TL Mafia LVI

On June 19 2012 05:12 wherebugsgo wrote:
I wish this game were smaller

On June 17 2012 18:57 gonzaw wrote:


D1 marv policy lynch.

I'm sure verybody wul woujld follow that

On June 30 2012 06:07 marvellosity wrote:
I personally estimate by the end of day 1 I will have a longer filter than 50% of the game despite not playing

On June 30 2012 10:50 ghost_403 wrote:
People I don't want in LYLO with me:

• Mattchew
  
• Bill Murray
  
• VE
  

I vote we start this game off by lynching one of them, because getting a solid read on any one of them is rather difficult.

This list has been generated based on my experience with them in previous games, which means at worst, we've got a 22% chance of hitting scum. And if not, I don't want them in my town at lylo anyways.

Who's with me?

On June 30 2012 10:03 BroodKingEXE wrote:
I want to start out discussing newbies. How are we as a town going to deal with players that are not as strong (as we do have a couple in the game)? Personally I think that these players need to be examined for the intent of their posts more than the evidence that they provide. Newbies still need to figure out what types of evidence are valid for examining a person, and we need to look at whether they are trying to draw out info from nothing or if there was actually a scummy read behind it. In the last few games I have played newbies have been lynched from poor evidence when they in fact were legitimately trying to help the town. I want everyone to take this in mind as we deal with newbies.

On June 30 2012 10:21 s0Lstice wrote:
Hello folks. I'll be joining the ranks of the scum hunters once again (5th time in a row!). This is my first large game, so it's going to be an adjustment...but one I'm capable of making. Being that it's friday night I will be scarce, but I'll be active on saturday, and I'm sure I'll have plenty of material to analyze. Stay tuned.

On June 30 2012 16:24 BroodKingEXE wrote:

I cant think of a town reason to post this batshit insane. Sarcasm? Until you answer: ##Vote: casualman

On June 30 2012 11:28 NoSmurfHere wrote:
I'm not kidding, my role PM is like "you're a Role Name.".

Let's kill this guy:



##vote mKmKmK

On June 30 2012 17:28 Hyaach wrote:
Quick before ET metas you.

On June 30 2012 10:21 s0Lstice wrote:
Hello folks. I'll be joining the ranks of the scum hunters once again (5th time in a row!). This is my first large game, so it's going to be an adjustment...but one I'm capable of making. Being that it's friday night I will be scarce, but I'll be active on saturday, and I'm sure I'll have plenty of material to analyze. Stay tuned.

On June 30 2012 23:30 Vivax wrote:
That self-vote stunt wasn't shitty evidence. It was probably planned in egocentrical way by a scum player. I can understand if someone placed his vote on somebody else for no apparent reason, since that will immediately force someone to defend himself (or he can try and make it look like he's lurking).

I don't see how a self-vote would create a good atmoshpere for town. It might all be for shits and giggles pre-game, but ingame it just might be an exaggerated attempt to act like an overconfident townie and just causes confusion.

If you asked me who I would vote for right now, then it would be either VE or acrofales.

On June 30 2012 19:32 Bill Murray wrote:
Acrofales, it's not OMGUS when I have reasoning
You have chainsawed
You have also set up a chance for a weak ass switch to the BW on BKExe
scummy as fuck
##unvote
##vote acro

On June 30 2012 22:33 Hyaach wrote:
its not lurk ville 300. i just have no idea how to play day 1s.

On June 30 2012 10:12 mKmKmK wrote:

vague post is vague...

On June 30 2012 22:21 mKmKmK wrote:
VE, the way you sad that BM may be the first lynch, but then went ahead and voted for BKE seems pretty much like your trying to start a bandwagon on BKE. I know that there are valid arguments saying that he is scum, but the way you said



is giving me a really scummy impression from you.


Also, I have a feeling that Kurumi is scum. I'm not sure why, he's just giving me bad vibes.

On July 01 2012 00:37 Vivax wrote:


I don't know about this game, but in one of the games I played as scum, mafia got a mail with the VT role pm they could use to fake claim VT. That might have been NoSmurfHere actually using that information in his favor immediately.

Can we know if mafia got a VT role pm?

On June 30 2012 14:16 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Also, please stop discussing role PMs. The OP clearly states:
This is true for all roles.

On July 01 2012 00:48 Vivax wrote:
I would also advise town to wonder why acrofales made his first case against the guy suspecting the person he defended just before.

On July 01 2012 04:24 s0Lstice wrote:
ET what do you think of Katina?

On July 01 2012 04:47 Acrofales wrote:
@ET: s0lstice's post satisfies me with regards to his earlier promise to give his reads during the day. You agree?

On July 01 2012 05:57 casualman wrote:
phase 2

On July 01 2012 04:47 Acrofales wrote:

Hi! Who do you want to lynch today?

On June 30 2012 22:21 mKmKmK wrote:
VE, the way you sad that BM may be the first lynch, but then went ahead and voted for BKE seems pretty much like your trying to start a bandwagon on BKE. I know that there are valid arguments saying that he is scum, but the way you said



is giving me a really scummy impression from you.


Also, I have a feeling that Kurumi is scum. I'm not sure why, he's just giving me bad vibes.

On June 30 2012 10:11 mKmKmK wrote:

Your enthusiasm is inspiring.
This is actually my first game of TL Mafia, so im pretty psyched, and will most likely make really make arguments, so please bear with me!
As a fellow townie I hope that we can all work as a team to find the scum, and lynch them!
Until they all die!

YEAH!

On July 01 2012 06:50 Vivax wrote:


You speak in riddles for me, who is Adam?And how is that event similar to this one?

Also, could you explain me fully what the kenpachi rule is?

I didn't play these games where you learned what you learned.

On July 01 2012 20:19 Vivax wrote:
I fear lynching him for the possibility that he's just a blue role trying to keep his head low.
That said, I think ET should not jump on him so easily based on a policy formed through previous games.

On July 02 2012 06:44 marvellosity wrote:
Not scum, I promise <3

On July 02 2012 06:46 marvellosity wrote:
I'm not voting BKexe today.

ET seemed to have a read on mkmkmk which seemed ok.

Are there any other options?

On July 02 2012 08:34 s0Lstice wrote:
I was feeling pretty good about mKmKmK until I saw how the votes fell on him. Maybe it's paranoia, but like Katina said, it felt pretty easy to get him a majority.

On July 02 2012 08:59 NoSmurfHere wrote:
90% sure VE is scum since most of his vote posts contain almost no reasoning at all. Also, he's not pushing any of the lynches he's on, he's just hopping on already-moving bandwagons (or increasing town sentiment basically)

His votes have gone BKE-BM-Fox and there's minimal reasoning for all of those votes. In addition at each point he's ignored most of the other cases and he's influenced the flow of votes without pushing the lynches himself.

He also misconstrues the case on mK. It's not entirely the Kenpachi rule, though that's pretty good in itself. The scummiest thing about mK is that he said he was excited to play and then upon the game starting he disappeared. No excitement or enthusiasm at all.

On July 02 2012 15:17 drwiggl3s wrote:
So here's what should be learned from day 1.

BKExe gained first suspicions. Votes were put on him. His posting increased at a rapid rate where he wasn't so much as defending himself as he was putting suspicion on others. There was also a increase of posting by a few others who were soft defending him while pointing fingers at others.

mkmkmk get read as scum by numerous people. All while being pretty much just missing in action. Votes are pushed to him as an easy D1 lynch.

Somehow (I have no clue how his posts were read as scum), people hint and drop Fox's name as a possible scum candidate. After testing the waters, a bandwagon is launched on him and it get's the votes. This lynch not only killed a fellow town, but it also netted 0 information on who else could be scum.

I'd like to throw suspicion on those who are actively throwing suspicion onto others. As the people they are reading as scum are giving me no sense of scumminess at all. While the people who do appear scummy seem to have a team of like minded individuals backing up their claims and dismissing others.

For the love of town, if you're town, don't settle for these mislynches. If we were going to lynch someone, it should have been someone that actually had people defending them. At least this way their death (in vain or not) would give us some valuable information on the people posting in this thread. Any lynch that doesn't support this idea, is a lynch that is proposed by the mafia, and we should look to those who propose it as our next targets.

On July 02 2012 17:36 drwiggl3s wrote:
mkmkmk lynch never made sense to me, and unless you give me some justification for it, anyone pushing for this is giving me a scum read.

The only justification I can think of for the Foxtrotter wagon, was that there was a tie between BroodKingExe, Foxtrotter, and mkmkmk. Since they couldn't push enough votes onto mkmkmk to ensure BroodKingexe wouldn't get ninja lynched by some last minute votes, they sprung a new bandwagon on Foxtrotter.

I do agree with Bill Murray in that some people who pushed for the Foxtrotter wagon need to be lynched. Although I'm curious as to who he thinks would be a good target. To me, the best target is already apparent. But since I have no good town read or scum read on Bill, I'd like to hear what he thinks.

On July 02 2012 17:41 drwiggl3s wrote:
Also (sorry for some spam here) @ Mandalor. You say we should lynch someone listed in Mattchew's analysis. Yet in the same post you say his analysis is "hilariously bad". I propose that his list is all town.

See how it excludes BKexe for example?

On July 02 2012 17:53 Mandalor wrote:


I agree. However, he's orchestrating town's play right now. He gave literally no reason for the Foxtrotter lynch, yet 9 people jump on the boat and the guy is lynched. I don't think the voters are all mafia. I'd be surprised if there's more than two mafia voting for foxtrotter.
Sooo, obviously he holds a lot of weight. I guess he played well in the last mafia games.

Best possible scenario is town ignores what he says and we actually kill a red. But I don't think that's going to happen. Both of us just don't hold a lot of weight. You're either a smurf or this really is your first game. And the last mafia game I played is so long ago, I don't think I've played with anyone in this before.

He gave literally no reason for the Foxtrotter lynch;

On July 02 2012 17:47 drwiggl3s wrote:
If you want the most information out of a lynch. Then when the sun rises tomorrow - we kill Mattchew.

If he's scum, everyone on that list is town. And we have 5 (6th person would have been foxtrott) people who can be labelled confirm town for the rest of the game.

On July 02 2012 17:59 Mandalor wrote:


Please point me to that post, must've missed it.

On February 19 2012 05:50 TKHawkins wrote:
##Vote: EchelonTee

He rides the coat tails of other people's thoughts
+ Show Spoiler +

He then jumps along with jaj22's post and votes for Midnight. He would not be on my radar if it wasn't for that. I can't see a strong reason for the MidnightGladius vote especially with both the people voting for him not backing up their vote once it's questioned.

On July 02 2012 18:11 drwiggl3s wrote:
If your town, please post and discuss this with us. Else this is just going to be washed out by all the Mafia's random finger pointing / speculating / useless crap posts.

On July 02 2012 18:15 drwiggl3s wrote:
Whether or not Mattchew is scum is up for interpretation. But one thing that isn't, is that if we lynch him, and he turns as scum, then that will net us the most information. More then any other lynch that could be made right now.

On July 02 2012 18:15 Acrofales wrote:
Just saw I posted as kingdedede. Kingdedede is me (SSB game).

Also, ET is making sense and people should listen to him. ET, what do you think of Vivax and layabout?

On July 03 2012 09:59 ghost_403 wrote:
EchelonTee

On July 03 2012 23:10 ghost_403 wrote:
@ET: Yeah, pointing out that I'm gone for an entire cycle is my only criteria for finding scum. I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts.