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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 26 2012 15:22 GMT
#21
Why are PMs not allowed? It seems most of the guides treat them as almost standard fare, how will people coordinate and get oportunity to lie about each other?
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9648 Posts
June 26 2012 15:35 GMT
#22
/in
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-26 15:53:38
June 26 2012 15:45 GMT
#23
To clarify, townies are not allowed to communicate outside of the thread; the mafia are (only with each other). Mafia will be given links to a quicktopic thread where they will be allowed to communicate in private (PMs are also allowed, but discouraged. The QT allows us hosts to spy on you).

PM games have fallen out of favor on TL for whatever reason. Most of the more recent games here have been played out this way. Maybe tonight I'll sit down and find some guides that deal explicitly with non-PM games.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
BobTheLob
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada362 Posts
June 26 2012 15:46 GMT
#24
/in
BobTheLob Lurker extraordinaire
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-26 16:17:33
June 26 2012 16:06 GMT
#25
On June 27 2012 00:22 JingleHell wrote:
Why are PMs not allowed? It seems most of the guides treat them as almost standard fare, how will people coordinate and get oportunity to lie about each other?

Radfield (the guy who makes sure the newbie games are running smoothly) might be able to answer this better than I can, but I'll give it a shot.

The biggest reason is because PMs tend to lessen the learning experience (mostly because of the odds that a detective will team up with a townie mouth) without actually helping the skill level of the players. The point of these games is for you to get a taste of actively contributing in the game without relying too much on "follow the leader," which is often "follow the detective" in these sorts of games. Also, it's generally more fun for more players if they can all participate, rather than forcing townies to follow orders from a small circle of players while the mafia try to hunt down those players.

Another big reason for the No PM rule in newbie games is often you will see players coaching during the newbie games or hosts giving pointers after the game is over. It gets exponentially harder for a coach/host to give any sort of meaningful advice/pointers if half of the game was played in PM land rather than in the thread.

Much of the material from the guides should still be quite useful to you. In fact, they generally tell you to avoid relying too heavily on PMs and try to keep most information in the thread whenever possible. At the very least, the most important information in the guides is the stuff about how to post in the thread and how to read the thread. Learning how to do those two things well should be your focus right now if you are trying to improve.

Also, as ghost_403 mentioned, there are more non-PM games than PM games these days. That might change in the future, but that's the current trend. So a non-PM game will prepare you better for most of the games going on in the forum currently.
Uff Da
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
June 26 2012 19:20 GMT
#26
I'm /in. When is this starting?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
June 26 2012 19:56 GMT
#27
We still need two more players to start (and replacements would be nice, just in case). If it fills tonight, maybe as soon as at the time of the deadline tomorrow?
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-26 22:13:59
June 26 2012 21:51 GMT
#28
Damn I wish I had made it in time. QQ /in as a replacement if someone drops

Edit (muahahahahahaha): /in as a player too if those last two names on the list are troll names >.>

Double Edit (harharharhar): Should update thread title.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
June 27 2012 00:26 GMT
#29
/in
Get it started!
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 27 2012 00:31 GMT
#30
Woot.

When is this mysterious "deadline", and why is it the deadline?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
June 27 2012 01:13 GMT
#31
On June 26 2012 05:05 ghost_403 wrote:


Time Cycle:
This game will follow a 48 hour day cycle. In case I am not able to post around deadline, any votes after the 48 hour mark will not count and the game will be put on halt until the night post is up. Currently the deadline is 22:00 GMT (+00:00), but that is subject to change. Actions/votes will be accepted up to and including the posted time, but not after.




Im assuming its related to that deadline. But I could be wrong. Dead wrong. For crossing said line. Or something...
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 27 2012 01:16 GMT
#32
Ah, yes, I'm blind, thanks.
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
June 27 2012 01:23 GMT
#33
On June 27 2012 06:51 Risen wrote:
Damn I wish I had made it in time. QQ /in as a replacement if someone drops

Edit (muahahahahahaha): /in as a player too if those last two names on the list are troll names >.>

Double Edit (harharharhar): Should update thread title.

You're already breaking the rules fool!
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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 27 2012 01:43 GMT
#34
If people volunteer for coaching, how does that traditionally work?
Fencar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States2694 Posts
June 27 2012 03:47 GMT
#35
/in

This is how I join, right?
This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
June 27 2012 04:15 GMT
#36
Ghost give my spot to Fencer please. I think there's too many people otherwise and I'm in another game anyways.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51497 Posts
June 27 2012 06:17 GMT
#37
Boom

we have a full set.

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KT.FlaSh: START YO!

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xsksc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1044 Posts
June 27 2012 07:23 GMT
#38
On June 27 2012 10:43 JingleHell wrote:
If people volunteer for coaching, how does that traditionally work?

When I played in a newbie game, each coach was given a few players each to look after. Not sure if that's still the case, though.
They are there to assist you with anything you're unsure of. They don't play the game for you and they won't find scum for you, but they can give you the tools to do so.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 27 2012 12:29 GMT
#39
On June 27 2012 10:43 JingleHell wrote:
If people volunteer for coaching, how does that traditionally work?


mafia coach will usually be in mafia QT to answer any questions there.

townies can just PM a coach and ask for advice. I would strongly encourage you make use of it ^^
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 13:05:44
June 27 2012 13:05 GMT
#40
@marv: For that comment, I'm adding you as a coach ^^ (if ya don't mind.)
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
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