 4 people who i am considering ive thought about you a bit more. you did in fact start the wagon to get sin lynched (not necessarily scummy but its something that need to be put into consideration).you didn't really mind hoping on the mrzentor lynch as well, as i recall you were in the middle of the lynch for wiggles as well. also you never really gave your concrete reasons for voting mrzentor ?. Bluelightz: dont really know where to put this guy. he hasnt really posted much in the past few pages so i dont know what his current stance is. but atm he is voting for sin which looks a little bit suspicious on its own. but he is the only one to have a decent case on him. idk i would like to here more from you guys about him. at the moment im voting for MrZentor. im also getting a little bit of "buyers remourse" but i think that he is the best choice as of right now. plus if the 3 scum is in that list of 4 people then each one of them has a 75% chance of being mafia | ||
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I feel like we have more evidence on Ve than on zentor He is extremely wishy washy and never actually pushed anything I feel like hes managed to go away with not actually taking a stance on something However I still do think that zentor is very scummy ##Unvote ##Vote VisceraEyes | ||
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and for the fact that still you arnt defending yourself your just trying to switch our target to mrzentor and sin | ||
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On July 11 2012 08:07 VisceraEyes wrote: And yes, I'm appealing to fear...because apparently emotion just isn't enough, I gotta get SPECIFIC. So you're a terrorist now? | ||
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A town would actually provide reason or at least make an effort | ||
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so he dies today? honestly i would be equally if not more on board for a mrzentor let see people who i think are town(of course no one (but marv) can be completely confirmed) marvel-confirmed vigil prphlz-claimed cop me zeph sin remaining. SlOosh bluelightz mrzentor 3 mafia are left. | ||
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SlOosh. mrzentor. bluelightz heres my case on sloosh sloosh- basically i agree with most of the points brought up by zeph and marv the only people he has been accusing in the last 2 pages of his filter are zephrid, and prphlz both of these players are thought of as confirmed town. a scum would of course want to cast suspicion on two members who have a good rep On July 11 2012 10:55 slOosh wrote: I'M PISSED OFF BECAUSE NO ONE HAS THE GUTS TO LYNCH ANYONE THIS GAME. APPARENTLY LYNCHING SCUMMY PEOPLE IS TOO EASY, AND SO WE GOTTA LYNCH SOME TOWNIE LOOKING GUYS WHO GET PISSED OFF. Whatever. Lynching me is better than a no-lynch. Either switch back or I'm self-voting so town can get their act together. right here is is screaming at us to switch back to Ve. and then later he claim to self vote so we can get a lynch. hes trying to shove the suspicion somewhere else(onto a townie) and he is claiming self sacrfice for the town sacrificing yourself sounds townie but doing it while trying to shove suspicion onto someone else is downright scummy once he is fighting to lynch a player who is town i dont like how after he came under suspicion he just exploaded. its ok to defend yourself but 80 percent of page 4 in his filter are things like this On July 11 2012 10:59 slOosh wrote: Because we found scum and because of his passive aggressive junk everyone is chicken to lynch. this is not helpful in the slightest to the town and ended up in getting one of us lynched after he survived he came right out of the gate and tried to get zeph and prphlz lynched my last note on him is that almost all of his points on "why zeph is scum" dont involve him explaining why its scummy On July 11 2012 15:14 slOosh wrote: Actually doesn't matter. I think Zephirdd is the last scum. I think building a case on MrZentor is a moot point. Scum attributes: Inconsistency, pushing agendas This comes in what I initially thought was just failure to read / forgetfulness, but upon review I think that they are slips and conclusions which are arrived at with reasoning that doesn't match. Considerable are his views on the blues. The second point puts forth the premise: prplhz cannot be scum if Sinensis is town. Problems in reasoning: Sinensis' alignment has no bearing on what a scum prplhz would do. If a scum prplhz didn't claim roleblock, he would have to produce a read. But even if he saw that a scum prplhz claiming not roleblocked as the stronger play, it shouldn't rule out Sinensis as scum. In fact, it would actually cast doubt on D77 the claimed jailor on the grounds of game balance. Sinensis has nothing to do with claiming roleblock or not. How did Sinensis go into the confirmed pool? He considers the slip as null, but is using it to call him confirmed. There is an agenda here. Call Sinensis town. Why? So he can call prplhz town too based on weak reasoning. Also so he gets to push MrZentor, VE and BL. He critiques them for being on a Sinensis lynch, even though his reasoning for why Sinensis must be town is tenuous. His followup posts when marv addresses the flaws in thinking show that he wants to call prplhz town, but again on weak reasoning. It's basically "scum prplhz should have done this, and he didn't, therefore he is town". This has heavy, heavy contrast to his D1 assessment of him where he basically calls him scum every other post. Also note how fast he is to defend prplhz after the cop claim. Couple of other things which show faulty reasoning that doesn't fit conclusions. Opposes a MrZentor lynch without a legitimate reason. This comes when his lynch actually starts building and rolling on D2. Wants to say "we shouldn't lynch MrZentor". Uses the reason "his relation with MsZontar is important"? Wants to call MrZentor scum. Reason: "He didn't read Sinensis' old games and come to the same conclusion that I did". Brings the MrZentor lynch option back again when the VE lynch is pretty much set. Additionally, discredits marv for no reason. Haunting clairvoyance (read as mafia know the town list), that VE is town. He takes the quote that I say (my preference for VE over MrZentor lynch) as a sign that I am scum (who is hesitant to vote for scum buddy). Sure. But then he makes this post: Where now labels me scum, and therefore Zentor is scum in association with me. It's the complete opposite of what he just said. Because I'm hesitant to vote for Zentor, he must be scum? Then how am I scum? Zephirdd is making stuff up to push his agenda. Zephirdd has shown much inconsistency and weak / unrelated reasoning to reach the conclusions that he wants to. This reveals scum agenda. if you look at his reasons as to why he is scummy none of them would actually make me think he is scummy.( this means he is grasping at straws trying to get zeph lynched) for expample. when he calls zeph out for switching to mrzentor and "discrediting" marv. he berates zeph for scum-hunting basically and not wanting to follow a hunch. he is trying to warp zephs wards so that he sounds more scummy i dont have time becuase i might die in 5 minutes so ill give my quick reasons for the others i think mr zentor is scum because of all the reasons that were brought up when we were about to kill him. we had a good case on him. he has been very quite in the past day. i think he is trying not to screw anything up and he thinks that he can get away with being a tad lurkky. my last member of the scum team was between bluelightz and sinensis. a few of his posts about slOosh convinced me that he was more likly to be scum On July 11 2012 10:36 Bluelightz wrote: Umm VE, now what should we do then? Mass switch to sloOsh with 25 minutes remaining? right here he is trying to not get slOosh lynched. On July 11 2012 10:41 Bluelightz wrote: I don't know... VE seems more townie now..... I'll support a switch I guess but :3 right here though he condones to lynching sloosh but he doest compltely give in i feel like from a scum stand point right here is where he realized that SlOosh was not going to get lynched becuase we did not have enough people to switch over. so he jumped on the wagon so he did not look like he was defening the man who was trying to get a town player lynched. and then his last post accusing slOosh i feel is scummy as well. On July 12 2012 10:36 Bluelightz wrote: Alright, my case on slOosh. Preface: I really thought slOosh was town before the Day 2 Lynch, but after that him sealing VE's fate pissed me off, and the way he insisted it was terrible, this case will be divided into Day 1/Day 2 Sections. [ right now i feel as though he is trying to do the opposite in this post as he was trying to do in his other ones with sloosh. now he know that slOosh will be lynched and that 80 percent of people have scum reads on him. as scum he would be foolish to be the only person not on that wagon. but he is one of the last to have jumped on it. if he was town his mind should have been harder to sway. he wouldnt have voted sloosh unles he actually thought he was scum not by just saying "i support a switch i guess" | ||
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anyways. this doesn't make any sense they should've killed me. or they are just storing a shot or like zeph said. there could be a medic and we both healed the same person. which would mean that they had a strong arm. if they didnt then i would be dead atm i think they are storing the shot though | ||
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which brings the quesion. is there a medic here? | ||
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all i am saying is that i find it scummy how you didn't give a single reason as to why ve was less scummy. you claim to have supported his lynch. but all you did was vote for him and said things like "i gues" and "im ok with unvoteing" if you actually wanted people to join your cause you would say something like " slOosh is scum" also theres the fact that you started saying that he looked less scummy 5 minutes before the deadline. in my opinion i think that you knew he was town becuase you are scum and you wanted to give everyone the last image of you defending Ve before he got lynched i might be wrong about this, id like to here from others | ||
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I was trying to get people to recognize the possibility that they didn't delay You're whole case on me Is based off of me saying that the majority of people think that zeph and prplhz are town And that I asked for medic claim(which I did not) | ||
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On July 13 2012 09:31 slOosh wrote: prphlz plays cop like that because he is most likely scums. D77 looks like he is dodging my medic question. This guy can't be newb town. If you won't be swayed off my lynch, can we at least talk about my cases? I'm curious to see what people think of them, apart from the people they are directed to. Starting with D77 since it seems the most straightforward of my cases / "newb" players tend to be easier to read. So your case on me is that I'm digging your medic question? I answere it like 2 pages ago I've read your case on me. The only points you bring up Is that i think prplhz and zeph are town and that "I was trying to get a medic to claim" wich I wasn't I'll say it again so u can understand. I was trying to ask people their thought on the possibility of a medic and me heinz the same person to block the strongarm. | ||
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If I wanted a claim I would have actually asked for one "if there is a medic here could you claim". Read my other two posts explaining why I wasnt trying to out the medic | ||
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