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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
July 05 2012 13:25 GMT
#721
On July 05 2012 22:25 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 22:17 iGrok wrote:
Lol, you're attacking my credibility as a host? What?

Anyways, your "case" is that Cephiro and dedede are scum together? Is that right?


Ok, for the moment I'll suspend my read on you.
I just... literally everyone is scummier than those two. Literally. Even me. I don't understand why you think they are scum, other than that its a convenient reasoning for the night actions. But this means that they would have had to plan it since the early part of Day1 when dedede claimed (10 hours into D1). So their goal was to make Ceph look like a townie. But lets look at their other actions.

Cephiro fully supports the Kingmaker plan. dedede also fully supports it.
But most importantly, dedede pushes a lynch off of tali. if the scum team is Ceph&dedede, he wouldn't do that.


Why not? He pushes it from one townie to another in that scenario. I'm not saying it's rock solid. I'm all for lynching grush right now. If he flips town I think my case gains a lot of steam, if he's scum I'm going to die but then I think it narrows it down to tali/ms as the last scum.

Yes, we'll lynch grush.

But we're pushing you first.
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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 13:27 GMT
#722
On July 05 2012 22:23 iGrok wrote:
Push Risen. Kill us both. Then lynch grush.


I'm not carrying you I'm carrying cephiro. I like the ms push since that pretty much makes you invulnerable should ms be scum.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
July 05 2012 13:29 GMT
#723
On July 05 2012 22:27 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 22:23 iGrok wrote:
Push Risen. Kill us both. Then lynch grush.


I'm not carrying you I'm carrying cephiro. I like the ms push since that pretty much makes you invulnerable should ms be scum.

When did you switch your carry?
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18074 Posts
July 05 2012 13:30 GMT
#724
Come cuddle me, Risen. I like your theory. It makes sense. It just has one major flaw: I'm town. So take off your tinfoil hat and start helping town by finding actual scum, instead of conspiracy theories.

As for who to push, I'm not sure on Risen. I just really don't see how a scummy Risen would go so batshit insane against everybody. It draws a giant amount of attention for no reason. I don't see why he would push his reads so aggressively against the one person everybody has marked as town. I'll ask Artanis what he thinks.

I am going to reevaluate how iGrok's plan makes sense if he's scum. I mean, the second he flips scum we ignore the rest of his plan, so unless his partner in crime has concocted up some wild plan for how to win the game alone, I'm going with iGrok being town as well.

Pushing two townies to death sounds like a pretty bad idea atm. Gonna talk to Artanis about what he wants to do.

/Acro
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 13:31 GMT
#725
On July 05 2012 22:25 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 22:25 Risen wrote:
On July 05 2012 22:17 iGrok wrote:
Lol, you're attacking my credibility as a host? What?

Anyways, your "case" is that Cephiro and dedede are scum together? Is that right?


Ok, for the moment I'll suspend my read on you.
I just... literally everyone is scummier than those two. Literally. Even me. I don't understand why you think they are scum, other than that its a convenient reasoning for the night actions. But this means that they would have had to plan it since the early part of Day1 when dedede claimed (10 hours into D1). So their goal was to make Ceph look like a townie. But lets look at their other actions.

Cephiro fully supports the Kingmaker plan. dedede also fully supports it.
But most importantly, dedede pushes a lynch off of tali. if the scum team is Ceph&dedede, he wouldn't do that.


Why not? He pushes it from one townie to another in that scenario. I'm not saying it's rock solid. I'm all for lynching grush right now. If he flips town I think my case gains a lot of steam, if he's scum I'm going to die but then I think it narrows it down to tali/ms as the last scum.

Yes, we'll lynch grush.

But we're pushing you first.


Right you do that. Meanwhile anyone with half a brain will be pushing ms. I'll be changing my carry to ms as well.

Here's my reasoning. If ms is scum and I get pushed it makes you invulnerable. If ms gets pushed you're invulnerable. Either way you're going to be sitting pretty.

This falls apart if cephiro/dedede are scum though. We should be able to kill them once it's realized they're scum, though (if they are)
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
July 05 2012 13:32 GMT
#726
How does pushing Saturn make me "invulnerable" lol.

You think Ceph and dedede are scum so you want to push saturn?
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
July 05 2012 13:34 GMT
#727
Risen says that pushing him won't kill me. Seeing as I was willing to push him before, I'm super willing to now. Shove him into the magma!
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 13:34 GMT
#728
On July 05 2012 22:29 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 22:27 Risen wrote:
On July 05 2012 22:23 iGrok wrote:
Push Risen. Kill us both. Then lynch grush.


I'm not carrying you I'm carrying cephiro. I like the ms push since that pretty much makes you invulnerable should ms be scum.

When did you switch your carry?


I'm on my phone and really don't want to dig for it. I clearly announced I was carrying cephiro, though. (has changed to ms as soon as I go through and pm all the mods)
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 13:35 GMT
#729
On July 05 2012 22:32 iGrok wrote:
How does pushing Saturn make me "invulnerable" lol.

You think Ceph and dedede are scum so you want to push saturn?


It's becoming clear you don't actually read my posts.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
July 05 2012 13:35 GMT
#730
I mean, was it at night or today
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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 13:36 GMT
#731
DERP, our carry changes at night. Sorry igrok.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 13:38 GMT
#732
On July 05 2012 22:35 iGrok wrote:
I mean, was it at night or today


I sent it in during this whole argument and thought it changed immediately. Doesn't change until night, my bad.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 13:40 GMT
#733
My plan is logical. But my plan was the logical one when I was the detective and no one followed that so I don't know what I'm expecting here.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
HomerunBat
Profile Joined June 2012
Oman114 Posts
July 05 2012 13:42 GMT
#734
Explain to me again iGrok how taking a stock off scum #2 is a bad idea?

I don't agree with your big post, because I don't see the need to kill a townie before winning the game.
*PING*
HomerunBat
Profile Joined June 2012
Oman114 Posts
July 05 2012 13:42 GMT
#735
ebwop: 2 townies
*PING*
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 13:44 GMT
#736
EBWOP: this is great! Push ms, lynch grush. If town, dedede/cephiro mafia, if scum, lynch risen (town flip) then lynch tali/ms(I'm assuming ms will be dead at this point, though)

Problem here: igrok or homerun are scum. Then gg, you played well and I was fooled.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 13:48 GMT
#737
I'm of course assuming dedede isn't scum if grush is. A bus on cephiro with grush as a team mate still gets dedede the cred he needs, but I'm not seeing him being scum in that scenario. Why not use your bus to protect your team mate.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 13:59 GMT
#738
Everyone went to sleep :/
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
July 05 2012 14:02 GMT
#739
@HRB:
I'm more convinced Risen is scum than Saturn. Thats why.
But, you've given me an idea. Ceph, will you shoot saturn tonight?
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 14:12 GMT
#740
On July 05 2012 23:02 iGrok wrote:
@HRB:
I'm more convinced Risen is scum than Saturn. Thats why.
But, you've given me an idea. Ceph, will you shoot saturn tonight?


You're not this stupid. I know you're not. You can't be. So why is igrok being so stupid. I'm blank, does anyone else know why he would be doing this? I can only think that he's afraid of dedede/cephiro team shooting him and removing his last stock, so he acts dense, but at the same time he knows pushing me into the lava will kill himself, so what gives?

He must be 100% that I'm scum in order to be willing to trade lives, but why? Are you stupid enough to think there has to be a dk on both sides, and then you'll complain that it's imbalanced for town to have 2 dks post game? (i must admit I auto thought you were scum when you were revealed as dk for this reason, but then I actually used my brain. if you kill me under the mistaken impression town can only have one dk don't bitch about it post game)

His play literally makes no sense.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
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