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BobTheLob
Canada362 Posts
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AmericanUmlaut
Germany2580 Posts
On July 10 2012 04:34 BobTheLob wrote: I would Vote you, the arguments are much better against you then against Ulmaut as well despite me liking you more. I'm 99% sure that Keirathi is scum and his play has really been annoying me, but we're in complete agreement about how frustrating this kind of play is :-/. If you are more persuaded by the arguments against Hopeless than those against me, you should be voting Hopeless. We're at LYLO - if you help push a mislynch on me over the edge, the game is over and you lost it for us. If you're determined to play this way, then that's up to you, and I hope that it still somehow manages to lynch the right guys, but it's really frustrating, especially when we're down to brass tacks and need town to be playing at its absolute best. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On July 10 2012 04:35 AmericanUmlaut wrote: If you were a real DT, why wouldn't you know and share the results of your first night's investigations? If Keirathi were (hypothetically speaking) a DT, wouldn't he have been given his predecessor's reads upon taking over his slot? I don't know why I don't have that information. When I was placed in, it wasn't given to me by ghost. I assumed it was because either BlinD had been AFK and didnt investigate anyone, or it was irrelevent information. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On July 10 2012 04:39 BobTheLob wrote: Prom is who I think but I don't think Ulmaut is in at all, Hopeless has a better chance than Ulmaut to be scum IMO. There is literally 0.0000001% chance that Prom and Hopeless are both scum. What part of this do you not understand? If you believe that Prom is scum, I don't see how you can believe that Hopeless is too. I just don't get it. | ||
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AmericanUmlaut
Germany2580 Posts
On July 10 2012 04:40 Keirathi wrote: I don't know why I don't have that information. When I was placed in, it wasn't given to me by ghost. I assumed it was because either BlinD had been AFK and didnt investigate anyone, or it was irrelevent information. Seems like a real DT would have realized they were missing important information and let us know about it when claiming. Scum trying to be clever and roleclaim into the first day of LYLO, though, might easily have forgotten about it in the rush to write up the post and only thought to put in reads from the days he'd actually been playing. | ||
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
On July 10 2012 04:37 Keirathi wrote: This makes no sense. You think Prom is scum, but you would vote for Hopeless? Prom has literally been pushing Hopeless all day. It is very, very obvious that they aren't BOTH. So do you think Prom is scum, or do you think Hopeless is? You totally ignore any possibility of a bus, you are working to distort facts to make your case seem like it has weight. Hopeless is scummier than Umlat and you are too. Your lack of first night dt check is a total flaw in your claim. We'll lynch you next. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On July 10 2012 04:43 Promethelax wrote: You totally ignore any possibility of a bus, you are working to distort facts to make your case seem like it has weight. Hopeless is scummier than Umlat and you are too. How am I distorting facts? The simple fact of the matter at this point is that the most likely possibility is that either you and UA are working together as scum, or me and Hopeless are. That's what the last 3 people have to decide on. Which one of the two sides to believe. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
In addition, Promethelax is one of the players who has built up a case against me. In fact, I believe it is his case that is responsible for me being accused of being scum. Given that you think Promethelax is scum, his case should not have valuable merit to you, or it should look very suspicious to you. If you think he is scum, there is a good chance that I am not scum and therefore you would do well to vote against the player that Promethelax voted for. The alternative is that we are both scum and Promethelax is sacrificing me for the good of the scum team. Figuring out this situation is the reason we want you to go through the thread and post your reads. It would make it clearer what your opinion is, and make it easier for us to decide who to vote for based on who out of the players most heavily involved are scummiest. | ||
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AmericanUmlaut
Germany2580 Posts
Myles, your last post was that Hopeless was a pretty obvious scum read. You were right. Get in here and join in the discussion! iamperfection, you're lurking again. :-( It's irrelevant to the discussion tonight, because we have better reads, but I'm starting to think that Milton's case on you was a tardy recognition of your true nature. What town player would simpy vanish for the entire day of LYLO play? Get in here and vote, and then get ready to explain why you shouldn't be lynched when we're done with Hopeless and Keirathi? | ||
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BobTheLob
Canada362 Posts
On July 10 2012 04:52 Hopeless1der wrote: Bob, you believe the arguments against me are more believable. However, you also believe that Prom is scummier than me. In addition, Promethelax is one of the players who has built up a case against me. In fact, I believe it is his case that is responsible for me being accused of being scum. Given that you think Promethelax is scum, his case should not have valuable merit to you, or it should look very suspicious to you. If you think he is scum, there is a good chance that I am not scum and therefore you would do well to vote against the player that Promethelax voted for. The alternative is that we are both scum and Promethelax is sacrificing me for the good of the scum team. Figuring out this situation is the reason we want you to go through the thread and post your reads. It would make it clearer what your opinion is, and make it easier for us to decide who to vote for based on who out of the players most heavily involved are scummiest. Yes you have a point but unfortunately it doesn't matter, he could be busing you or you might not be scum, what matters is what the others think, if we can get a vote on Prome and he gets lynched I think we win, but I think people will be voting you over him and Ulmaut. Also just because he might be scum does't make his reads any worse, I've gone through them and he's right on almost all of his points. I like Prome a lot but in my opinion he's scummy as hell. That's all I have to say for now, everything else I have to say would just be a rehashing of something said earlier. | ||
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AmericanUmlaut
Germany2580 Posts
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BobTheLob
Canada362 Posts
On July 10 2012 05:06 AmericanUmlaut wrote: Totally off topic, guys, but seriously, how hard is it to spell "Umlaut"? I've just been copying everybody else sorry | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On July 10 2012 05:06 AmericanUmlaut wrote: Totally off topic, guys, but seriously, how hard is it to spell "Umlaut"? People have been spelling my name Kier all game. At least I spell yours right :p | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On July 10 2012 05:05 BobTheLob wrote: Also just because he might be scum does't make his reads any worse, I've gone through them and he's right on almost all of his points.. Err, what? He was "99% sure Fencer was scum". His day 2 scumteam was Fencer, Intact, and Hopeless, which has obviously proven wrong so for every flip so far. Basically he hasn't made a single good read all game unless Hopeless flips scum. | ||
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AmericanUmlaut
Germany2580 Posts
On July 10 2012 05:12 Keirathi wrote: People have been spelling my name Kier all game. At least I spell yours right :p I've spelled yours right all game, too  You're still scum, though. | ||
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ghost_403
United States1825 Posts
AmericanUmlaut (2): Hopeless1der, Keirathi Hopeless1der (2): AmericanUmlaut, Promethelax Promethelax (1): BobTheLob Not yet voted: iamperfection, myles With 7 alive it takes 4 votes to lynch. 35 minutes remain | ||
Myles
United States5162 Posts
##Vote Hopeless1der | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
I gave them basically an equal read earlier today. My main reason not voting Prom instead of AU was that I didn't feel confident enough in my debate skill to convince people who had given Prom support and basically a free ride throughout the whole game to vote for him at this point. If he survived another night, maybe, but with the way today has gone, its virtually guaranteed that he will survive another night regardless of if he's scum or not. | ||
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AmericanUmlaut
Germany2580 Posts
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BobTheLob
Canada362 Posts
On July 10 2012 05:37 Keirathi wrote: Hopeless: how would you feel about voting Prom at this point instead of AU, if Bob is so against voting AU? I gave them basically an equal read earlier today. My main reason not voting Prom instead of AU was that I didn't feel confident enough in my debate skill to convince people who had given Prom support and basically a free ride throughout the whole game to vote for him at this point. If he survived another night, maybe, but with the way today has gone, its virtually guaranteed that he will survive another night regardless of if he's scum or not. I call bullshit on this, If you thought it was him then you should have at least said so, you are getting more and more scummy as the day goes on, what the fuck is up with that. | ||
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