Normal Mini Mafia II - Page 50

On July 12 2012 20:57 GMarshal wrote:
Ok, all PMs that weren't sent last night have been sent.

For reference, that's all roleblock PMs, all information role PMs and all veteran hit notification PMs. Not all of these are necessarily present.

This is a reminder to myself to brutally murder my cohost later.

* Point 1 - Sinensis push
Early Day1, MrZentor points out Sinensis' first post. Based on that post, he proceeds to spend the whole day pushing for his lynch. Sounds legit right?
The issue is on the moment me and Sinensis fight eachother. Sinensis does something really, really terrible which is blatantly ignoring my post.

That is something that a town player should push for someone's lynch. Nothing is 100% and it's possible that Sinensis is town even after doing that; It is however something that should be pushed for when you believe that person is scum.

This is an incredibly neutral ground post. He is trying to stop our brawl - seems like the right thing for a town player to do right? For a town player that does not want to push either lynch, that is. MrZentor, however, wanted to push Sinensis. So why did he simply ignore his newest posts and kept pushing for that single first post?

This is a new point, and I now realize it's actually important.
He has 29 posts on day 1, a day with about 17 pages of posting.

He has a candidate for a lynch, and he firmly believes he is scum.
He does not actively push for the lynch of his candidate. Why? Why a town player that believes X is scum is not trying to pursue other players into the lynch of his candidate?
A scum player, however, loves to do that. Creates a little suspicion, claims credit on the wagon, and just skims by the day unnoticed. "He is scum hunting!" a player would think, but under further analysis you can see he won't try to pursue for the lynch as he should. Ask questions, create material from his lynch candidate. He is fine sitting on that one-post case and complaining about people switching around - when he himself didn't actively try to keep people into his candidate.

* Point 3 - The List
(I'll use his answer to this point as well, it's relevant)
He posts a scum list on Night 1. "Sinensis, Marv, VE".
On Day 2, when questioned, he posts this:

This is not a transparent post. Anyone reading this will interpret he is saying that the "list" is not a list.

Anyone reading this will interpret he is saying that the "list" is not a list.

the "list" is not a list.

On July 12 2012 12:52 slOosh wrote:
This is when many voices doubted the validity of the cop claim (including confirmed towns NSH and VE [yes this is a jab at you marv, just because you flip town doesn't mean you are infallible]).

On July 08 2012 06:26 marvellosity wrote:


Don't you dare. You completely brought this upon yourself and bugs is totally correct. If you are the cop then your play at the beginning of the day was absolutely atrocious, and COMPLETELY unbefitting of your role. You're perfectly capable of solid townie play, but instead you throw crap at the thread when you're in possession of such a power role? What the fuck, seriously?

On July 08 2012 06:37 marvellosity wrote:
There's 2 inter-related reasons I'm wary of lynching prplhz today, being

1) I have a terrible record with assessing/lynching blue claims,
2) I have a tendency to grossly overestimate what I expect from players I have respect for (and you are one, prplhz).

An example of these 2 things working together is Bang Bang, where I lynched (shot) gonzaw the claimed cop. I thought the claim was iffy, but most of all I expected MORE from his play previously (there had been holes). But I was wrong and gonzaw had simply played more suboptimally than I expected.

On July 09 2012 22:18 marvellosity wrote:

The prplhz cop claim

I really still can't quite get over this. prplhz said "you guys forced me to claim cop".

Out of 12 players, only 3 players actually placed a vote on prplhz (me, Zeph, VE). Many others actually defended him. It feels very wrong that someone would claim cop with 3 votes maximum on them. I want ALL of town's thoughts on this please.

On July 13 2012 00:04 MrZentor wrote:
Well I think I paired two of the town leader's names with a scum's to see how people responded to the idea of you guys being scum, so I could tell if I was being paranoid or if I had reasonable fears.

I mean, that would be a good reason to do it, but I'm not sure if that's why I did it. I'm not entirely sure why I did it. :/

On July 12 2012 06:42 Zephirdd wrote:

Why would a town player make a scum list on night 1? There are a few reasons. Gauge reactions, look awesome if all three of them flip scum after the game.

Why would a scum player make a list on night 1? Create confusion, make a little ground to attack all of them later on the game.

On July 12 2012 23:47 marvellosity wrote:
I am going to do slOosh the courtesy of reading his posts and cases. Stuff like this doesn't help:



The quotes below are not the only time I've indicated the claim makes me uncomfortable, I just found them quickly