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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 03 2012 15:43 GMT
#1041
Yeah Vivax looks to be trying to push the big names who he knows wont get lynched (VE, Acro, Marv) all during day 1. His first post also agrees with BM completely when no one else was looking at him.

I am completely behind a Vivax lynch.


VE and Acro what are your thoughts on Twelve
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 03 2012 22:31 GMT
#1108
On July 04 2012 07:30 NoSmurfHere wrote:
Given that Shiaopi gave two unsure verdicts on Katina and Twelve and then a scum verdict on a third player who looks the same as the first two, I'd say Hyaach is a bad lynch.

Literally Shiaopi says he doesn't know what to make of Twelve's disappearance but Hyaach's disappearance makes him scum. Dafak?

Let's kill katina or Shiaopi today. Acro what do you think?

doth not care for my opinion?
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 03 2012 23:28 GMT
#1125
i just read shiaopi's filter and I am not comfortable in lynching him.
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 04 2012 00:20 GMT
#1143
On July 04 2012 08:43 NoSmurfHere wrote:
Mattchew, what is it about Shiaopi you find townie?



okk fine.
On June 30 2012 22:56 ShiaoPi wrote:
EBWOP:

Forgot Bill Muray,

he looks like aggressive playing townie to me, at least for now.

He has played in 4 newbie games, of which I am sure an aggressive newb got mislynched cause he came across as mean or scummy. The way BM played the start and not knowing his meta, I could see how he would come to this conclusion


On July 01 2012 00:51 ShiaoPi wrote:
@Vivax

I do not want to argue about semantics with you but take it in general terms:

BKE states that he believes it beneficial to be forgiving towards newbies, he then proceeds to attack 2 people's opening posts in which they clearly state that it is a "first time" for them.

It is much more the general idea behind his posts, he tries to encourage newbies first and then attacks the first two who are "newbies" in kinds of definition.

If you cannot see the contradiction here, than there is indeed no point in further arguing with you about the case on BKE


I think this is a good point that he explained his full thought process behind


On July 01 2012 02:09 ShiaoPi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2012 01:25 BroodKingEXE wrote:
Hold Up Hold Up! I clearly said that I think solstice is not a newb. He has been playing the same amount of games as me, and at my experience level that would be a scumass post to make. He dodges responsibility and subtley confirms his towniness. Why'd he do it like that? Scum thrive off subtley in their posts making us subconsiciously move them off their radar. Hell have I been subtle? A policy and two accusations making up the just of my posting. Casual's post makes no sense from a town intent, he declares he is a dumb newb and then procedes to bandwagon me on no evidence (by him). I cant give any leway on logic if their is none. I think he is a newb scum that is trying to distance himself from the guy that said" look at newbs through this lense". And let me say again I am Not A newb

At least in my perspective so if I try to hide behind that I should be lynched.


Excuse me but whre did you say that solstice is not a newb? Looked through your filter, found nothing.
Have you actually considered the possibility that he is in fact busy and so he dropped by with that post to say he is sorry in advance? Might be motivation to do just that, also check his other games, his opening is pretty similar to the games he has played and judging from that single post that he could be scum does not convince me.

I agree on your reasoning on Casual, he is on my radar as well.

I do not understand though what your "noobishness" has anything to do with the issue at hand. Nobody accused you of hiding behind noobishness so why bring it up? Until now your defense has been:
-I said solstice is not newb (no idea where that comes from...)
-I am not scum, since I made policy talk and two accusations.

Not strong to be honest. Everyone can make policytalk and the two accusation are kind of easy, solstice is gone for a while and casualman went retard/wtf-mode.

Right now I am tending on scum on you, so that will make my FoS into a vote: BroodkingEXE

Once again, I think he explained his thought process, and this vote doesn't seem nervous or forced in anyway. I don't think he's jumping a bandwagon because he brought original points to the argument.


On July 01 2012 05:57 ShiaoPi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2012 05:57 casualman wrote:
phase 2


of your secret plan to world domination, which involves random vote-dropping?

Doesn't feel nervous, not anything especially strong, but I thought worth mentioning


On July 01 2012 06:54 ShiaoPi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2012 06:27 Vivax wrote:
Guys, look at the voting thread. Casualman just voted for himself. That's his phase 2.


I know, I quoted that already and asked him, but he just does not answer...
For now I will just probably ignore him

He could have easily stuck to this point, and pressed this as his issue without question (its not like casualman has provided anything to fight this) but instead he does the townie thing of ignoring the troll

TLDR: I think he had a very townie day 1. Remember to read him as someone who's only experiences are in newbie games. His night 1+ has been a mixed bag of weird posts and normal posts.
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 04 2012 02:19 GMT
#1153
WBG I think that Shiao's initial reasoning for voting for voting hyaach had nothing to do with his in thread aggression it was other reasons. Then later he cited that Hyaach reacted aggressively, meaning the aggressiveness was forced out of him, not like BM who was outwardly aggressive without any pressure. So I don't think his reasons for hyaach are contradicting his reasons for BM.

But I am doing way too much talking on his behalf lol




I am suspicious of ET, his contributions seem to be very few and far between. VE and WBG what do you guys think
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 04 2012 03:09 GMT
#1158
I completely forgot adam was in this game, I have NEVER seen him play like this before. He is ALWAYS helpful, active and extremely townie as town
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 04 2012 03:45 GMT
#1160
Yeah ET is acting really weird, similarly blending in to his play in JubJub. I expect so much more from him and Adam.

##vote EchelonTee
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 04 2012 15:06 GMT
#1196
I am uncomfortable with twelves defense being so passive. He seems to not want to piss anyone off even when they call him scum and vote for him. This is continuing his play before he was a suspect, which means he is either actually in over his head newbie townie that just wants to help but doesnt know help, or scum who is afraid to vote and accuse townies.

I think we should be voting ET or Adam, because BOTH of them have been useless this game and this is EXTREMELY out of character for them.
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 04 2012 15:10 GMT
#1200
Happy 4th of july I wont be posting again for like >24 hours
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 05 2012 15:37 GMT
#1357
Somebody please explain to me the reason for ET's lynch (and the final votes coming) after Mr Wiggles announced he was asking for replacement? The whole reason in my mind for the ET lynch was because he was inactive and out of character... VE were you around for all this? How about you WBG? Acro? Thoughts? Other than me using hindsight to yell at pretty much everyone, I am struggling to find a lot of people's reasons for voting ET which is strange. This all leads me to

WHY WASN'T TWELVE LYNCHED. ET WAS ABOUT TO BE REPLACED AND/OR MODKILLED. i hope we have to vig to blow his head off.

Ghost, I know your all like confirmed town and all, but can you please participate a little more

There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 05 2012 17:08 GMT
#1368
On July 06 2012 01:51 Vivax wrote:
I'm still not sure if twelve is scum, but he is most likely of opposite alignment to BKE for keeping his focus on him the entire time.

And BKE is for sure of opposite alignment to katina, cause of this post:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=344514&currentpage=22#429

And maybe of opposite alignment to grush, who called BKE out once:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=344514&currentpage=26#515

NSH already suggested the version where twelve AND ET are townies, so we just have to detect scum skating by.

I suggest we start by lynching BKE, the other scum players are:

Mattchew, ShiaoPi, Maju/casualman/grush.

If you wonder about Mattchew: He just complained about the ET lynch when he had his vote ticked on him. Looks like he doesn't care much about the town agenda he tries to fake.

lol i voted him based 24 hours before the lynch occured and said I was away all of 4th of july... at that time it wasn't known that he would be modkilled or replaced
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 06 2012 14:43 GMT
#1450
On July 06 2012 23:36 Mandalor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 22:50 ghost_403 wrote:
Another fun fact: Mandalor's filter is composed almost entirely of town reads, with the notable exception of BKE.


huh? what do you mean by town reads? People I view as town, people that turned out as town or people you think are town?
I suspected BKE, Katina, MattChew and Twelve to be scum. Might be missing someone.

Nothing has changed for Twelve in my eyes and I'll probably vote for him again.

Please please explain how I'm scum
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 06 2012 17:29 GMT
#1463
I am going to read broods filter tonight when I get home but from what I remember I have a town read and would rather lynch twelve
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 06 2012 22:20 GMT
#1481
Cause he plays like this as town
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 07 2012 01:10 GMT
#1513
On July 07 2012 10:06 Kurumi wrote:
Maybe I am just overreacting, but why he did not say that faster?

Cause he wants to check more people is always a good answer

##vote katina
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 07 2012 12:40 GMT
#1599
2 vigs a vet (laya bout) maybe a doc and 2 dts?
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 07 2012 12:43 GMT
#1601
Also in my mind if hyaach is actually dt VE is pretty townie cause I would expect him to be a lot firmer in his opinions and course of action as scum vs a dt claim ... Thoughts
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 07 2012 18:49 GMT
#1607
On July 08 2012 02:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
I can lynch casual instead of Katina. Just sayin. I'd also be down with lynching grush.

No katina needs to die and you should know this
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 07 2012 23:02 GMT
#1627
Just got home, glad to see katina lynched and I think BKE mod-killed.
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 07 2012 23:11 GMT
#1631
SHOCKING
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