I'm not pushing iGrok more because it doesn't matter; my position in the thread is officially shit and I won't be able to get him lynched. Luckily I have a gun and I can do what I want with it

Yes, I saw your thing about him possibly changing his mind and not wanting to admit it. I don't buy it; first because I don't think iGrok is that stubborn that he wouldn't admit that he changed his read, second the way he talks about me indicates that he still thinks I'm strongly scum.

- Hiro

CLARIFICATION:

YOU ARE SCUM

iGrok

United States5142 Posts

July 03 2012 17:04 GMT

#349

talismania was a pressure vote and it worked.

Saturn is scum but we're waiting to kill him until tomorrow so we can see how tonight works out.

grush is a hyper-lurker who is doing jack-all, and is a good scummy candidate.

How is this difficult to follow?

iGrok

United States5142 Posts

July 03 2012 17:32 GMT

#351

On July 04 2012 02:28 HomerunBat wrote:
Also cats. How is this difficult to follow?

iGrok

United States5142 Posts

July 03 2012 17:37 GMT

#353

Maybe I should start posting in hex, it seems people followed better when I did that.

iGrok

United States5142 Posts

July 03 2012 20:12 GMT

#371

I'd still rather lynch grush. Its going to be impossible to get any information out of him. Read his past games, nothing but oneliners the whole time.

iGrok

United States5142 Posts

July 03 2012 20:13 GMT

#372

Oh wait, I forgot that this is the only way people can follow my thoughts:

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iGrok

United States5142 Posts

July 03 2012 21:00 GMT

#393

HBR, just because I don't tell you my reasoning doesn't mean I don't have any.
This might help:http://www.string-functions.com/hex-string.aspx

iGrok

United States5142 Posts

July 03 2012 21:31 GMT

#415

On July 04 2012 06:29 Risen wrote:
Also.

##unvote
##vote: GRUSH57

BM is NOT the person you want to emulate when playing games with me.

JEsus you may be right... what if Grush is BM's smurf

iGrok

United States5142 Posts

July 03 2012 21:35 GMT

#418

I could see either one. And both make me want to lynch the ever-loving hell out of grush

iGrok

United States5142 Posts

July 03 2012 22:38 GMT

#477

Ok, got the game mostly figured out. One more relationship I need to prod. Looking forward to the night actions.

iGrok

United States5142 Posts

July 03 2012 23:35 GMT

#508

On July 04 2012 07:46 Risen wrote:

Show nested quote +

Agreed. His results shall come, just keep heading towards that light at the end of the tunnel! Wait... it's day 4 already? Where did all the other townies go?

Lol. Every time I've mentioned waiting, its been for Day2. Nice try though.

iGrok

United States5142 Posts

July 04 2012 06:20 GMT

#513

changes to DK and kirby that I can spot. Anything else?

iGrok

United States5142 Posts

July 04 2012 22:54 GMT

#587

dedede I want to buy you a cookie.

##push Risen
##Vote: grush57

Risen I won't push you if you claim.

iGrok

United States5142 Posts

July 04 2012 22:54 GMT

#588

Do you guys mind if I wait to post until after the Zebes flip?

iGrok

United States5142 Posts

July 04 2012 22:55 GMT

#589

Or I can post in a few hours (have a party to go to and then I'll finish the writeup when I get home)

iGrok

United States5142 Posts

July 04 2012 23:02 GMT

#592

On July 05 2012 08:01 Cephiro wrote:
Going to go sleep, I'll be back in ~9 hours.

If the majority doesn't mind, I'll post which zone I want people to be in for the item when I'm back.

@iGrok, I'd really prefer to see those thoughts of yours asap... they better be posted when I wake up!

they will. Tell me where you want to me!

iGrok

United States5142 Posts

July 05 2012 11:11 GMT

#651

When I got back from the party I crashed. Writing now, will post within 30 minutes

Sorry Ceph

iGrok

United States5142 Posts

July 05 2012 11:55 GMT

#671

The Reasoning behind everything

When I got my role, I decided to play like Palmar. I would lead the town Day1, be balls-to-the-wall aggressive, and force scum into slipping that way. I don't really play this style ever, but I wanted to try it out.

To start off, Town needed some information to work with. Not a full massclaim, but something to keep D1 from being a random lynch. That's why I asked everyone to claim if they got their first choice. If we learned anything by doing this, the rest of the town roles (kirbys, yoshis, Ness, DK). As it turned out, this confirmed Saturn and Cephiro to be samuses, not because Grush claimed not-first pick, but because they confirmed it. This also means that grush was telling the truth, which as scum he shouldn't want to in that situation. dedede's claim was really unexpected but I like it, as long as there was Town KP they'd draw the shot before a busdriver.

Ceph and Saturn don't have to be one scum, but it was very likely. So I picked one of them to carry. Gut feeling said Saturn was scum, so I carried him

Then we needed a way to deal with items and locations. By making one person each night pick, I'd be able to learn their motives, and by going first I would see who tried to do anti-town things instead. The first list was literally running down the order. Then I decided to change things up a bit. I pulled out Risen and sat out Tali. Risen had posted a total of 1 times, so I sat him out. And I felt like Tali was sheeping me a little because his reads were similar, so I sat him as well. Then Risen exploded, and that fight was... revealing. At the time, to me he felt like a dumb townie more than scum, but he got a Grey box (I use Green, Red, and Gray shades to mark people - Gray means somethings not right but I don't get a strong scum vibe)

Unfortunately, I derped on my own location, but this was almost ok because it generated a fight that revealed something about Saturn. [/i]Saturn hates me and plans on shooting me, yet doesn't try to lynch me.[/i] This is a huge red flag, and solidified my scum read on him.

I still felt that one of Ceph and Saturn were scum. So, rather than lynch into them, I figured that we could let scum tell us. I wanted to wait on my reads until the next day to see who they shot, and then go after the other as scum. There was a small chance that neither was, but I'm basically playing a game of probabilities.

I wanted something to work with on each player. That's why I suggested lynching lurkers. I already had reads on the non-lurkers, but I needed something to work with on Grush and Tali to find the remaining scum. And it seemed to work pretty well, as voting for them got them typing and lynching grush gave us something to work with.

Imagine if we hadn't found out grush was a Falcon. You think he would have claimed the shot? With his activity record? I don't think so.

Honestly, what happened last night is obvious. Scum1 and Scum2 (grush) shot cephiro as a town kp that most people agreed was town. Thankfully, dedede bussed ceph out of the way, and Risen got shot instead. Unfortunately, this means I'm also down to 1/2 kp damage.

So the remaining question is who is the last scum? The answer is not quite that simple. Its either Risen or Mr.Saturn. The fact that Saturn said he would shoot me but didn't try to lynch me. Yeah, he voted for me but there was 0 pressure behind it. Saturn's behavior is incredibly scummy. And yet, he isn't who we should lynch or push. Assuming that all scum are included in the set of [grush, Risen, Saturn], town has this game won by tomorrow.

We push Risen. This kills him. It will also kill me, but I'm ok with that as long as town doesn't derp. Odds are he flips scum, but Regardless of Risn's Flip, we lynch grush, who we know is scum. This kills grush. So now, 2/3 scum candidates are gone. Finally, if Risen wasn't scum, Ceph can shoot Saturn at night, and lynch him the next day (or somehow do .5 damage to him). This is how you win and cover all your bases.

Again, sorry this is late, I crashed after the 4th of July party last night.

##Push: Risen
##Vote: Grush