I want to talk about
Risen.
I'll try to keep this brief as I can, but it's going to be a longer post, so brace yourselves.
Let's start with who he has been casting suspicion on. I was going to quote all the posts but I'll just summarize. Go have a look at his filter for verification.
He has very obviously been on
iGrok since day 1.
He described a post by
cephiro as 'so scummy,' and outlined in another post how he is scum playing dumb.
He commented that
Mister Saturn should be higher than rank 5 on cephiro's suspicion list, due to scum Mr. S potentially playing the 'emokid' on purpose
He voted
grush57 for emulating BM
He voted
talismania at the last minute. Prior to this he had voted talismania for accusing him. He also found talismania's list weird for outing blues, despite the fact that that was public knowledge.
He voted for
HomerunBat because we were so sure iGrok was town. He told Mr. Saturn to vote for us as well.
The only person missing from this list is kingdedede. He is a town read for cephiro, and I think he looks pretty town too. When I tried to think of someone who I had a stronger town read on, it wasn't easy. So to sum up, Risen has been on pretty much everyone in the game at different times, minus possibly the strongest town read in the game. He has been casting suspicion on anything that moves. Keep this in mind as we move forward.
Now have a look at this:
On July 04 2012 06:28 Risen wrote:
Well then lame... I still think people should vote for who they think is scum simply b/c a lynch != a flip. We don't gain information from a lynch like we normally would. At the same time, we have to put pressure on people we think are scum so it's not like we SHOULD be no-lynching. I just think putting a vote on someone you don't think is scum so you can be on one of the major targets is silly.
He wants to vote for people who are scum regardless of what the vote-count it. He doesn't think you should be voting someone you don't think is scum just to bandwagon on a major target. Our major targets as the lynch approached were grush57 and talismania.
Check it:
On July 04 2012 06:29 Risen wrote:
Also.
##unvote
##vote: GRUSH57
BM is NOT the person you want to emulate when playing games with me.
Thirty minutes later:
On July 04 2012 06:59 Risen wrote:##unvote
##vote: talismaniaLAST SECOND SWAP LIKE I SAID I WOULD FUCK YOU CEPHIRO!!!!
AGREED!!!
He broke both his own rules here. He voted against his best scum reads (who I assume are me and iGrok, more on this in a sec), and tacked on to both of our major targets.
Now his latest post:
On July 04 2012 12:35 Risen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2012 10:01 Mister Saturn wrote:
EBWOP:
You don't think HomerunBat is scum anymore, Risen?
I don't actually have super strong scum reads on anyone. Not sure I could so early in the game. iGrok and homerunbat top my list followed by t and you. But if you shoot iGrok to death you'll be my favorite person in this game.
So the sum total of all his day 1 efforts...he thinks iGrok and I are the scummiest. He did jack shit to push us beyond momentary sparks amongst his accusations of pretty much everyone in the thread. Even after all that shit flinging, brazenly calling everybody and their mother scum, he has no strong scum reads? To me it looks like he is trying to look busy without actually doing anything.
Last, small part, has to do with meta. I looked at TL Mafia LI and LIII. He was town in the former and scum in the latter. I didn't find anything extremely telling, as he plays pretty similar as both town and scum.
There is one thing I noticed though. He was fond of using the old 'lol guys it's day 1 I have no reads' when he was scum, and it was nowhere to be seen when he was town.
Here's the links for your perusal
LI -
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=325046LIII -
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=329128