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@Snarfs
But notice how even after he says to remove both of them he follows up with "marv seems a bit scummy. Partly because how his inabillity to see how Vicera is town." which leaves it open for a future vote and still throws suspicion on marv. As for removing VE from the lynch pool, marvs recent vote on VE was the first this whole game. Despite the back and forth it was only ever 1 way, VE was not in any danger of being lyched at any point so all he really states is: don't vote marv yet, but he is a bit scummy.
Also a lot of people had come out in defense of marv by that point saying we need to hold off on lynching him. If this had been the one to help get the votes off marv I would be more inclined to think it town aligned but as it is, it just seems regurgitated to me.
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why don't you try actually commenting on my case, rastaban?
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On June 26 2012 04:38 marvellosity wrote:
why don't you try actually commenting on my case, rastaban?
I don't see how you go from one moment thinking VE is so town that both a jailer and mafia would try and hit him noght one to then thinking he is the leading scum.
I think it is most likely that you are both town arguing with each other like you and gonzaw in bang bang. I thought maybe VE was scum for a bit as well due to the fact that he didn't get a single vote yesterday despite the back and forth but going through his filter I didn't see it. He also tried to lead yesterday's lynch which scum is often hesitant to do.
marv, what are your thoughts on risk? he hasn't changed a thing since I called him out yesterday, and now says we should ignore him because he is lazy....
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On June 26 2012 04:59 rastaban wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 04:38 marvellosity wrote:
why don't you try actually commenting on my case, rastaban? I don't see how you go from one moment thinking VE is so town that both a jailer and mafia would try and hit him noght one to then thinking he is the leading scum. I think it is most likely that you are both town arguing with each other like you and gonzaw in bang bang. I thought maybe VE was scum for a bit as well due to the fact that he didn't get a single vote yesterday despite the back and forth but going through his filter I didn't see it. He also tried to lead yesterday's lynch which scum is often hesitant to do. marv, what are your thoughts on risk? he hasn't changed a thing since I called him out yesterday, and now says we should ignore him because he is lazy....
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On June 26 2012 04:59 rastaban wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 04:38 marvellosity wrote:
why don't you try actually commenting on my case, rastaban? I don't see how you go from one moment thinking VE is so town that both a jailer and mafia would try and hit him noght one to then thinking he is the leading scum. I think it is most likely that you are both town arguing with each other like you and gonzaw in bang bang. I thought maybe VE was scum for a bit as well due to the fact that he didn't get a single vote yesterday despite the back and forth but going through his filter I didn't see it. He also tried to lead yesterday's lynch which scum is often hesitant to do. marv, what are your thoughts on risk? he hasn't changed a thing since I called him out yesterday, and now says we should ignore him because he is lazy....
You don't see how, or you won't read my case properly?
Tried to lead yesterday's lynch? what are you on? Do you have no comments on how he didn't want to lynch Zentor but completely ignored the case on you despite the fact that you were the next candidate and slOosh was pushing it?
You seem to be playing a different game than I am.
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Your case is invalid by virtue of you waffling on your read of me all fucking game marvel. I don't care what your case says when you're just as likely to flip your view and say I'm town at the slightest provocation. That's why I'm not even bothering to respond, for those of you watching at home. *wavewave*
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No, my case is not invalidated by my previous uncertainty. that's a terrible argument. As you yourself coached me at the start of my time playing mafia, town have less information than scum, and town are more likely to change their minds than scum. Trying to suggest the fact I've flip flopped invalidates my case is a terrible, terrible argument.
So far you've said you're not gonna respond to my case, that I'm scum for making it, then you say you're going to respond to it later, and now you're not bothering to respond to it. Scummy.
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Saying I'm so townie that both the jailer and the scumteam would target me overnight and following it up directly with me being your only/strongest scumread doesn't constitute "changing your mind" in the townie sense. That's a complete fucking 180. Everything you said in your case had happened at the time that you said I was probably who scum tried to kill but was saved by a jailer, and nothing had changed except for the night-kills. And I don't care who was killed, it shouldn't make you change your stance on someone completely marvel, that's just not how shit works.
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And hey - I'm responding to your case here, now, by talking to you. Fuck the points in your case, if you have any reasoning behind them then you should have no problem asking me conversationally about them without having to refer to your bullshit case.
What's the problem you have with my play marvel? Something you can dictate?
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On June 26 2012 05:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
Saying I'm so townie that both the jailer and the scumteam would target me overnight and following it up directly with me being your only/strongest scumread doesn't constitute "changing your mind" in the townie sense. That's a complete fucking 180. Everything you said in your case had happened at the time that you said I was probably who scum tried to kill but was saved by a jailer, and nothing had changed except for the night-kills. And I don't care who was killed, it shouldn't make you change your stance on someone completely marvel, that's just not how shit works.
No, I said you were probably town, and referenced THE THOUGHTS OF OTHERS. I even wrote them elsewhere in my filter (risk/prob). Who was killed at night didn't make me change my stance.
I only settled on you after long deliberations and angst over my choice. I went over Snarfs in Emergency mafia, I went over Probulous in both C9++ and LV, I went over risk in PYP Poison, I went over rastaban in Bang bang and I went over you in WoF and LI, in addition to looking at all the filters in this game.
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My case isn't bullshit, and you should respond to it.
Especially the part regarding rastaban and the lynch.
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Rastaban was townie-looking so I had no reason to talk about him and I responded to the bit about the lynch already. I said I was phoneposting during the lynch and if something had happened I would have been with it. I gave my alternatives, rasta wasn't one of them. Nothing happened, so the lynch proceeded.
Now, if you really MUST know (I don't know why you would though), I was at my daughter's first dance recital. She was dressed like a fairy and she was fucking precious and I don't give a FUCK that someone I didn't want lynched got lynched because I wasn't sitting in front of a computer.
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Except actually you promised to look into the cases against him later and comment on him, and you did not. That was a flat out lie.
You wanted to appear good by saying you didn't want to lynch Zentor, but there was only one creditable alternative to the lynch and you knew it.
I also look lovely when dressed up like a fairy. But that's nothing to do with anything.
More to follow regarding VE's response to my case. Stay tuned folks!
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On June 26 2012 06:02 marvellosity wrote:
Except actually you promised to look into the cases against him later and comment on him, and you did not. That was a flat out lie.
You wanted to appear good by saying you didn't want to lynch Zentor, but there was only one creditable alternative to the lynch and you knew it.
I also look lovely when dressed up like a fairy. But that's nothing to do with anything.
More to follow regarding VE's response to my case. Stay tuned folks!
You don't know what I did. Did I call you a fucking liar when you said "Oh I spent so much time deliberating and looking at previous games and this games filters"? Did I? No, because while I don't believe you for a second there's NO WAY I CAN PROVE YOU DID NOT. I'm town, and I could be wrong, so I didn't call you a fucking liar in front of the whole town when I could have.
You however, you did. You called me a fucking liar TO MY FACE. Why? "Because there's no evidence that I did what you're accusing me of not doing"? Because the same can be said of your bullshit about "agonizing over the choice".
You're accusing me of not being around for the lynch. I explained where I was.
More to follow regarding Marv's response to my response!
see what I did thar? 
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Yes, and it's bullshit. You specifically promised to look into the rastaban cases and comment on them, and you did not. It's extremely simple. I can prove you did not comment on rastaban and the cases on him because, in fact, you did not.
More regarding VE's response to my case:
VE has in fact done everything but respond to my case. He's dismissed it, or attacked me directly, or omgused.
On June 26 2012 01:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
Wow look at that, who saw that one coming?
*raises hand*
First there's the sarcasm.
Having lectured me on omgus earlier in the game when I was in fact not omgusing, he proceeds to do it himself:
On June 26 2012 01:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
*shrug*
Suit yourself.
##Vote: Marvellosity
It didn't have to be this way sir.
On June 26 2012 01:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Since Marvel has claimed scum by thinking I'm scum, everyone should be voting for Marvelosity. He clearly doesn't want to play, so let's oblige the poor chap shall we?
Dismisses the case without actually replying to any of it:
On June 26 2012 01:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
Marvel's case boils down to...what? What is the main point you'd like me to answer for Marvel? Because it looks to me like a huge post just trying to justify voting for me. There's nothing scummy in there, there's nothing alignment indicative, it's all just a bunch of stuff that you're twisting to justify voting for me.
so yeah, if there's a specific problem you'd like me to answer for, feel free to clearly ask me while I'm around - if not, then you're obvious scum trying to appear contributory.
So there's no case to answer, right? Wrong! He will answer my case, but only when he feels like it.
On June 26 2012 02:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
Anyway, I'll respond to marv's case in full when I feel like it. I don't feel like it right now, so you'll excuse my indifference.
Just in case anyone missed it, he will definitely respond to my case, with appropriate swearing:
On June 26 2012 02:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
Xs, I've been suspicious of marv all game, don't even.
....nope, not doing this right now. No one admires my play, my play is a fucking joke. Saying that only makes me suspicious of YOU Xs...but whatever, I'll look into that later.
I said I'll respond to Marv's case. I'll do it. When I fucking feel like it.
But wait for it... wait for it... he won't respond to my case after all!
On June 26 2012 05:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
Your case is invalid by virtue of you waffling on your read of me all fucking game marvel. I don't care what your case says when you're just as likely to flip your view and say I'm town at the slightest provocation. That's why I'm not even bothering to respond, for those of you watching at home. *wavewave*
Cases aren't made invalid by how indecisive ANYONE was previously. Cases are invalid if the points made within the case are logically refuted. But he'll be having none of that.
On June 26 2012 05:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
And hey - I'm responding to your case here, now, by talking to you. Fuck the points in your case, if you have any reasoning behind them then you should have no problem asking me conversationally about them without having to refer to your bullshit case.
What's the problem you have with my play marvel? Something you can dictate?
Oh, he's responding to my case by talking to me. Last time I checked that wasn't responding to a case, that was talking to someone. 'Fuck the points in my case'? My 'bullshit' case? Again dismissing my case without actually refuting anything.
VE is a floundering scum-merchant.
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lol, this is fun. Marv, me going back and forth about whether I'm going to respond to your case isn't alignment indicative at all. LMAO
You're going nuts over it too, it's actually pretty funny. ^^
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"floundering scum-merchant"....LMAO
You're too much my guy. I said I'll respond to your case, you're like freaking out over nothing. I said I would and I will. LOL
OMG I'm dying.
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Nope, I'm not going nuts at all. Since I found you I'm the calmest I've been all game. Keep going though.
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"found me" LOL
Oh god, srs I gotta go. I'll be back in a bit guys.
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I'm going to write something more substantial later but let me just say this real quick:
VisceraEyes
marvellosity
Stop this shit.
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