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On July 05 2012 17:11 Cephiro wrote:
Okay, woken up and caught up on the thread.
So wait, if Risen is speaking the truth and got roleblocked, that means I not only took scum KP and grush's shot but a roleblock too? O_o
So that would mean either talis, HomerunBat or Risen himself is a Jigglypuff.
I'd have to guess it's one of the latter two, so Risen, did you try to roleblock me? Or is someone lying about their role? If everyone speaks the truth, then one of talis, HomerunBat and Risen has to be a jigglypuff, or then I'm missing something.
It's possible they can roleblock your charge, forcing you to delay your shot until night 3.
What would happen if a Samus were roleblocked on a night when they don't fire?
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Mr. Saturn: Top Left
Talismania: Top Right
Homerunbat: Bot Right
Risen: Sit Out
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On July 05 2012 16:06 Risen wrote:
So not only was I bussed onto I was roleblocked. Awesome.
SORRY FORGOT ABOUT THAT. WILL UPDATE IN SOMETHING LIKE 3 HOURS. I HAVE TO LEAVE RIGHT NOW OR I'LL MISS MY TRAIN
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On July 05 2012 18:12 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 17:11 Cephiro wrote:
Okay, woken up and caught up on the thread.
So wait, if Risen is speaking the truth and got roleblocked, that means I not only took scum KP and grush's shot but a roleblock too? O_o
So that would mean either talis, HomerunBat or Risen himself is a Jigglypuff.
I'd have to guess it's one of the latter two, so Risen, did you try to roleblock me? Or is someone lying about their role? If everyone speaks the truth, then one of talis, HomerunBat and Risen has to be a jigglypuff, or then I'm missing something. It's possible they can roleblock your charge, forcing you to delay your shot until night 3. What would happen if a Samus were roleblocked on a night when they don't fire?
IF SAMUS IS ROLEBLOCKED WHEN HE'S NOT CHARGED HE NEEDS ANOTHER NIGHT TO CHARGE.
IF SAMUS IS ROLEBLOCKED WHEN HE IS CHARGED AND SHOOTS HE KEEPS THAT CHARGE BUT DOES NOT SHOOT.
IF SAMUS IS ROLEBLOCKEN WHEN HE IS CHARGED BUT CHOOSES TO NOT SHOOT HE KEEPS THAT CHARGE AND NOTHING CHANGES AT ALL
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Okay, I need more information from Risen before deciding on what the hell happened last night. If Risen is claiming he was roleblocked, he should say so more clearly (he should've gotten a PM). In that case someone tried to roleblock Cephiro. If Risen's action failed for some other reason I can only think of three viable options:
1. There's two Kirbies gunning for the same power. In that case he should've received a message as per the OP.
2. He's a Capt. Falcon and he shot someone protected by a Ness. In this case he wouldn't get a PM (I don't think), but don't really understand why he's up in arms about it. Anybody want to claim getting shot and protected?
3. He's a Ness and protected himself. In this case he's just confused about how the bus driver works.
In general, however, this whole unknown role thing with half the people unaccountable for what they did at night is getting thoroughly out of control. I still think a mass claim is a good idea.
iGrok seems to think claiming is a good idea too and is throwing up giant red flags with his play. Yes, I know I said his reaction to derping was townie, but I really don't like how he's playing in general.
1. He opposes a mass roleclaim but is pressuring everybody to claim, going so far as to lynch or push people into the lava just to get their rolename. I know his role is already out, but maybe he's protecting his scumbuddy from having to claim while simultaneously pressuring other people into claiming? I dunno. Just don't like it.
2. He threw his vote around almost as badly as Risen with no decent explanation. He voted for Tali for "pressure", yelled at Saturn because he's scum (but ironically didn't want to actually lynch Saturn, because it gives no information) and finally settled on Grush, as a lurker lynch and to get his rolename. Now he wants to push Risen into the lava unless he claims. Seems to me he just wants to do damage without really finding scum.
3. He has promised an explanation of ALL his actions a couple of times now without actually giving the damned explanation. The last time was over 10 hours ago when he promised to do it the minute he got home.
Now none of these alone is really enough, but when you put it all together and read the rest of his filter, it feels like scum, despite him throwing me off with his reaction to derping it up.
Also, for all you setup speculators, a scum donkey kong is a bit like a PGO, which, imho is probably one of the most ridiculously overpowered scum roles possible. If town has so much firepower at its disposition as seems to be the case, then giving scum a PGO/vengeful townie kinda balances it out.
I want to push iGrok into the lava. If he's holding onto a townie, we're going to have to deal with that at some point anyway. Might as well do it now and make him lynchable. The lynch should be between him and Grush imho. Not yet sure which one has a higher chance of flipping scum.
##push iGrok
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SCREW THE TRAIN I'VE GOT ENOUGH TIME IF I MAKE IT QUICK:
UPDATE:
iGROK TAKES 2 STOCK WORTH OF DAMAGE AS WELL. UPDATED THE DAY2-POST AS WELL.
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Ninja'd by toad. Guess we'll wait 3 hours to see what Risen was on about.
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Oh what the hell. What just happened? What does 2 damage?
Did iGrok pick HIMSELF up?
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There we go. I wasn't role blocked, iGrok just didn't take his dmg.
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Also, unless iGrok dropped ms or was role blocked ms should be dead.
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On July 05 2012 19:38 Acrofales wrote:
Oh what the hell. What just happened? What does 2 damage?
Did iGrok pick HIMSELF up?
IT'S AN UPDATE FROM FOR THE DAY-2 POST. THE DAMAGE HAPPENED THAT MOMENT AND NOT JUST NOW
BUT I'M GONE NOW OR IS SERIOUSLY MISS THE TRAIN. BRB IN 3 HOURS
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If DK 1 is carrying DK 2, does a hit taken by DK 1 carry over to DK 2, and all the way to the player X DK 2 is carrying?
If I understood it right, I got shot by scum + grush, dedede bussed me and Risen, Risen took a double hit, and he is a DK carrying iGrok, resulting in iGrok losing 2 stock also.
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On July 05 2012 19:40 Risen wrote:
Also, unless iGrok dropped ms or was role blocked ms should be dead.
DON'T FORGET ABOUT THE HOTFIXES FROM 2 DAYS AGO
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Cephiro I think you got it right.
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On July 05 2012 19:44 Cephiro wrote:
If DK 1 is carrying DK 2, does a hit taken by DK 1 carry over to DK 2, and all the way to the player X DK 2 is carrying?
If I understood it right, I got shot by scum + grush, dedede bussed me and Risen, Risen took a double hit, and he is a DK carrying iGrok, resulting in iGrok losing 2 stock also.
DONKEYKONG YOU ARE DONKEYKONG! YOU CAN CARRY SOMEONE ON YOUR BACK! IF YOU LOSE STOCK, THEY WILL TOO! YOU MAY CHOOSE A TARGET AT THE START OF THE GAME AND CHANGE EVERY NIGHT!
YOUR ABILITY DOESN'T TRIGGER WHEN BEING HIT BY A DK-ABILITY
CHANGING YOUR TARGET AT NIGHT ALREADY CHANGES IT FOR THAT NIGHT CONSIDERING YOUR DAMAGE DONE
THAT MEANS
1) NO INFINITE LOOP OF DAMAGE WHEN DK'S ARE GRABBING EACH OTHER
(DK 1 does 1 dmg to DK 2 -> DK2 1 damage to DK1 -> DK1 1 damage to DK2 -> aaand so on, that would be retarded)
2) NO CHAINING DK'S
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"YOUR ABILITY DOESN'T TRIGGER WHEN BEING HIT BY A DK-ABILITY"
that's why Mr. Saturn is alive
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ALSO NOW I'M SERIOUSLY GONE GUYS :3
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On July 05 2012 19:45 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 19:40 Risen wrote:
Also, unless iGrok dropped ms or was role blocked ms should be dead. DON'T FORGET ABOUT THE HOTFIXES FROM 2 DAYS AGO
Agh fuck me I thought that just prevented it from looping 
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That makes sense. But where does the damage iGrok took go? Seems like there's KP missing in that case.
Need people to claim. My mind is being blown.
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Ahhh, ok. Ninja'd. Now it all makes sense.
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