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On June 23 2012 09:12 risk.nuke wrote:
To explain my absence, yesterday was midsummer which is a huge festival and we have some old celebration traditions in Sweden. I intended going to go to sleep now and not make an appearance untill tomorrow morning but since there is already 5+ pages about lurker discussion I thought I might need to dive in tonight and fix this. Be back when I read the thread properly.
On June 25 2012 10:48 risk.nuke wrote:
Well shraft I have feelings about people. I've just been to lazy to share them with you. Also there is the bandwagon to analyze (which I still haven't done - probably have to do tomorrow) before I feel good posting thoughts.
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And why I never followed up which I said I would. Well read paragraph one again. I'm been to lazy to really look into why I feel like I do about some people.
On June 26 2012 16:30 risk.nuke wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 16:24 Probulous wrote:On June 26 2012 16:22 risk.nuke wrote:
VE you think rastabans scumread on me is genuine? Anyway I don't know if I want to lynch rastaban because when scum have attacked me with a bad case in the past they generally back of. And townies are more prone to do the kind of moron tunneling rastaban is doing. (Given though, in the past the ones who were townies kept making tunnelingcases and tried to get me lynched. Rastaban is just calling me his #1 which is lazy and seems more mafia-aligned. So is he mafia, town, SK or null? This post says he is tunelling like a townie but he is acting mafia aligned. Clarify please. Leaning mafia but I will be able to tell with alot more certainty tomorrow so I'll try to find someone better to lynch.
What is with everything being clearer tomorrow? We don't play this game in the future, we play it now.
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On June 26 2012 16:43 risk.nuke wrote:
I can tell you that rastaban genuinely feels like he's been looking for reasons why I am scum rather then looking for clues IF I am scum which is moronic tunneling and is one of the easiest ways for scum to appear like they are doing something
OK Risk, what about my Rastaban's townslip regarding Zephirdd? Here I'll think my post for you (Klicky)
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Heyo! Just got into work and wonder of wonders the deadline is extended. Hoorah for me /dance
Had a brief skim of the happenings and will take a closer look. Marvel claiming vig is a null thing to me. We can never know if he is telling the truth because scum will just roleblock him so we end up in the same position tomorrow. I even think that you having the same scum read today as yesterday is not relevant to your claim because vigs hardly ever shoot night 1. Changing your read just before the lynch however is an interesting point.
I will take another look at the early interactions between you two because VE got quite emotional early in the day before you two got into each other again. Why marv changed his read the second time and not the first is a question I would like answered.
If we are going to make a decision n marv, we make it now. Otherwise we waste another day and lose more townies overnight.
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On June 22 2012 08:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
LOL OKAY!!
On June 22 2012 09:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
:OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Anyways look what I found guys!
On June 22 2012 09:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
The original question that was posed you never answered Marv, wtf? You told everyone to go look for themselves!
There was a massive argument between VE and marv a fair while after these posts. It was way more intense though so maybe that is why he changed his mind.
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On June 27 2012 08:51 marvellosity wrote:
I'm not playing anything. I'm inviting town to have a field day by asking me anything they want, and hopefully it will help give them a townread on me. That's all I want right now.
Marv would you consider not shooting VE? I doubt we have enough time to reread your filter and VE's filter and change the whole town situation before the deadline. You're being obstinate again for no reason.
I am going to read the game again from the start of day 2 and see what I come up with. If you don't look townie as all hell, then my vote stands.
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To show I am serious
##unvote
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On June 27 2012 09:00 risk.nuke wrote:
Well we got roleblockers I assume in case he absolutely refuse and we still don't want to lynch him.
Who is the we here?
Our jailer was shot overnight 
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Ok I am willing to give you a break marv. I am up to your case on VE (which I still think is a bad case) and here are some townie things I've noticed.
On June 25 2012 09:01 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2012 08:58 slOosh wrote:
Let's not WIFOM at who we would shoot as scum. It won't produce anything substantial and allows scum to blend in and derails thread from what is truly important: hunting and lynching scum. Since there is finally some thread activity going on, I'll be happy to sit down and think carefully what the heck is going on. Probulous I'm still unhappy about your play this game, starting with the oversight in your Zentor vote. Of course this could be an honest mistake so I'm gonna sit on it for now. Still waiting for von Klaust as well. If you ignore me I'ma hound you down. You need to stop doing this. You keep asking people about Probulous and telling him you're suspicious, but all you're willing to say is that you didn't like his Zentor vote oversight. Either make a case or don't. Stop expecting others to answer for you, or telling Probulous he's suspicious with no way to make a defence as you won't actually make a case.
Which is correct. Bare in mind I am one of the main people pushing his wagon. He has no need to call out slOosh here. He could let slOosh sow the seeds of doubt and eventually post his case. Clearly someone thought slOsh was town enough to get "saved" (this was before the new day post). If marv is scum, he would know their shot was "blocked" and so know that slOosh has enough town credit to pick up a save. Surely it would make more sense for scum to just keep quiet and hope slOosh pushes his case against me. Marv could then join the wagon and possibly get one his main threats lynched. By calling slOosh out he is forcing him to allow me to defend, which is really townie.
Then he responds to my question about notifications etc. I was telling rastaban to take some time to think before he posts because he was spouting illogical nonsense.
On June 25 2012 09:19 marvellosity wrote:
mm. we need us some wbg action
On June 25 2012 09:21 marvellosity wrote:Probulous, no unwarranted prodding Show nested quote +On June 25 2012 08:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 25 2012 08:07 Probulous wrote:
If a person is jailed are they notified?
If so, is the notification the same as if they have been roleblocked? I'm uncertain. If such an event took place this night, I have not sent PM's about it. WBG will answer you once he gets online. rastaban was just saying we currently don't know what ppl are told
Marv calls me out to stop prodding rastaban based on the idea that rastaban was just telling people that we don't who was told what. This is wrong and is not why I was prodding him but then marv writes this.
On June 25 2012 09:21 marvellosity wrote:
oh, he wasn't saying that. i'll be quiet then.
Which was completely unprovoked. He went back, reread that section and then corrected himself without me having to ask. Why would scum do this? It is extra effort and doesn't make them look townie. It just clears things up, which is the opposite of what scum want.
On June 25 2012 20:54 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2012 19:49 prplhz wrote:
If you guys read the thread then it should be pretty obvious that slOosh jailed me last night. Tried to find what you were talking about, did not. Care to enlighten?
I am still waiting on the answer for this too. If anything it would make sense for slOosh to jail me given his suspicions of me. I can see scum blocking me as well but to assume that slOosh had no reason for blocking me is weird. He never explained this. The only thing that makes sense for me would be that scum would probably not block prpl over me (my guess) but this has nothing to do with slOosh's filter. Anyway, back to marv. This is a question which actively adds information to the thread. I missed it yesterday but it is a really good one and should have been followed up. It could be scum casting doubt on prpl, but marv never follows it up. He never pushed a prpl case. It is just a good stand alone question. Why would scum do this?
On June 25 2012 21:40 marvellosity wrote:
Indeed. I've replaced in to games a few times, always as town, and never felt the need to justify my predecessor's play or fulfil promises on what they did. I understand you're not me though. Given you're around. What do you make of me? as slOosh died, what do you think of Probulous?
Compare this to his earlier post calling slOosh out on his casting of suspicion. When slOosh was alive he wanted to clear the air, now that slOosh is dead he is following up on slOosh's non-case to see if there was something missing. It could be that he wants to push a miss-lynch on me, but if that is the case, why call out slOosh in the first place? It is contradictory in a town way. Plus he has never pushed me as a possible lynch target.
I am not going to vote for marv today. His day 1 play caused terrible terrible damage but he has been much more forthright and open since then.
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On June 25 2012 19:49 prplhz wrote:
If you guys read the thread then it should be pretty obvious that slOosh jailed me last night.
Nevermind, slOosh was suspicious of the both of us.
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On June 27 2012 09:54 rastaban wrote:Hey guys guess what both marvellosity and VisceraEyes have in common! + Show Spoiler +HINT:On June 27 2012 08:13 marvellosity wrote:
you shouldn't lynch me because i'm town. and fingers crossed my vigi shot should mostly confirm me as town and mafia will have to kill me off at some point. and hopefully if i am alive i'll be able to find scum, because i'm not too bad at that. On June 27 2012 08:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
Meh - you didn't really think that through. You're never ever going to get a vig-shot. Ever. If you're town, scum are going to roleblock you until the cows come home (which is a long ass time, for those not familiar with American colloquialisms.)
You're going to keep on living each night, and each morning you'll be saying "Guys I swear I'm a vig...it's this damned ROLEBLOCKER!"
Town isn't going to have any choice but to lynch you because not only have you had myself and Probulous on your shit since D1, but you're going to look even worse if/when I get nightkilled and flip town. Town is GOING TO HAVE to kill you. It's just a matter of when.
The correct answer was "Tomorrow if I get Roleblocked". On June 27 2012 08:20 marvellosity wrote:
Just because you're on my shit doesn't make me any less town. Town either believes I'm town now and that I got roleblocked or they don't.
You're pushing the idea that I have to be lynched now because it could cause trouble later. No, you only lynch me now if town is convinced I'm scum.
That is the correct answer my friend. + Show Spoiler +Neither has read the Vigilante role textYou are the most conservative member of town, and as such you really enjoy exercising your 2nd Amendment rights to shoot criminals in the face. You have a gun with X bullets and you may shoot if you so wish at night. You are never refunded a bullet under any circumstances. You win when all the mafia have ceased to breathe. If they had they would know the bullet didn't get refunded and so he only needs blocked 1 night.
AMAZING CATCH!
What does it say? Like seriously how is this useful? The whole point of the discussion is that there is no way marv can confirm himself. How does this help us clear that up?
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Wait, wait. How long till deadline?
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Oh, thank god. I thought it was 20 minutes 
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Vote Count - 5 Hours to go
risk.nuke (0): Rastaban
Zephirdd (RIP) (0): Snarfs
rastaban (1): xsksc
VisceraEyes (0): marvellosity
marvellosity (6): VisceraEyes, Shraft, Mattchew, Rastaban, Snarfs, , prplhz, marvellosity
xsksc (1): risk.nuke
Shraft (0): prplhz
Mattchew (1): Snarfs, Rastaban
Not voted (1)robulous[/QUOTE]
Is this correct?
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On June 27 2012 10:40 Probulous wrote:
Vote Count - 5 Hours to go
risk.nuke (0): Rastaban
Zephirdd (RIP) (0): Snarfs
rastaban (1): xsksc
VisceraEyes (0): marvellosity
marvellosity (6): VisceraEyes, Shraft, Mattchew, Rastaban, Snarfs, , prplhz, marvellosity
xsksc (1): risk.nuke
Shraft (0): prplhz
Mattchew (1): Snarfs, Rastaban
Not voted (1): Probulous
Is this correct?[/QUOTE]
Fucked up format.
Thank god, because I am still reading and don't want to be modkilled for missing the deadline.
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Aah shit, there is no-one around now 
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I hate my fucking timezone. If this shit had happened when everyone was online, I could help consolidate but now when I am ready, everyone is gone.
I don't want to vote for you marv. I think you are town who screwed up his first day with a goddawful plan and then got snarky about it. I have to back down on my main everytime I role town. First it was the cat guy (lol forgot his name), then kitaman now you.
If VE jumps we can get four on Mattchew but where are the other two going to come from?
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Well assuming, Snarfs, Probulous, VE, Marvellosity, Shraft, we need one more.
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On June 27 2012 11:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
...like, how AM I supposed to fucking respond?
Realise he is pissed off and that poking him doesn't help. Make your own mind VE. If you think he is scum, then vote for him. It's that simple.
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On June 27 2012 11:04 marvellosity wrote:
i'm sorry.
you were right though. i don't get lynched today and what happens tomorrow? no-one trusts me. my reads are probably completely fritzed because i'm not used to this situation.
We are making a decision today. I trust you as much as I trust anyone in this game
Seriously though, post your cases, post your reads and they will get the same treatment as anyone else. Flip it round, if you weren't lynched today than clearly what you are doing to day it the right thing to do, so keep on doing it. As VE said, find me scum.
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