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On July 07 2012 06:44 kingdedede wrote:
I'm going with the fact that he said you always look super townie when you are townie, and that in this game you haven't been. The one thing I know is that he isn't trying to mislead me, which I don't know about anyone else in the game.
That's ridiculous to vote on meta at this point in the game haha. Please at least read through people's filters assuming I'm town and see if it makes sense to you. I am town.
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On July 07 2012 06:41 talismania wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 06:38 talismania wrote:On July 05 2012 15:07 Mister Saturn wrote:
Sigh, whatever, I'll worry about this if grush isn't scum. I have a strong town read on dedede, so that makes Cephiro strong town too. On July 06 2012 02:17 Mister Saturn wrote:
I don't think it's a ceph/dedede scum team, Risen. I'm fairly certain dedede is town and so Cephiro pretty much has to be too.
I think grush just happened to shoot the same person as scum. I just don't see why scum grush would claim. So who's my partner then? On another note - how do you get from having a strong town read on dedede = cephiro is town? I mean I agree both are town, but I don't see how you get there from that line of reasoning.
Because I didn't consider the possibility that Cephiro might shoot himself if he was scum on a different team. I thought the only way he would do that was if dedede was his partner. And I didn't consider that likely at all.
But this is a game with three stock and it's entirely possible that scum can do this.
- Hiro
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Okay I've been reading everyone's filters through, and I must say none of them are particularly enchanting.
I started to think what if talis is scum.
The problem is that if tali was scum, from my perspective it's a bus in every possible scenario. I know I'm not scum, so that leaves 4 possibilities:
talismania + grush57: Extremely unlikely as I can't believe both mafia members would be the only lynch options two days in a row, + they've been voting against each other since the start. Also a bus.
talismania + Saturn: A bus at this stage seems needlessly risky as talismania absorbed DK last night, so he is not carrying anyone yet. It doesn't make any sense as Saturn could easily push for grush to be killed, thus letting talismania get to pick a target for his DK ability next night, enabling Saturn to bus him the following day if necessary. I guess this is possible if Saturn was super cocky due to having 2.5 KP total, but I can't see this happening either.
talismania + HRB: A bus situation again. Although HRB's role isn't known (except that it's not a Samus or DK.), this combination seems unlikely as well. HRB made a case on me and talis, I don't see why he would push for talis that hard instead of going for me, as I reckon at this stage he wouldn't even have to convince grush to join the bandwagon.
talismania + kingdedede: Bus situation. A yoshi+kirby scumteam seems quite lacking if town has 2 DK, 2 samus + something. Hard to see a motivation for the night action, why would they want me to gain town-cred when talis was up for lynch D1? They could have shot dedede and bussed him forward to someone they considered a threat. I just can't see this happening either.
And I know I'm town. talismania + anyone scumteam just doesn't make any fucking sense.
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Feel good. You made the right choice.
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cephiro you'll have to shoot grush tonight I think. sigh.
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On July 07 2012 06:47 talismania wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 06:44 kingdedede wrote:
I'm going with the fact that he said you always look super townie when you are townie, and that in this game you haven't been. The one thing I know is that he isn't trying to mislead me, which I don't know about anyone else in the game. That's ridiculous to vote on meta at this point in the game haha. Please at least read through people's filters assuming I'm town and see if it makes sense to you. I am town.
How is voting based on meta bad? People make cases based on meta all the time and it's one of the strongest indicators in the game. Your filter doesn't scream town. There's a lot of fluff about connections and setup speculation. Some scumhunting which you didn't do in Bang Bang, but you mentioned that was an off game for you. You did do some scumhunting in Pick Your Poison as well so that fits your meta there as well.
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On July 07 2012 06:45 Mister Saturn wrote:
Cephiro's activity levels have been quite bad, especially at deadline times, when town should be more active, and scum are more likely to excuse themselves away.
This is fucking bullshit and you know it. I've been around every single deadline in this game, go ahead and check.
On July 07 2012 06:45 Mister Saturn wrote:
And no dont try to excuse it away as a connection without a flip. No, Cephiro makes a very direct promise "If you're not going to step up your play asap, I will push you for lynch." talismania's play has been scummy and poor. But has Cephiro followed through at all? No, he's completely ignored talismania . This is a broken promise - it's lying and scummy.
- Hiro
Nice way of twisting the words in your favour. Why should I push someone I am unsure of rather than someone I am sure to be scum? I'll give you that he looks worse than you or HRB right now, but none of talis scumteam combinations makes sense to me. Add in the fact that I considered Risen, and I still consider grush the scummiest person alive, why the hell should I push talis for lynch? This is all happening too easily, it's a scum bandwagon. It has to be either you or HRB + grush.
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On July 07 2012 06:47 Mister Saturn wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 06:41 talismania wrote:On July 07 2012 06:38 talismania wrote:On July 05 2012 15:07 Mister Saturn wrote:
Sigh, whatever, I'll worry about this if grush isn't scum. I have a strong town read on dedede, so that makes Cephiro strong town too. On July 06 2012 02:17 Mister Saturn wrote:
I don't think it's a ceph/dedede scum team, Risen. I'm fairly certain dedede is town and so Cephiro pretty much has to be too.
I think grush just happened to shoot the same person as scum. I just don't see why scum grush would claim. So who's my partner then? On another note - how do you get from having a strong town read on dedede = cephiro is town? I mean I agree both are town, but I don't see how you get there from that line of reasoning. Because I didn't consider the possibility that Cephiro might shoot himself if he was scum on a different team. I thought the only way he would do that was if dedede was his partner. And I didn't consider that likely at all. But this is a game with three stock and it's entirely possible that scum can do this. - Hiro
dude what if you really are town haha. homerunbat just played us against each other.
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If I end up being wrong on this I'm gonna send an anthrax letter to Acro.
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On July 07 2012 06:51 kingdedede wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 06:47 talismania wrote:On July 07 2012 06:44 kingdedede wrote:
I'm going with the fact that he said you always look super townie when you are townie, and that in this game you haven't been. The one thing I know is that he isn't trying to mislead me, which I don't know about anyone else in the game. That's ridiculous to vote on meta at this point in the game haha. Please at least read through people's filters assuming I'm town and see if it makes sense to you. I am town. How is voting based on meta bad? People make cases based on meta all the time and it's one of the strongest indicators in the game. Your filter doesn't scream town. There's a lot of fluff about connections and setup speculation. Some scumhunting which you didn't do in Bang Bang, but you mentioned that was an off game for you. You did do some scumhunting in Pick Your Poison as well so that fits your meta there as well.
it's fine day one is all I'm saying. day two with as much info as we have isn't the best time.
please please please re-read saturn's/grush's filter with the assumption that I am town. Give it a chance.
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On July 07 2012 06:53 kingdedede wrote:
If I end up being wrong on this I'm gonna send an anthrax letter to Acro.
Again, he changed his mind on me this game - he wanted to stay on grush. He'll be sending you the letter. As will igrok
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With 6 minutes time from when you posted you can't expect me to reread it that quick.
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I think town is fucked. I'll be shooting grush no matter what so it won't be gg in the morning.
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solstice you need to do the same as artanis and actually assume that I'm town and really re-think this game. Unless you're scum in which case well played. Don't get too caught up in your me + cephiro theory to ignore the other possibility. I'm begging you to at least do that.
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On July 07 2012 06:59 kingdedede wrote:
With 6 minutes time from when you posted you can't expect me to reread it that quick.
I can expect you to try. Come on, at least make it a no-lynch.
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---Night 2---
talismanias Kirby was kicked into the Acid and bounced off into a top corner of the map, loosing 1.5 Stock!
IT IS NOW NIGHT. GET YOUR NIGHT ACTIONS IN. YOU HAVE A LITTLE LESS THAN 24HOURS LEFT TO DO SO.
DEADLINE IS STILL 22:30 GMT (+00:00) AS ALWAYS
The Stage will change to Safron City tomorrow
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see?
Now why would I have voluntarily just claimed my role when I did if I were scum? Think about that for once - please don't ignore all the possible evidence. The game isn't over but it is tilting fast.
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I'm shooting talismania tonight.
- Hiro
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On July 07 2012 07:05 Mister Saturn wrote:
I'm shooting talismania tonight.
- Hiro
You're going to be fucked when I flip then, sorry dude if you're town.
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Fucking derptown. Let grush run free and lynch the townies. Can't believe this shit.
If it's Saturn+HRB somehow, then gg, it's all up to dedede bus wifom. Saturn shot on talis and KP on grush would make it 2v2 unless dedede does a gosu bus again.
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