EPTRisen, for your suggestion to be true, not only would dedede have to be lying, but so would grush, who is town in your scenario.
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HomerunBat
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Risen, for your suggestion to be true, not only would dedede have to be lying, but so would grush, who is town in your scenario. | ||
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Risen
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On July 05 2012 21:40 HomerunBat wrote: I really didn't like his behavior as the town reads became stronger. He ran out of room to hide. I posted a BS case on Tali and Saturn jumped all over it. Risen, for your suggestion to be true, not only would dedede have to be lying, but so would grush, who is town in your scenario. How is grush lying? He shot cephiro it got bounced to me. I'll drop my harping on cephiro/dedede if you can show me the lie. I'm all for the confirmed town cephiro/dedede circle jerk if grush is lying. | ||
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HomerunBat
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I still think dedede is town though. It's the simplest explanation. | ||
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Toadesstern
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On July 05 2012 20:08 HomerunBat wrote: Toad isn't around now, but I guess I'll ask anyway Is DK's carry ability affected by the bus-driver? NO IT IS NOT. DK'S GRABBING OR DK DAMAGING SOMEONE HE IS HOLDING IS NOT AFFECTED BY A BUSDRIVER NOR BY POSSIBLE ROLEBLOCKS. NEITHER IS KIRBY EATING SOMEONE SOMETHING THAT CAN BE AFFECTED BY A BUSDRIVER OR A ROLEBLOCKER. LOL I GOT "NINJAED" ALSO KEEP IN MIND: WE NEED TO KNOW WHO YOU ARE PUSHING VIA PM'S AS MENTIONED IN THE OP: PLANET ZEBES: ONCE A DAY ACID WILL RAISE (AFTER 24 HOURS). PM ##PUSH PLAYERNAME* TO THE HOSTS TO PUSH SOMEONE INTO THE ACID. THE ONE WITH THE MOST PUSHES WILL BE PUSHED IN THE ACID LOSING 1STOCK. ANYONE FAILING TO PUSH SOMEONE WILL ALSO LOSE 1 STOCK! | ||
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Risen
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On July 05 2012 21:48 HomerunBat wrote: Cancel that, I had assumed that your theory had dedede lying about the switch. You said clearly earlier that that wasn't the case. I still think dedede is town though. It's the simplest explanation. Why isn't mine the simplest explanation? New to mafia grush trusts my judgement on cephiro (bc he thinks I'm town) and shoots cephiro. Dedede and cephiro cook up their bus driver plan and use their mafia bullet on cephiro while simultaneously protecting cephiro with the bus. Dedede doesn't need the protection since everyone pretty much thinks he's town. He's also right in his initial assessment that no one will shoot me bc no one thinks I'm scum so it's a safe bus for his buddy cephiro. Simple, effective, and look at all the town cred they got. And I would have been all with it had cephiro not played like an idiot and said igrok was his most town read. | ||
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iGrok
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iGrok
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On July 05 2012 22:03 Risen wrote: do I need to re pm hosts if I only sent push cephiro and not ##push cephiro? Lol. You know what would take less effort asking this? Just PMing ##push. So why are you saying this in public? | ||
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Risen
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On July 05 2012 22:02 iGrok wrote: you like your case more than mine because in yours you don't die and get to shoot people. You have yet to say anything constructive about my case. Why is it wrong? I expected more than this trash from someone who hosts. I hope you're mafia. Then I can say gg you got me and not have to put you on my list of people I'll never play with. | ||
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Risen
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On July 05 2012 22:05 iGrok wrote: Lol. You know what would take less effort asking this? Just PMing ##push. So why are you saying this in public? I'm in san francisco on my phone. Going through the pm process is a pain, plus if anyone else was wondering about this it will be answered. How are you a host of anything? | ||
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Toadesstern
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On July 05 2012 22:03 Risen wrote: do I need to re pm hosts if I only sent push cephiro and not ##push cephiro? NO I AM SMART ENOUGH TO FIGURE THAT OUT. | ||
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HomerunBat
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iGrok
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Anyways, your "case" is that Cephiro and dedede are scum together? Is that right? Ok, for the moment I'll suspend my read on you. I just... literally everyone is scummier than those two. Literally. Even me. I don't understand why you think they are scum, other than that its a convenient reasoning for the night actions. But this means that they would have had to plan it since the early part of Day1 when dedede claimed (10 hours into D1). So their goal was to make Ceph look like a townie. But lets look at their other actions. Cephiro fully supports the Kingmaker plan. dedede also fully supports it. But most importantly, dedede pushes a lynch off of tali. if the scum team is Ceph&dedede, he wouldn't do that. | ||
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Risen
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On July 05 2012 22:10 HomerunBat wrote: Risen, if you really think dedede is scum, then make the case using his filter. Your scenario is possible, yes, but it doesn't stand on it's own merits just because it is possible. If dedede is scum then his filter will have scummy stuff in it. I looked, and I don't see it. If you want to convince people, show us how he is scummy. What scummy stuff does anyone need this game? If I was scum on that team I'd push grush, then I'd push tali, then risen, then igrok if it even mattered at that point. Know what's screwing us right now? Lurking. Wtf grush where you at? posting a lot is pro town bc you can be caught in lies, examined for logical play by what you do compared to what you say, etc. posting a lot: very rarely bad for town, neutral for scum. Lurking: very often bad for town, rarely bad for scum. | ||
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HomerunBat
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On July 05 2012 21:10 Mister Saturn wrote: Anyway, I still think Talismania might be scum. However I'm fine with pushing risen (I'll have to see what hiro thinks before we change our actions) since he might be scum (although I don't think he is, i still think his explosion at the start seemed townish) and since I still think you might be scum who is only just now trying the "bwahaha, I planned it all along I was playing scummy on purpose to see how people react" gambit. Just look at this. Can we pretty please push Mr. Saturn? | ||
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Risen
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On July 05 2012 22:17 iGrok wrote: Lol, you're attacking my credibility as a host? What? Anyways, your "case" is that Cephiro and dedede are scum together? Is that right? Ok, for the moment I'll suspend my read on you. I just... literally everyone is scummier than those two. Literally. Even me. I don't understand why you think they are scum, other than that its a convenient reasoning for the night actions. But this means that they would have had to plan it since the early part of Day1 when dedede claimed (10 hours into D1). So their goal was to make Ceph look like a townie. But lets look at their other actions. Cephiro fully supports the Kingmaker plan. dedede also fully supports it. But most importantly, dedede pushes a lynch off of tali. if the scum team is Ceph&dedede, he wouldn't do that. Why not? He pushes it from one townie to another in that scenario. I'm not saying it's rock solid. I'm all for lynching grush right now. If he flips town I think my case gains a lot of steam, if he's scum I'm going to die but then I think it narrows it down to tali/ms as the last scum. | ||
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iGrok
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Pushing Saturn accomplishes nothing. | ||
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