Movie Star Mini Mafia! - Page 3

On June 27 2012 02:19 marvellosity wrote:
I think risk nuke is town

On June 26 2012 22:44 marvellosity wrote:
I'm fairly sure I know what risk's explanation is, but I want to hear it from him.

xsksc, can you work out what it might be?

On June 27 2012 04:36 marvellosity wrote:
I thought I'd explained this. I had a scumread on you prior to our big argument but took that argument as a town tell. Having had another look at LI I decided it could no longer be a town tell.

Also Radfield and I, at the start of Redux, talked about WoF and his case on you. He told me that it wasn't so much his case that made him truly believe you were scum, but your response to it.

It's funny because in WoF you originally made a joke to Radfield about it (basically your whole case is just a gut read) and then you backed down from it and said (paraphrasing) "lol only joking I'll answer your case properly later". The similarities are striking.

On June 27 2012 07:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Vote Count - 5 Hours to go
risk.nuke (0): Rastaban
Zephirdd (RIP) (0): Snarfs
rastaban (1): xsksc
VisceraEyes (0): marvellosity
marvellosity (4): VisceraEyes, Probulous, Shraft, Mattchew
xsksc (1): risk.nuke
Shraft (1): prplhz
Mattchew (1): Rastaban
Not voted (2): Snarfs, marvellosity

On June 27 2012 08:59 marvellosity wrote:


Snarfs, as town or scum the fact is I got embroiled by my own arrogance/bad play day 1 with not answering the questions. Those are the common things.

Your only other thing you mention there about if I'm town is that I think someone you have a strong town read on is scum. Is that really so hard to believe?

But if I'm scum you have to accept that I went after VE originally, and having dropped it, I then fucking did it again. That is just INSANE. Absolutely insane.

And that's ignoring my meta defence which I won't restate but nonetheless exists.

On June 26 2012 12:05 Mattchew wrote:
[--snip--]

I actually should maybe color Marv black, because I think his play just feels very off. I think I lean him being the SK more than I do him being scum. Either way he eventually needs a noose. His filter is long and fluffy. A ton of arguing with VE but even more deflecting of actual answers... instead he resorts to inane arguments full of WIFOM and fallacys, like in all these filter enhancing posts. Can someone pick me out anything pro-town from these?

[--snip--]

On June 28 2012 08:17 marvellosity wrote:
Snarfs, I trust your judgement.

Make your reads and I will discuss them with you.

But you pretty much need to pin the entire team and then choose the SK between them somehow.

On June 25 2012 10:30 Shraft wrote:
risk.nuke you need to step up your game. Wanting to lynch lurers and then lurking hard yourself makes you look bad. On top of that your only substantial post is the one where you defend yourself (you never followed up on that post either, despite saying that you would). Why would you even bother defending that hard when nobody agreed with his case anyway? You ask for the other lurkers to share their reads and to contribute, but you do nothing of the kind yourself. Aside from lurkers, you're only suspicious of rastaban (but you haven't really shared much thought on him either, it looks more like OMGUS to me).

And what the fuck is this?

He would've tried to dodge the lynch regardless of his alignment, why do you act as if it is a scum tell?

On June 24 2012 09:01 Shraft wrote:

This much I already get. What I am interested in is what made you jump from glaring scum tell to town. If it's a meta argument it must be something very indicative so that you can be sure of his alignment, right? I mean, how can you be so sure of him being town just because of some similarities? I believe that every player acts in a (somewhat) similar way in every game, regardless of alignment. I'd like you to elaborate more on what made you think rastaban is town, if you please. Something more specific than just the general "there are some similarities".

On June 24 2012 05:10 Shraft wrote:
@prplhz
Good post. I am growing suspicious of [zephirdd] as well. That's why I questioned him here. I don't know if we have enough time or enough people to lynch him, but I think I'd rather have him lynched than rastaban or Zentor.

On June 11 2012 22:33 rastaban wrote:
While I agree that Toad's plan was inherently flawed, I think there were some good points..

Millers should claim, and we should force them to shoot. Later we can sort out any false claims etc... but it gets us started in the right direction. I agree there could be more than 1 miller so the self shooting is a bad thing and will have us ending up with 2 wasted lynches.

I am worried that our day 1 shot is going to happen within 5 minutes of daytime as people try to make a point to get themselves remembered for shooting X as soon as the game started for teh LOLz. Lets step away from this, while anyone can kill I think we need to at least start off with in-thread voting before the shot is fired, and if we can have the millers doing it until they have all shot so much the better.

If we can get the miller claims into the open (assuming there are some) and then have them do our designated shooting for us for the first cycle or two we not only gain some information on them, but also on the discussion about who they should be shooting.

On June 22 2012 16:46 rastaban wrote:
Just caught up on what is the "haps", here are my thoughts.

First, I agree with the Millers claim day one, and policy lynching all Millers after today. In a game where they are self aware it is a huge boon for town. The benefits far out way the negative of less people with possible blue roles. First and most importantly it guarantees our checks. Detectives know any red checks from non-mafia get lynched, since sanity isn't an issue in this game. Any Mafia will always claim miller if checked and we don't force a day 1 reveal. It will cause a lot of confusion, it is best to eliminate this by forcing day one claims. It also forces Mafia's hand, if they want to claim they have to do it now before they are in too much water. This is hard for mafia to do, they don't want to be scrutinized and that is why they claim miller as a last resort. While it is argued that Millers make it easier to snipe blues it also makes our blues more effective. Look at Bang Bang where I, as a doctor, pushed strongly for a miller claim night one.

Second, the focus of Marv makes me think of karma after seeing him do it to Gonzaw in our last game together. We need to be careful with tunneling though, when you push someone so hard day1, they will often come across as scum no matter what since the only content you have is them trying to defend themselves against accusations. He could be scum but I just want to say that we need to be cautious, as I feel the case against him is a bit biased. Now his day 1 "meta" is to spam 1 liners so I personally wouldn't mind him getting lynched if there isn't a better candidate but I feel like there is too much discussion on him this early in our day. Remember we have 48 hours, half that time hasn't even passed yet so I don't like the band wagoning on Marv so quickly.

That said I have a hard time getting anything from his filter right now. Some people analyze best when their quarry is under pressure but for me that introduces too many variables so I like to read posts where they aren't defending themselves. So marv would you mind answering the original question ( as leading as it may be) about what you feel are your tells, and second who do you feel is most likely scum?

On June 29 2012 03:32 marvellosity wrote:
rastaban: a tidbit for you to consider. Post your thoughts as you please.

When Snarfs voted for Mattchew yesterday, he was leaving the thread and it seemed like there was zero danger of Mattchew getting lynched.