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On June 11 2012 20:21 FourFace wrote:Let me try: A super-hot young girl who goes by the TL username of Smurfette in's into Bastard Mafia 2. A rich, lively, gorgeous, angel-faced, perfect assed + Show Spoiler + and spontaneous chick who is so unsettled by the idea of getting lynched or shot that she will seek out every player personally, fly to him in her supersonic jet and give him a blow job with optional prostate massage if he promises not to vote her - every day cycle, and fuck every mafia every night - if she is town just so she can ensure the survival of her virtual avatar, but the host won't let her play because no smurfs allowed. that was.... inventive..... i guess....
/in
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On June 11 2012 12:58 gonzaw wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2012 12:36 strongandbig wrote:On June 11 2012 04:47 FourFace wrote: /in be afraid, be very afraid Lie Bot, what is the saddest thing? A town circle where only 1 out of 3 members is town dominates a game
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Hey guys.
Vanilla Townie here.
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Isn't House Chezinu that 5th party mason circle from Aperture Mafia? Which means they are the good guys?
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Well I am leaning they are not Anti-Town. Which means Town people need not be concerned with them. People discrediting them look bad to me atm.
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On June 17 2012 14:37 MajuGarzett wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 14:13 EchelonTee wrote: Well I am leaning they are not Anti-Town. Which means Town people need not be concerned with them. People discrediting them look bad to me atm. It's bad to doubt a group that's withholding information about its purpose, members, and capabilities? Yeah. Remember in TL LV when people wanted to discredit Toad?
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Conclusion: talking about is currently not a good use of town's time, am I right?
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Oh btw, recruit me to your House, Hiro Pro. I doubt it's a cult; it's probably a mason circle that can invite anyone, scum neutral or town. I want in.
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On June 17 2012 03:08 KharadBanar wrote: This whole House Chezinu thing sounds really fishy to me. It's advertised as "all upside, no downside" but we have to claim our role and abilities to get in there, and pledge loyalty to players we don't know the alignment of.
In addition, Hiro says nothing about the organisational structure of the House, or if we get any rights/influence if we join, which normally means we don't get jack.
I am not at all convinced. On June 17 2012 03:34 KharadBanar wrote: I don't fully trust House Chezinu's intentions yet, but I would like to claim that I am not one of its enemies, and would be interested in an alliance, similar to Nisani201.
If this arrangement can be made, maybe we can talk about further deals in the future. wat
I got to admit, reading through this game is hard because it's making me LoL a lot.
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On June 17 2012 22:31 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 22:27 EchelonTee wrote: Oh btw, recruit me to your House, Hiro Pro. I doubt it's a cult; it's probably a mason circle that can invite anyone, scum neutral or town. I want in. SCUM seriously its a cult and its a really obvious one at that like how do you not see this? Read the last bastard game! wait wtf there were cults in the last game???? ok don't recruit me
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It's a mason circle. Mason circles aren't useless lol
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no cults in the last game you liar. looks like Drazerk into the scummy list
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maybe in a bastard game they are useless just depends on how serious people play.
citations: TL L, TL LV, any PM game ever
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Ok, not a traditional PM game.
still - citations: TL L, TL LV, Aperture
None of those were PM games and the "Mason someone you don't know alignment of" was useful to town. Because more communication is a good thing as long as you are not a scrub. I'm not a scrub. Yay.
If it's a cult and I turn into a cultist, then GG lol. But cults are pretty out there, and I don't think this game would delve into that. That's more of a Caller esque thing to do.
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Cult = you recruit people and change their alignments
The one in aperture didn't do that afaik? It was 3 doods in a mason circle who weren't modconfirmed as all townie, but they ended up being so.
Whatever, I don't care that much about it. I think you're just getting your panties in a bunch for no reason.
On June 17 2012 03:52 MajuGarzett wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 03:29 HiroPro wrote:On June 17 2012 03:18 MajuGarzett wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 17 2012 02:41 HiroPro wrote:House Chezinu, 5th Party Recruitment Welcome everyone. This is the Director of Recruitment at House Chezinu speaking. Due to recent personnel shortages, we are now conducting a recruitment drive. Anyone who is a player in this game may join (excepting any and all self-identified House Chezinu enemies). To complete your application, you must go through three simple steps. 1. Claim your role name 2. Claim any and all powers, abilities, restrictions, or requirements that you possess 3. Claim your win condition
All members of House Chezinu must also swear loyalty to all board members, whose names (excepting for mine) will be revealed at a later time. Remember, the benefits are numerous, the downsides non-existent. Join House Chezinu, 5th Party and reap the rewards immediately. All applications must be submitted by Sunday, Jun 17 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00). What exactly are the benefits of House Chezinu? House Chezinu supports its own at all times, especially at times of lynching. In times of plenty, members of House Chezinu, 5th Party will receive monetary compensation. Access to the Knowledge Archives is also permitted (with certain information restricted to board members). If all it does is support members in lynches is there really any difference between joining House Chezinu and forming an alliance? Maju, ur doing that thing where u just ask questions and don't make any definitive stances or statements yourself. This is what made you look scummy in LV. If you're Town, you best start being more decisive yo.
Dropbear is weird. FourFace (FF) is sorta weird, need to see him post more. Hyaach a little bad but I just mislynched him so I should just completely ignore him. Nisani weird, always looks like that, but still. Esp. since he's not trolling as much as I'd expect.
Question about Drazerk's feared troll play. Does he usually play this serious or does he usually act more trolly?
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I'm not feeling KB quite yet, I'd say 201 is a better lynch. Thoughts?
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well, I'm not sending my alignment to anyone as an application or whatever the hell, so if that's the actual way to join, then I'm not joining. If it's a mason circle, I want to be part of it. Simple as that. Call me scum for that if you want, I want more info on this whole she-bang.
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On June 17 2012 23:47 strongandbig wrote:ET, you said you're not sending your alignment anywhere - is this claim a lie then? On June 17 2012 22:58 EchelonTee wrote: well, I'm not sending my alignment to anyone as an application or whatever the hell . I am not sending my alignment anywhere as an application. That is not mutually exclusive with my claim.
On June 18 2012 00:00 Acrofales wrote: I also want more info. Hiro has promised to post more info at the day post. Why would you join before then? On June 17 2012 22:58 EchelonTee wrote: well, I'm not sending my alignment to anyone as an application or whatever the hell, so if that's the actual way to join, then I'm not joining. If it's a mason circle, I want to be part of it. Simple as that. I want to join if it's a mason circle because of my aforementioned stated reasons. I have not yet joined as I haven't PM'd anyone. To be completely precise, a mason circle is good because speedier conversation can help in determining alignment. If I'm unsure or leaning scum, I post any useful info from the circle and don't reveal any of my own reads/sensitive info to the Mason QT.
-____________________- capiche?
Honestly, this is most likely a fake lol.
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this game was a lot more fun about 8 pages ago, sad I missed out
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Probably, HiroPro is going to continue trolling and not give useful info, or come out and say "oh that was all a fake just to see how people would react". Really though, if there ends up being a super elaborate House Chezinu thing, then unless it literally changes my alignment, I can't think of that many possibilities where it's bad if I "join". Only things that come to mind are maybe somehow control my vote, Drazerk suggested something about "they recruit you to cult but don't change alignment", which I don't get, stuff like that, but this is all just idle speculation lol.
Talismania, where are you? I need more sanity plox
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On June 18 2012 00:21 Hyaach wrote: EBWOP You WILL GET influenced by people inside the QT when things starts to gel with your view. don't even know if it's mason lol
see you guys in 3 hours. father's day breakfast yo
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On June 18 2012 00:19 Hyaach wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 00:17 EchelonTee wrote: this game was a lot more fun about 8 pages ago, sad I missed out Or you could get another marvellosity. you say "don't remind me" about the toad thing but you bring up marv ;_;
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On June 17 2012 22:53 EchelonTee wrote: Question about Drazerk's feared troll play. Does he usually play this serious or does he usually act more trolly? I don't have that much experience with Drazerk.
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On June 18 2012 02:09 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 02:07 EchelonTee wrote:On June 17 2012 22:53 EchelonTee wrote: Question about Drazerk's feared troll play. Does he usually play this serious or does he usually act more trolly? I don't have that much experience with Drazerk. Read WaW2 or Holy roman mafia 2 it shows just how much I can brake a game if given the correct tools So basically we should kill you.
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if no one claims save, then I guess no mafia faction lolololol
totally called it that Chezinu was fake :p
Maju looks scummy, yah; he looked a lot like that in TL LV. I needa see if he has any older games where he's town. -His first newbie scum game when he was town, he was more forthright and called people scum and stuff, unlike this game. Not a bad lynch, looks scummy.
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On June 18 2012 02:23 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 00:21 EchelonTee wrote: Probably, HiroPro is going to continue trolling and not give useful info, or come out and say "oh that was all a fake just to see how people would react". Really though, if there ends up being a super elaborate House Chezinu thing, then unless it literally changes my alignment, I can't think of that many possibilities where it's bad if I "join". Only things that come to mind are maybe somehow control my vote, Drazerk suggested something about "they recruit you to cult but don't change alignment", which I don't get, stuff like that, but this is all just idle speculation lol.
Talismania, where are you? I need more sanity plox You think Hiro's been playing games with us? That would be pretty unfortunate. unfortunate? ... or GENIUS?
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EBWOP: should say "His first newbie Mafia game when he was town".
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On June 18 2012 03:14 FourFace wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 03:10 EchelonTee wrote:
totally called it that Chezinu was fake :p
I bet you signed up lol shhhh
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no really, I didn't.
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On June 18 2012 06:16 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 06:12 FourFace wrote:On June 18 2012 06:11 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2012 06:10 FourFace wrote:On June 18 2012 06:06 Drazerk wrote: In fact I don't believe you Now why would you say that you Village Idiot?? Well it would prove if he is a day vigi or not We'll find that out soon enough .. at least pretend to be scared so we can roll out some cases Well I want to kill KB at the moment his filter will be my evidence / case. Also ET but its more of a "I dislike you" type of thing wat
I like you ;_;
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I support either a KB lynch or a Maju lynch. I read one of KB's newbie town game and he actually sounded townie and stuff.
Do people not think Maju is scummy?
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On June 18 2012 20:59 FourFace wrote:Reflections regarding EchelonTee; 1) ETs first 11 posts are all about House Chezinu cheers, more specifically on and off about it being a cult or not.. like playing ping pong with my patience = the ball, and him and Drazerk the players. I call it scum pong that can, at it's finest, make you want to slit your wrist while trying to read the thread like in LVI Toad vs VE. He says he called it as trolling but he simply enumerated all the possibilities not definitely opting for either. He also states the intention of being part of a mason circle that anyone can join and is being established on n0 - which means you have no clue about the alignment of the players yet and thus it's very likely that scum join the circle. Technically it's not a mason circle and one is supposed to be weary and cautious upon joining under these particular circumstances but the fact that he takes the words mason circle in his mouth and repeatedly chews it over is scummy imo A town player would see the lack of benefit in this whole endeavor and stfu about it. 2) Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 22:55 EchelonTee wrote: I'm not feeling KB quite yet, I'd say 201 is a better lynch. Thoughts? That's pathetic 3) 13th post About House Chezinu (hiccup+burp, excuse me) again but this time pay attention and think for a minute Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 22:58 EchelonTee wrote: well, I'm not sending my alignment to anyone as an application or whatever the hell, so if that's the actual way to join, then I'm not joining. If it's a mason circle, I want to be part of it. Simple as that. Call me scum for that if you want, I want more info on this whole she-bang. ET is so into mason circles, right? But here is the perfect opportunity to have a clean mason circle with no scum in it unless they claim scum via the application. I mean you send your application to the mods.. they announce your role and wincon in the circle and then you're good to chat among fellow confirmed townies but instead this is exactly what he doesn't want because as scum he would drop his disguise for what? A couple of third parties and townies because the MA wouldn't be so stupid to join and reveal himself like that and at this point ET must've also come to this conclusion. TL;DR: ET says he wants in on a potentially corrupted to hell mason circle but when the perspective arises to be in a perfectly sanitized pro-town mason circle he changes his mind. 4) projected moraleShow nested quote +On June 18 2012 00:17 EchelonTee wrote: this game was a lot more fun about 8 pages ago, sad I missed out I've read somewhere that scum always points out the negative aspects is one of those times. He's saying this game sux, you all suck you are boring for fucks sake entertain me. This + the scum pong with Drazerk is reason enough for me to vote for you, because these passive and subtle blows to morale outweigh any active trolling attempts in harmfulness. 5) - which someone said scum would want town to believe and I agree. Also in the same post a half-ass accusation of Maju because he is trending. Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 03:10 EchelonTee wrote: if no one claims save, then I guess no mafia faction lolololol
totally called it that Chezinu was fake :p
Maju looks scummy, yah; he looked a lot like that in TL LV. I needa see if he has any older games where he's town. -His first newbie scum game when he was town, he was more forthright and called people scum and stuff, unlike this game. Not a bad lynch, looks scummy. 6) So basically he thinks he can get away with voting for those who other made cases against and are the most talked about suspicion-wise. Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 11:29 EchelonTee wrote: I support either a KB lynch or a Maju lynch. I read one of KB's newbie town game and he actually sounded townie and stuff.
Do people not think Maju is scummy?
Gay, and lazy and careless imo. ##Vote: EchelonTee You don't even say how any of what I've said is scummy lol
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I'm not doing a pbpa: maju looks as hilariously scummy as he did in tl lv. All the reason I need to.vote him.
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Just fulfilled my town meta lol; got accused d1
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On June 18 2012 22:19 FourFace wrote: Is marvellosity ETs smurf btw? marvellous ET? lol
ur like BH lite - 1% the laughs, 1% the skill
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On June 19 2012 01:52 HiroPro wrote: This is a good case against ET. ET obviously cares about the lynch as he is comfortable throwing out a list of people he finds weird. But he doesn't pressure these people, he doesn't make any substantiated reads on any of them, he doesn't make cases.
In the beginning of the game he tried to lead the discussion into useless stuff about the way Toad played in LV. He says that he wants to join a mason circle without revealing his alignment. This is scummy; all he wants is to influence others. He speculates that there may not even be mafia in this game: S&B and FourFace are right: this is what mafia want us to think.
He talks about fulfilling his town meta by being accused. He's trying to defend himself without actually saying anything or without going after FourFace.
This is not town play at all, especially for ET. Look at his filter in Magic:The Gathering Mini Mafia. ET is very aggressive early on, extremely keen on pressuring people, and actually provides reasoning when he calls people suspicious. That is not how he has played this game.
##Vote: EchelonTee Read my Liar Game filter. Do you think this is my scum meta? LMAO
I don't think we've played together HiroPro, but pretty much I would never put myself in this situation if I didn't think it would benefit my team. Which happens to be town this game. If I was scum, I would not be in this position, which is why I stated "town meta by being accused".
KB looks a lot like a mislynch. I'm a mislynch. Town direction is this way that way; who do you think will actulaly get lynched? DO you think you will get me lynched? it's 24 hours in; do you really think this game is going naturally at this point?
No one has given much defense on Maju. I'm not going to do your work for you; look at his filter; scummy as fuck.
Evidence?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=343892&user=187599
what's his filter look like? a bunch of questions to random people, no direction AT ALL how many people has he called scum ? 0 <<<
I point you to my TL LV case: Look at Maju's posts: who has he called out as suspicious? [redacted, it's 0 in this game]
Who does he make a case on? ....No one.
How many posts does he have? A decent amount. That's what I mean by "extremely low content to post ratio". He has almost no interest in scumhunting based on the amount of posts he has that aren't scumhunting.
lynch this scum Maju, it's so obvious that it baffles me
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In the beginning of the game he tried to lead the discussion into useless stuff about the way Toad played in LV. He says that he wants to join a mason circle without revealing his alignment. This is scummy; all he wants is to influence others. He speculates that there may not even be mafia in this game: S&B and FourFace are right: this is what mafia want us to think. I stated the same thing in Kaller game; I speculated that there was no scum faction, as I saw a million blues and no red deaths for like 4 days. I was day vig.
I did a similar thing in TL LV. I setup speculationed a lot while running for mayor. I was townie.
I setup speculation a lot more as town because it benefits town discussion; you can call it fluffy or useless or w.e the fck; I never expose my hide unnecessarily as scum. TL LII jubjub is another good example of my scum play.
If you still lynch me after I reveal all of my meta tips, I'm going to be pissed off as fuck.
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His case shows that he doesn't know my playstyle. I still haven't lost a game as scum despite having an obvious as fuck playstyle, and that's becaue I play it right.
Drazerk, I don't really have any reason to regard anything you say as valid, lol.
THe most weird thing about hiropro is that he says FF's case is good. FF's case is god awful terrible. HiroPro's case is OK if you don't use context.... seriously FF's case is extremely bad. You really want me to break it down logically? You can't see the faults in it?
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LOLLLLLLLLLLLLL man drazerk you are terrible
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there's a reason why scum sandroba always gets his ass lynched down. palmar too
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On June 18 2012 20:59 FourFace wrote: Reflections regarding EchelonTee;
1) ETs first 11 posts are all about House Chezinu cheers, more specifically on and off about it being a cult or not.. like playing ping pong with my patience = the ball, and him and Drazerk the players. I call it scum pong that can, at it's finest, make you want to slit your wrist while trying to read the thread like in LVI Toad vs VE.
He says he called it as trolling but he simply enumerated all the possibilities not definitely opting for either. He also states the intention of being part of a mason circle that anyone can join and is being established on n0 - which means you have no clue about the alignment of the players yet and thus it's very likely that scum join the circle. Technically it's not a mason circle and one is supposed to be weary and cautious upon joining under these particular circumstances but the fact that he takes the words mason circle in his mouth and repeatedly chews it over is scummy imo A town player would see the lack of benefit in this whole endeavor and stfu about it.
First point; says I'm scummy about talking House Chezinu. Literally everyone else talked about the house to some extent. His reasoning for saying I'm scummy is that "a town player would stfu about this"; so is everyone who talked about the hosue scummy? During N0, that house thing is the only topic that generated any significant discussion; it's not anti-town to talk about the fcking town topic. This is a weak point at best.
On June 18 2012 20:59 FourFace wrote:2) Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 22:55 EchelonTee wrote: I'm not feeling KB quite yet, I'd say 201 is a better lynch. Thoughts? That's pathetic Second point; so Drazerk can troll, but I have to be serious. Game is fun.
On June 18 2012 20:59 FourFace wrote:3) 13th post About House Chezinu (hiccup+burp, excuse me) again but this time pay attention and think for a minute Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 22:58 EchelonTee wrote: well, I'm not sending my alignment to anyone as an application or whatever the hell, so if that's the actual way to join, then I'm not joining. If it's a mason circle, I want to be part of it. Simple as that. Call me scum for that if you want, I want more info on this whole she-bang. ET is so into mason circles, right? But here is the perfect opportunity to have a clean mason circle with no scum in it unless they claim scum via the application. I mean you send your application to the mods.. they announce your role and wincon in the circle and then you're good to chat among fellow confirmed townies but instead this is exactly what he doesn't want because as scum he would drop his disguise for what? A couple of third parties and townies because the MA wouldn't be so stupid to join and reveal himself like that and at this point ET must've also come to this conclusion. TL;DR: ET says he wants in on a potentially corrupted to hell mason circle but when the perspective arises to be in a perfectly sanitized pro-town mason circle he changes his mind. 3rd point; what does this even mean? He is assuming I am scum and saying "he realized that no scum would apply to the circle, so he wants to apply and corrupt the town circle"????????????? so simply wanting to be in a mason circle is scummy?? no it's not lol!!![/quote]
On June 18 2012 20:59 FourFace wrote:4) projected moraleShow nested quote +On June 18 2012 00:17 EchelonTee wrote: this game was a lot more fun about 8 pages ago, sad I missed out I've read somewhere that scum always points out the negative aspects is one of those times. He's saying this game sux, you all suck you are boring for fucks sake entertain me. This + the scum pong with Drazerk is reason enough for me to vote for you, because these passive and subtle blows to morale outweigh any active trolling attempts in harmfulness. 4th, so I'm not enjoying this game, now I'm scum. LOL[/quote]
On June 18 2012 20:59 FourFace wrote:5) - which someone said scum would want town to believe and I agree. Also in the same post a half-ass accusation of Maju because he is trending. Seeing no deaths, I consider the possibility of mafia faction; what other game didn't have a mafia faction? Bastard 1. Am I an idiot for considering the possibility? Apparently so. lol....
On June 18 2012 20:59 FourFace wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 03:10 EchelonTee wrote: if no one claims save, then I guess no mafia faction lolololol
totally called it that Chezinu was fake :p
Maju looks scummy, yah; he looked a lot like that in TL LV. I needa see if he has any older games where he's town. -His first newbie scum game when he was town, he was more forthright and called people scum and stuff, unlike this game. Not a bad lynch, looks scummy. 6) So basically he thinks he can get away with voting for those who other made cases against and are the most talked about suspicion-wise. 6th, so I'm scummy for thinking that scummy people are scum. Alright.................................... On June 18 2012 20:59 FourFace wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 11:29 EchelonTee wrote: I support either a KB lynch or a Maju lynch. I read one of KB's newbie town game and he actually sounded townie and stuff.
Do people not think Maju is scummy?
Gay, and lazy and careless imo. ##Vote: EchelonTee Then he calls me gay, justifying my scumminess.
where's the case I DONT SEE IT
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he has maybe 2 good points; the best point against me is that i haven't written big ass flashy pbpa analysis cases that get you guys hot and bothered, but all he did was take my posts, pretend that there are 6 points are against me and vote me. like this is sooooo badddd it hurtsssssssssssssssssss
like this makes you look bad as hell hiropro; I don't mind you independently thinking im scummy, but seriously you think that caseis good?????
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On June 19 2012 03:53 Hyaach wrote: Should have refreshed.
I played TL LV too. If you read Maju's filter there, its almost the same as what he did here and he turned out scum in that game.
The downside I see to Maju's question this game is his lack of stance on House Chezinu. He asked some legitimate questions but lack on a firm stance. That and he needs to get in and post soon or did he get pressured into lurking which ET could strongly claim fits Maju's scum meta in LV too.
But ET, meta could only get you so far, while i agree with you on Maju, I have no idea on the metas of the other players here and am lazy to read their previous game.
Bottomline, start finding solid case from post in here. my solid case is here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=343892&user=187599
lynch maju ffs
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On June 19 2012 03:47 Drazerk wrote: Scum palmar gets lynched because he doesn't play as scum... sandroba gets lynched because of meta. sandroba gets lynched because of meta stfu about meta being useless, you are just wrong and you hate meta for personal reasons or whatever
you don't meta players like toad or whatever the fuck, but come on; analyzing playstyles is wrong? lol man... i am so glad I /out'd of holy roman now
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......a list? tali? .........................................................................
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BioSC? Not now.
Lynch maju.
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Nah draz, just saying that I would've gotten trolled so hard lol, like i'd be raging like a fcking lunatic
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yeah remember? I was a scummy lurker lol. I just hate lists, kind of like how u guys hate meta. Not like my case on maju is based in meta or anything; it's based on his complete and utter lack of scumhunting or interest in scum hunting. a 3rd party would definitely be more interested in scumhunting than a standard anti-town player; don't want to be lynched, and have no reason to defend scummy people.
you better not shoot someone uncontroversial like Nisani or whatever. You think someone like me or whatever is scum, shoot me and let the fireworks explode. uncontroversial deaths don't help anything early game.
citation - TL LV.
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did anyone ever claim a shot? I don't see it
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On June 18 2012 05:59 MajuGarzett wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 02:59 HiroPro wrote:MajuGarzett:If you look at MajuGarzett's filter, he's posted several times throughout the game. He's not actually concerned with finding scum, though. He spends almost all of his time asking about what abilities and information you can get from being a member. He doesn't try to determine my alignment; all he's concerned about is what he can gain from joining. On June 17 2012 11:07 MajuGarzett wrote:On June 17 2012 10:50 xsksc wrote:On June 17 2012 10:05 Drazerk wrote: I should read the thread but that is too much effort ... I remember trying to lynch you in Steamship for this kind of posting. People just said, nah that's just how Drazerk plays. There's no need to be lazy though. -_- Is anyone else around atm? The thread's gone pretty quiet, let's try and get some constructive discussion going. I would like to hear some more opinnions on Nisanis and Kharadbanars haste in allying with an unknown faction, especially this early in the game. Personally, I don't like their decision at all. We have very little information about the House, because honestly, most of HiroPro's posts about it have been flavour and nonsense. It may turn out that HiroPro and his House turn out to be a good resource for town. Until I know more about it, however, I'm staying well clear. Well allying such a shady group is weird but there's no real downside to it as the alliance is so far just empty words. I can see why they did it. Honestly I think that the house won't really do anything to help Nisani and KB. The most telling part of MajuGarzett's filter though is where he responds to xsksc. MajuGarzett doesn't try to analyze the behavior of Nisani or KB. All he does is say "Oh, I don't think the house will help them". He's not interested in making a clear statement on what he thinks about House Chezinu (beyond trying to quietly discredit it). He's posting for the sake of posting. MajuGarzett isn't scumhunting; he's only concerned about himself. He's scum.
I wasn't just concerned with what I could gain from joining. I was concerned with what anyone could gain from joining. By knowing more about the house it allows for better reads on anyone who allied with or applied to the house. On the second point by use of extrapolation, we can see that by saying "I can see why they did it" I also meant " I don't find them scummy for wanting an alliance" which is a response to xsksc's question. It wasn't just posting for the sake of posting. You think this is an adequate response, HiroPro? He still hasn't 1. scumhunted. 2. posted stances on much of anything. How is this an adequate response? I think you're scum or 3rd party, HiroPro.
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On June 19 2012 04:07 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 04:06 EchelonTee wrote: did anyone ever claim a shot? I don't see it No one claimed being hit so it would be weird to claim a shot That's what I meant; I was asking if anyone had been claimed being hit.
That's strange. I highly doubt there is 0 night killing power; I'm thinking vets or townies didn't want to claim shots for whatever reason. Whatever.
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This probably is a decision you should make on your own lol; this is a mafia game, there are scum who will try and manipulate you. You're pretty good at the game, make a judgement call -.-
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I might be getting clouded by OMGUS; read HiroPro's case on me, and his stance on Maju/FF's case, and tell me that that isn't an example of twisting logic to fit a goal of making someone look scummy.
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On June 19 2012 04:10 HiroPro wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 06:31 MajuGarzett wrote:On June 18 2012 06:13 HiroPro wrote:On June 18 2012 05:59 MajuGarzett wrote:On June 18 2012 02:59 HiroPro wrote:MajuGarzett:If you look at MajuGarzett's filter, he's posted several times throughout the game. He's not actually concerned with finding scum, though. He spends almost all of his time asking about what abilities and information you can get from being a member. He doesn't try to determine my alignment; all he's concerned about is what he can gain from joining. On June 17 2012 11:07 MajuGarzett wrote:On June 17 2012 10:50 xsksc wrote:On June 17 2012 10:05 Drazerk wrote: I should read the thread but that is too much effort ... I remember trying to lynch you in Steamship for this kind of posting. People just said, nah that's just how Drazerk plays. There's no need to be lazy though. -_- Is anyone else around atm? The thread's gone pretty quiet, let's try and get some constructive discussion going. I would like to hear some more opinnions on Nisanis and Kharadbanars haste in allying with an unknown faction, especially this early in the game. Personally, I don't like their decision at all. We have very little information about the House, because honestly, most of HiroPro's posts about it have been flavour and nonsense. It may turn out that HiroPro and his House turn out to be a good resource for town. Until I know more about it, however, I'm staying well clear. Well allying such a shady group is weird but there's no real downside to it as the alliance is so far just empty words. I can see why they did it. Honestly I think that the house won't really do anything to help Nisani and KB. The most telling part of MajuGarzett's filter though is where he responds to xsksc. MajuGarzett doesn't try to analyze the behavior of Nisani or KB. All he does is say "Oh, I don't think the house will help them". He's not interested in making a clear statement on what he thinks about House Chezinu (beyond trying to quietly discredit it). He's posting for the sake of posting. MajuGarzett isn't scumhunting; he's only concerned about himself. He's scum.
I wasn't just concerned with what I could gain from joining. I was concerned with what anyone could gain from joining. By knowing more about the house it allows for better reads on anyone who allied with or applied to the house. On the second point by use of extrapolation, we can see that by saying "I can see why they did it" I also meant " I don't find them scummy for wanting an alliance" which is a response to xsksc's question. It wasn't just posting for the sake of posting. Explain this to me. You first say that by learning more about the house, you can make a better read on anyone. But I didn't give out anything really; so what specifically about their behavior makes you say you don't find them scummy? And those two statements are not the same thing: one is a fairly meaningless buddy-buddy statement, while the other is a clear opinion. Well I wanted to get info to make reads but obviously that didn't work out. Being bereft of such detailed info, I felt that KB and 201 being curious about the house and wanting to be privy to any resources it had without being roped into anything that could be bad for town wasn't particularly scummy as I felt scum would probably distance themselves from such a shady organization. No but this is. Maju: there isn't enough information to make a scum read, I'll make a scum read later
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people on TL Mafia are too obsessed with pbpa analysis. I learned in my first game here that anyone with a high school education can fake pbpa analysis like hell. i think that's way worse than crutching on meta, lol.
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On June 19 2012 04:16 HiroPro wrote: Read the entire conversation - He said that he didn't find them scummy. so who has he found scummy?
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On June 19 2012 04:17 HiroPro wrote: No one. That's why he's a survivor, and not town. How can you be so fraggen sure that he's survivor and not scum? It's not as though scum dislike making cases on people. It's not as though he acted exactly like this game in another game he was scum. It's not as though he looks like scum, and the only reason why the word "survivor" even comes up is that the last bastard game was chock full of them.
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Tali can write his own posts; it might be prepared, he doesn't need it written for him.
I would shoot either KB or dropbear. Dropbear because I think he's scum and a few people have written opinons on him, KB also scummy and would tell a lot b/c tons of people put stances on him.
I don't really agree with any of your shots; I'm not quite sure if you're even trying to shoot at scum?
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On June 19 2012 04:23 HiroPro wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 04:19 EchelonTee wrote:On June 19 2012 04:17 HiroPro wrote: No one. That's why he's a survivor, and not town. How can you be so fraggen sure that he's survivor and not scum? It's not as though scum dislike making cases on people. It's not as though he acted exactly like this game in another game he was scum. It's not as though he looks like scum, and the only reason why the word "survivor" even comes up is that the last bastard game was chock full of them. In Holy Roman, when he was accused, he called several other people scum and started voicing his opinion on lynches. He's so scared that he hasn't done anything this game; that suggests he's a survivor. Oo meta? He acted exactly like that in TL LV
TL LV: looks scummy, posts like 1 accusation in a 5 full day cycles HolyRo: looks scummy, calls people scum Bastard2: looks scummy.......
Hmm, evidence suggests that when Maju is scummy.... he's scum! holy balls!
Btw, you still haven't unvoted me. You really think you're going to mislynch me today?
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It depends how you want to treat your vigshot really. If you're thinking of it like a standard nightvig shot, then you just want to him scum. Nisani wouldn't be a bad option then.
If you're thinking of it like a secondary lync though, you don't want it to be a safe throwaway or whatever.
don't shoot SnB or Draz as I feel like from your list they are least likely to be scum, otherwise make your judgement call.
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On June 19 2012 04:35 HiroPro wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 04:29 EchelonTee wrote:On June 19 2012 04:23 HiroPro wrote:On June 19 2012 04:19 EchelonTee wrote:On June 19 2012 04:17 HiroPro wrote: No one. That's why he's a survivor, and not town. How can you be so fraggen sure that he's survivor and not scum? It's not as though scum dislike making cases on people. It's not as though he acted exactly like this game in another game he was scum. It's not as though he looks like scum, and the only reason why the word "survivor" even comes up is that the last bastard game was chock full of them. In Holy Roman, when he was accused, he called several other people scum and started voicing his opinion on lynches. He's so scared that he hasn't done anything this game; that suggests he's a survivor. Oo meta? He acted exactly like that in TL LV TL LV: looks scummy, posts like 1 accusation in a 5 full day cycles HolyRo: looks scummy, calls people scum Bastard2: looks scummy....... Hmm, evidence suggests that when Maju is scummy.... he's scum! holy balls! Btw, you still haven't unvoted me. You really think you're going to mislynch me today? Are you scared of being lynched? Show me that you're town. There were no survivors in either of those games; your argument is trash. Not to mention that he hasn't called anyone scum, when he does do that when under pressure as scum. My arguement that when Maju is scummy he is likely to be scum is trash, right.
Scared of being lynched? Lmao, you couldn't lynch me even if you were trying.
It's funny how you try to sound confident and stuff, it's really cute.
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I don't know whether he's scum or survivor. Usually, I just lynch scummy people when I see them. That a bad playstyle?
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On June 19 2012 03:36 EchelonTee wrote:+ Show Spoiler +No one has given much defense on Maju. I'm not going to do your work for you; look at his filter; scummy as fuck. Evidence? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=343892&user=187599 what's his filter look like? a bunch of questions to random people, no direction AT ALL how many people has he called scum ? 0 <<< I point you to my TL LV case: Look at Maju's posts: who has he called out as suspicious? [redacted, it's 0 in this game]
Who does he make a case on? ....No one.
How many posts does he have? A decent amount. That's what I mean by "extremely low content to post ratio". He has almost no interest in scumhunting based on the amount of posts he has that aren't scumhunting. lynch this scum Maju, it's so obvious that it baffles me There's my case.
On June 19 2012 03:52 EchelonTee wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 18 2012 20:59 FourFace wrote: Reflections regarding EchelonTee;
1) ETs first 11 posts are all about House Chezinu cheers, more specifically on and off about it being a cult or not.. like playing ping pong with my patience = the ball, and him and Drazerk the players. I call it scum pong that can, at it's finest, make you want to slit your wrist while trying to read the thread like in LVI Toad vs VE.
He says he called it as trolling but he simply enumerated all the possibilities not definitely opting for either. He also states the intention of being part of a mason circle that anyone can join and is being established on n0 - which means you have no clue about the alignment of the players yet and thus it's very likely that scum join the circle. Technically it's not a mason circle and one is supposed to be weary and cautious upon joining under these particular circumstances but the fact that he takes the words mason circle in his mouth and repeatedly chews it over is scummy imo A town player would see the lack of benefit in this whole endeavor and stfu about it.
First point; says I'm scummy about talking House Chezinu. Literally everyone else talked about the house to some extent. His reasoning for saying I'm scummy is that "a town player would stfu about this"; so is everyone who talked about the hosue scummy? During N0, that house thing is the only topic that generated any significant discussion; it's not anti-town to talk about the fcking town topic. This is a weak point at best. On June 18 2012 20:59 FourFace wrote:2) Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 22:55 EchelonTee wrote: I'm not feeling KB quite yet, I'd say 201 is a better lynch. Thoughts? That's pathetic Second point; so Drazerk can troll, but I have to be serious. Game is fun. On June 18 2012 20:59 FourFace wrote:3) 13th post About House Chezinu (hiccup+burp, excuse me) again but this time pay attention and think for a minute Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 22:58 EchelonTee wrote: well, I'm not sending my alignment to anyone as an application or whatever the hell, so if that's the actual way to join, then I'm not joining. If it's a mason circle, I want to be part of it. Simple as that. Call me scum for that if you want, I want more info on this whole she-bang. ET is so into mason circles, right? But here is the perfect opportunity to have a clean mason circle with no scum in it unless they claim scum via the application. I mean you send your application to the mods.. they announce your role and wincon in the circle and then you're good to chat among fellow confirmed townies but instead this is exactly what he doesn't want because as scum he would drop his disguise for what? A couple of third parties and townies because the MA wouldn't be so stupid to join and reveal himself like that and at this point ET must've also come to this conclusion. TL;DR: ET says he wants in on a potentially corrupted to hell mason circle but when the perspective arises to be in a perfectly sanitized pro-town mason circle he changes his mind. 3rd point; what does this even mean? He is assuming I am scum and saying "he realized that no scum would apply to the circle, so he wants to apply and corrupt the town circle"????????????? so simply wanting to be in a mason circle is scummy?? no it's not lol!!!
On June 18 2012 20:59 FourFace wrote:4) projected moraleShow nested quote +On June 18 2012 00:17 EchelonTee wrote: this game was a lot more fun about 8 pages ago, sad I missed out I've read somewhere that scum always points out the negative aspects is one of those times. He's saying this game sux, you all suck you are boring for fucks sake entertain me. This + the scum pong with Drazerk is reason enough for me to vote for you, because these passive and subtle blows to morale outweigh any active trolling attempts in harmfulness. 4th, so I'm not enjoying this game, now I'm scum. LOL[/quote]
On June 18 2012 20:59 FourFace wrote:5) - which someone said scum would want town to believe and I agree. Also in the same post a half-ass accusation of Maju because he is trending. Seeing no deaths, I consider the possibility of mafia faction; what other game didn't have a mafia faction? Bastard 1. Am I an idiot for considering the possibility? Apparently so. lol....
On June 18 2012 20:59 FourFace wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 03:10 EchelonTee wrote: if no one claims save, then I guess no mafia faction lolololol
totally called it that Chezinu was fake :p
Maju looks scummy, yah; he looked a lot like that in TL LV. I needa see if he has any older games where he's town. -His first newbie scum game when he was town, he was more forthright and called people scum and stuff, unlike this game. Not a bad lynch, looks scummy. 6) So basically he thinks he can get away with voting for those who other made cases against and are the most talked about suspicion-wise. 6th, so I'm scummy for thinking that scummy people are scum. Alright.................................... On June 18 2012 20:59 FourFace wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 11:29 EchelonTee wrote: I support either a KB lynch or a Maju lynch. I read one of KB's newbie town game and he actually sounded townie and stuff.
Do people not think Maju is scummy?
Gay, and lazy and careless imo. ##Vote: EchelonTee Then he calls me gay, justifying my scumminess.
where's the case I DONT SEE IT[/QUOTE]There's my defense.
On June 19 2012 01:52 HiroPro wrote:In the beginning of the game he tried to lead the discussion into useless stuff about the way Toad played in LV. He says that he wants to join a mason circle without revealing his alignment. This is scummy; all he wants is to influence others. He speculates that there may not even be mafia in this game: S&B and FourFace are right: this is what mafia want us to think. "Wants to join mason circle without revealing his alignment, this is scummy". This statement is hilariously illogical. If I was scum, I would join the circle saying I am town. If I was town, I would join the circle saying I am town. If I was neutral, I would join the circle saying I am town. Wanting to join a mason circle is not a scum position.
There was no night kill, and no claimed hit. There is a possibility that there is no mafia because of that. There was no mafia faction in the bastard 1. It is not scummy for me to make a logical conclusion.
Anything else, HiroPro?
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EBWOP:On June 19 2012 04:59 EchelonTee wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 03:36 EchelonTee wrote:+ Show Spoiler +No one has given much defense on Maju. I'm not going to do your work for you; look at his filter; scummy as fuck. Evidence? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=343892&user=187599 what's his filter look like? a bunch of questions to random people, no direction AT ALL how many people has he called scum ? 0 <<< I point you to my TL LV case: Look at Maju's posts: who has he called out as suspicious? [redacted, it's 0 in this game]
Who does he make a case on? ....No one.
How many posts does he have? A decent amount. That's what I mean by "extremely low content to post ratio". He has almost no interest in scumhunting based on the amount of posts he has that aren't scumhunting. lynch this scum Maju, it's so obvious that it baffles me There's my case. Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 03:52 EchelonTee wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 18 2012 20:59 FourFace wrote: Reflections regarding EchelonTee;
1) ETs first 11 posts are all about House Chezinu cheers, more specifically on and off about it being a cult or not.. like playing ping pong with my patience = the ball, and him and Drazerk the players. I call it scum pong that can, at it's finest, make you want to slit your wrist while trying to read the thread like in LVI Toad vs VE.
He says he called it as trolling but he simply enumerated all the possibilities not definitely opting for either. He also states the intention of being part of a mason circle that anyone can join and is being established on n0 - which means you have no clue about the alignment of the players yet and thus it's very likely that scum join the circle. Technically it's not a mason circle and one is supposed to be weary and cautious upon joining under these particular circumstances but the fact that he takes the words mason circle in his mouth and repeatedly chews it over is scummy imo A town player would see the lack of benefit in this whole endeavor and stfu about it.
First point; says I'm scummy about talking House Chezinu. Literally everyone else talked about the house to some extent. His reasoning for saying I'm scummy is that "a town player would stfu about this"; so is everyone who talked about the hosue scummy? During N0, that house thing is the only topic that generated any significant discussion; it's not anti-town to talk about the fcking town topic. This is a weak point at best. On June 18 2012 20:59 FourFace wrote:2) Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 22:55 EchelonTee wrote: I'm not feeling KB quite yet, I'd say 201 is a better lynch. Thoughts? That's pathetic Second point; so Drazerk can troll, but I have to be serious. Game is fun. On June 18 2012 20:59 FourFace wrote:3) 13th post About House Chezinu (hiccup+burp, excuse me) again but this time pay attention and think for a minute Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 22:58 EchelonTee wrote: well, I'm not sending my alignment to anyone as an application or whatever the hell, so if that's the actual way to join, then I'm not joining. If it's a mason circle, I want to be part of it. Simple as that. Call me scum for that if you want, I want more info on this whole she-bang. ET is so into mason circles, right? But here is the perfect opportunity to have a clean mason circle with no scum in it unless they claim scum via the application. I mean you send your application to the mods.. they announce your role and wincon in the circle and then you're good to chat among fellow confirmed townies but instead this is exactly what he doesn't want because as scum he would drop his disguise for what? A couple of third parties and townies because the MA wouldn't be so stupid to join and reveal himself like that and at this point ET must've also come to this conclusion. TL;DR: ET says he wants in on a potentially corrupted to hell mason circle but when the perspective arises to be in a perfectly sanitized pro-town mason circle he changes his mind. 3rd point; what does this even mean? He is assuming I am scum and saying "he realized that no scum would apply to the circle, so he wants to apply and corrupt the town circle"????????????? so simply wanting to be in a mason circle is scummy?? no it's not lol!!! On June 18 2012 20:59 FourFace wrote:4) projected moraleShow nested quote +On June 18 2012 00:17 EchelonTee wrote: this game was a lot more fun about 8 pages ago, sad I missed out I've read somewhere that scum always points out the negative aspects is one of those times. He's saying this game sux, you all suck you are boring for fucks sake entertain me. This + the scum pong with Drazerk is reason enough for me to vote for you, because these passive and subtle blows to morale outweigh any active trolling attempts in harmfulness. 4th, so I'm not enjoying this game, now I'm scum. LOL On June 18 2012 20:59 FourFace wrote:5) - which someone said scum would want town to believe and I agree. Also in the same post a half-ass accusation of Maju because he is trending. Seeing no deaths, I consider the possibility of mafia faction; what other game didn't have a mafia faction? Bastard 1. Am I an idiot for considering the possibility? Apparently so. lol.... On June 18 2012 20:59 FourFace wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 03:10 EchelonTee wrote: if no one claims save, then I guess no mafia faction lolololol
totally called it that Chezinu was fake :p
Maju looks scummy, yah; he looked a lot like that in TL LV. I needa see if he has any older games where he's town. -His first newbie scum game when he was town, he was more forthright and called people scum and stuff, unlike this game. Not a bad lynch, looks scummy. 6) So basically he thinks he can get away with voting for those who other made cases against and are the most talked about suspicion-wise. 6th, so I'm scummy for thinking that scummy people are scum. Alright.................................... On June 18 2012 20:59 FourFace wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 11:29 EchelonTee wrote: I support either a KB lynch or a Maju lynch. I read one of KB's newbie town game and he actually sounded townie and stuff.
Do people not think Maju is scummy?
Gay, and lazy and careless imo. ##Vote: EchelonTee Then he calls me gay, justifying my scumminess. where's the case I DONT SEE IT There's my defense. Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 01:52 HiroPro wrote:In the beginning of the game he tried to lead the discussion into useless stuff about the way Toad played in LV. He says that he wants to join a mason circle without revealing his alignment. This is scummy; all he wants is to influence others. He speculates that there may not even be mafia in this game: S&B and FourFace are right: this is what mafia want us to think. "Wants to join mason circle without revealing his alignment, this is scummy". This statement is hilariously illogical. If I was scum, I would join the circle saying I am town. If I was town, I would join the circle saying I am town. If I was neutral, I would join the circle saying I am town. Wanting to join a mason circle is not a scum position. There was no night kill, and no claimed hit. There is a possibility that there is no mafia because of that. There was no mafia faction in the bastard 1. It is not scummy for me to make a logical conclusion. Anything else, HiroPro?
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On June 18 2012 09:58 xsksc wrote:I'm not sure if it's worth wasting the shot. Who would you lynch if KB was out of the equation? This is the only thing that really caught my eye about xsksc. Doesn't want his biggest scumread to be shot?
Overall though, need more info. Don't agree with him being lynched today.
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On June 19 2012 05:17 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 03:39 HiroPro wrote: I made the case on Maju lol. I've read his filter; but he responded okay to me, and I think it's more likely that he's a survivor than scum.
And we played together in MTG. That's not the way you're playing this game. I have no idea how Maju plays as town, but his defense to you was not decent. It gave a rather thin explanation for why he fired off questions at night, but he failed to do anything useful. Maju is looking scummy to me. hallelujah
sane people have returned
inb4 buddying
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am I REALLY the only one who didn't get an exciting role?
I just remembered the damn king, lol. It would be so lame if kind just determines the lynch or w.e.
Day is halfway over. It's time to consolidate. I feel pretty strongly about maju being anti-town; opinions?
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DropBear is my secondary lynch preference.
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DropBear
His first post is fairly fluffy regarding the house, talking about "I don't not trust you, but I don't trust you", and "VE lolol", which isn't ordinarily a big concern for the early game, but considering that his suspicion on KB is for talking about "filler", it's hypocritical. Esp. since KB's speculation is more relevant than DB's (KB specifically says be careful with your alignment.
Same point, DB is implying that KB being diplomatic towards the House is scummy, even though DB's first post was diplomatic as fck.
He warps some logic when trying to tunnel KB more. He uses the fact that Nisani is defending him as a reason to call KB scummy; there is no associative tell to make, you don't know Nisani's alignment. I already adressed the House comments. The "scumslip" he mentions isn't much. The biggest reason why he calls KB is scum is because "has big fluffy posts where he doesn't say much", but KB has been doing a lot more since then, which DB ignores.
He's been playing a very tight game where his only accusation is on KB, considered to be an "easy accusation". This is not scummy inherently, but it's how I would've played it as scum, probably. Make an accusation that is easy, don't post much else on other topics.
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Tali, you should shoot soon if you have an informed decision. Don't make it last minute; we can use the flip to help figure out the lynch.
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On June 19 2012 05:42 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 04:46 HiroPro wrote:On June 19 2012 04:41 EchelonTee wrote: I don't know whether he's scum or survivor. Usually, I just lynch scummy people when I see them. That a bad playstyle? When you're not explaining anything, when you refuse to make proper reads, when you advocate scum positions, when you lightly defend yourself without saying anything, I call that being scum. Because this is clearly not the way you play as town. But Maju did all of those (except really advocate scum positions... he didn't make enough posts to do that), yet you're saying he's survivor. How does that work? It doesn't. HiroPro is twisting logic. We'll get to him later.
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npnpnpnpn, just want to make sure you don't do it too last minute.
Maju or Dropbear. Vote em or bring a better case.
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On June 19 2012 05:46 Drazerk wrote: god damn you ET T_T wat?
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On June 19 2012 05:53 FourFace wrote:He's insulting me, insulting Hiro for giving his enforcing opinion on the case and now he's all over the thread and still hasn't made any noteworthy contribution; and again he is insulting which I, believe it or not, didn't intent to be when I said his moves were gay.. in the gamer sense of the word. I obviously wasn't saying anything about his or anyone else's orientation. PS: marvellosity gtfo You called me gay as an insult, and you have the nerve to say I am being insulting? "In the gamer sense of the word"? Disgusting.
"Hasn't made any noteworthy contribution"? Lying.
Tell me what you think of DB and Maju.
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!! deconduo about to do something
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On June 19 2012 06:59 talismania wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 06:52 deconduo wrote:Hey talis, if you are telling the truth about being a dayvig can you post the following statement please? I am a dayvig I am town Deconduo is town I'm nervous - is that going to do something? I am a dayvig. I am going to shoot within the next five hours. If I don't, I will be lynched. Tali, I recommend you do it, if you are actually town. I have an idea of what it is.
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deconduo you whiffed it!!!! cmon man
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I don't agree with a KB shot; I think he's town. It feels like a mis-shot. I don't agree with the cases put forth as I touched upon on my DropBear post, and posts like these feel townie to me.
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FUCK
YES
FUCK YES
EAT IT HIROPRO EAT IT FUCK YES
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man i just screamed out loud, that makes me so gdam happy lolllllllllllllll
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Yeah, sorry for the outburst. Just happy.
I know I called you scum or something like that once, but I'm not very interested in you atm. We should look at people who soft defended Maju, but the fact that he only has one(?) partner means it might not be easy to find an easy connection.
There was 1KP last night and it was never accounted for. If you're town, it'd probably be best to claim it so we have pertinent information; since no one claimed, I am going to currently assume that a neutral or another anti-town faction was shot.
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Ah, mbad misread it.
NS tali, btw
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On June 19 2012 13:51 DropBear wrote:I also am unsure what to think of deconduo. This early post from deconduo caught my eye immediately and to me was a huge blueslip, highlighted here: Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 07:09 deconduo wrote: I think Hiro pointed out that people who allied with Chezinu were probably scum/survivors but I disagree. Wanting to increase your survival chances is a town trait for people who feel they have a good blue role, especially docs/cops. As for the individual people:
This immediately made me think decon was a blue of some kind. Was this deliberate? He has soft defended Maju a few times but. did you read the thread?
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Tali could be 3rd party with a day shot; not confirmed town, btw. Drazerk in Aperture had a similar role.
On June 19 2012 13:39 DropBear wrote:NISANI201 IS A SCUMBAGDefends Maju with no reasoning. THIS IS DODGY AS ALL HELL. Tries to ally himself with Hiro at the beginning of the game purely for the sake of safety, clearly has something to hide. The case on xsksc is terrible. Extremely defensive. Generally is only popping up to defend himself. NISANI201 IS RED AND NEEDS TO DIE This actually is a pretty good catch. Hiro already made the case that 201 is scum/3rd party, and he leaned survivor. That maju connection pushes that feeling towards scum.
The beauty of the situation is that since there are multiple factions, you could both be Anti-town!
I'm willing to shelve DB for Nisani. Thoughts?
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On June 19 2012 13:31 DropBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 05:40 EchelonTee wrote: This is not scummy inherently, but it's how I would've played it as scum, probably. I'm sorry, what? Playing a tight game isn't inherently scummy, but it's how I usually play scum. Which is why I still haven't been lynched as scum (ss mafia doesn't count). It's kind of why I took a look at you in the first place. The only big opinion you laid down earlier was on KB, despite a decent amount of thread hullabaloo going on.
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On June 19 2012 05:10 Nisani201 wrote:My main understanding of the "house chezinu" mainly came from Merc Mini 2 where I played with Chezinu, and he was acting very similar to Hiro's play in this game. In that game Chezinu was a bulletproof SK and I figured that it was very likely Hiro had a lot of power. I didn't want to get stuck in some stupid feud with a third party when I could have been scumhunting. Furthermore, I didn't really see any downside to allying with the House... and no one has pointed one out; people have been saying that this kind of affiliation with it is scummy but I don't really see why that is. This is a weird statement from Nisani. He bases the fact that he wanted to ally with HiroPro on the past reference of Chezinu being a bulletproof SK. If he was town, wouldn't he be immediately suspicious of someone he thought was a bulletproof SK? SK's, though 3rd party, want to kill town mates unlike survivors. His reasoning is "I didn't want to get stuck in some feud when I could be scumhunting", but that doesn't make much sense; if he really believed that HiroPro was a SK type, then he should've been going after HiroPro.
The only issue is that it's Nisani, and he's always a btch to read.
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Let's kill Nisani.
##unvote ##Vote: Nisani201
12 Hours to lynch. Any other contenders?
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On June 19 2012 16:38 talismania wrote: I will say this again:
it's really unlikely nisani is maju's partner.
Nisani claimed "a crazy role" with "extra win and extra lose" wincons. The existence of "extra lose" wincons was backed up by acrofales. Maju did not have any of these wincons. Therefore I find it an incredibly fortunate lie by nisani to have made that up if he is indeed maju's partner. More likely, nisani is third party or something. This is actually quite. Nisani is probably 3rd party unless he simply lied about having multiple win. Now that I think about it, when he said "I don't want to start a feud with a potentially strong faction", that sounds a lot like a 3rd party saying "I don't want any trouble boys, do your thing". Add in that he hasn't been hiding to the extent that Maju did, means that I'm fairly confident Nisani is 3rd.cons. Whether he is an SK-type or a survivor-type we don't know.
You guys have to remember that 1. Maju appears to only have 1 partner, and 2. there are likely to be SK types or other mafia factions. With that in mind, just because someone does mention, or doesn't mention Maju doesn't damn them or exonerate them. The associative tell is stronger in a standard game; in this setup, we can't just say "DropBear didn't mention Maju, must be his partner".
We're running very low on time. I am not saying this to fearmonger; I am saying this because we have to decide on a lynch ASAP and last minute sht never works. Nisani is probably 3rd party; a lynch on him would be OK; but I do consider it less likely that he will flip anti-town due to his behavior.
I need to think about it more. Nisani is my backup lynch preference if the next 8 hours is a shit show, as I doubt he's Town, but I would prefer to find someone scummier. It's quite possible he's a harmless 3rd, and he hasn't been completely non-constructive or whatever the heck.
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On June 19 2012 17:27 Hyaach wrote:Just because I'm not around at spam time does not mean I'm lurking. You allying with House Chezinu does not prove your alignment at best. at worst, it makes you look like 3rd party. Information that would benefit town and 3rd party alike is not very telling of you. Most of your question was on N0. Then when Talis asked you questions about the set up, you pop up a defensive questionShow nested quote +On June 18 2012 09:20 Nisani201 wrote:First of all I'd like to call out BioSC for hardcore lurking throughout all of N0. However I'd prefer not to lynch a lurker today because I think there are better targets. xsksc is who I'd like to lynch today. Read his filter, and you'll see that he is sort of unwilling to contribute but is trying to make posts in the thread. In other words, all of his posts are easy to make. His most recent post, commenting on me and KB wanting to ally with the House Chezinu, is once again very diplomatic and is siding towards the general popular opinion on the thread. Putting my vote on him for now. ##Vote: xsksc How is that a case? If anything he has the same play as you making post in thread which are easy to make. And you are not even committing on this case. You kept asking around for opinions on him. Seems to me you are waiting for response before you fully commit. Why so wishy washy? And no you attacking my cases on you will not make me back down. If i can't convince, just read his filter yourself. this post is pretty derp. The comment where you say do the "at best" "at worst" thing regarding Chezinu doesn't mean anything. The correct statement is "you allying with Chezinu does not prove your alignment.", but you put in that second bit to find a reason to call him bad.
I also dislike when people ask about my role and wincon. Because, you know, usually you don't want to post your role and wincon in thread whether town scum or 3rd. His "defensive question" isn't scummy.
His case on xsksc is adequate. You don't need a big fat PBPA analysis case of w.e.
I am liking a Nisani lynch less and less, especially seeing the people who are for it. Hmmm.... I think I'm going to agree with what's been said by Tali/Nisani so far.
##Unvote: ##Vote: xslsc
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about 8.5 hours to lynch. It's go time.
As far I can tell, the only viable candidates are Nisani201, DropBear, xsksc, or KB. Pick between then; since it's plurality lynch, there isn't as much rush hullabaloo to consolidate, but you best put your reasoning down.
I'd like opinions on xsksc, because there hasn't been much discussion on him. He also stated that he might not be around for deadline, which is troubling.
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Vote Count: (in order of voting)
Nisani (5): dropbear, xsksc, hiropro, deconduo, Hyaach xsksc (3): nisani, tali, ET DropBear (2): Drazerk, Acro KharadBanar (1): BioSC MajuGarzett (1): KB EchelonTee (1): FourFace
Not Voted: Strongandbig
Nisani to be lynched.
Kharad still hasn't changed his vote from the dead Maju =/ maybe I was wrong about him. Given the chance for a breather, he uses it to lurk instead of contribute or be townie or anything.
I consider BioSC's vote a throwaway; I highly doubt he is Town. Completely unconcerned with what has been going on lately. Voting someone who is highly unlikely to be lynched at this point suggests that you are unconcerned with who will be lynched, and of the people voting low count players, BioSC is by far the most scummy.
FourFace has also been absent for a while, since his case on me got shut down. And where the heck is SnB?
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TBH, this game has been pretty uncrazy so far... the craziest thing was the Chezinu thing that HiroPro came up with.
when are the bastard roles going to come out??
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On June 20 2012 03:36 HiroPro wrote: Guys guys, I've discovered the secret to this setup. Maju looked scummy - he was scum. KB looked scummy - he was anti-town third party.
Nisani201 looks scummy. We should lynch him!!!! lol
I can't argue with that logic since I was beating you over the head with it on maju
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On June 20 2012 03:13 FourFace wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2012 03:12 Acrofales wrote:On June 20 2012 02:57 FourFace wrote: FourFace to the rescue. I am If you guys have read the pre-game discussion it should come as no surprise that I'm bulletproof. Well, I'm the Insane Bulletproof Detective, at least that's what I think because Hiro returned anti-town. I am offering you guys my service in the form of a shield, meaning i'll be the last one to vote DropBear. My role PM clearly states that I can only be killed as the consequence of a lynch and another thing which I won't tell for the sake of my own safety. I am claiming now because this role is imba and scum can't touch me.. it is a bit gay actually but I'll make the best of it.
##Vote: DropBear
I don't have a strong scum read on him but he's going to get lynched anyway.
If your sanity is in question, I suggest you check DropBear tonight... that should give you more info on whether you're sane, insane or paranoid. Of course, I'm not sure I believe this roleclaim. A bulletproof cop seems retardedly powerful. I'm checking ET tonight. You can't convince me otherwise .. only the thread can. announcing checks ftw lol... very unlikely that there will be any role that can obsfucate your check, yeah -.-
or, simply put, roleblocker. lol..................... did you think this claim through?
On June 20 2012 03:09 BioSC wrote: Wowzie! a scum AND a 3rd party lynch! Good start for us townies! I'm glad to have been on the right track! 5/5 would read again
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lol FF is always worth a chuckle
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how do you know there's no roleblocker?
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On June 20 2012 05:15 Nisani201 wrote: FourFace: you should check out of DropBear, Drazerk, and xsksc. Tell us in the morning who you checked and what you got.
what es this blue directing
am I seriously the only one who's like "wtf dt claim"? Did I miss a memo where DTs in this game have their checks put through without manipulation or something?
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On June 20 2012 06:12 FourFace wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2012 06:08 EchelonTee wrote: how do you know there's no roleblocker? Read the setup description AND CORRECTION LADIES AND GENTS. During night 0, you and your ally may chose a player to Frame. That player will be read as anti-town for all future checks, and will flip as "Framed [Role]". You and your partner have 1 KP per night starting from Night 1 I repeat during night 0 so the frame has been done .. no more framing power.. means EchelonTee is a moron for saying this. Show nested quote +On June 20 2012 06:00 EchelonTee wrote:On June 20 2012 03:13 FourFace wrote:On June 20 2012 03:12 Acrofales wrote:On June 20 2012 02:57 FourFace wrote: FourFace to the rescue. I am If you guys have read the pre-game discussion it should come as no surprise that I'm bulletproof. Well, I'm the Insane Bulletproof Detective, at least that's what I think because Hiro returned anti-town. I am offering you guys my service in the form of a shield, meaning i'll be the last one to vote DropBear. My role PM clearly states that I can only be killed as the consequence of a lynch and another thing which I won't tell for the sake of my own safety. I am claiming now because this role is imba and scum can't touch me.. it is a bit gay actually but I'll make the best of it.
##Vote: DropBear
I don't have a strong scum read on him but he's going to get lynched anyway.
If your sanity is in question, I suggest you check DropBear tonight... that should give you more info on whether you're sane, insane or paranoid. Of course, I'm not sure I believe this roleclaim. A bulletproof cop seems retardedly powerful. I'm checking ET tonight. You can't convince me otherwise .. only the thread can. announcing checks ftw lol... very unlikely that there will be any role that can obsfucate your check, yeah -.- or, simply put, roleblocker. lol..................... did you think this claim through? On June 20 2012 03:09 BioSC wrote: Wowzie! a scum AND a 3rd party lynch! Good start for us townies! I'm glad to have been on the right track! 5/5 would read again And the way he said it. You are so below my level of intellect. I read the setup description.
1. there could be more framers. just because a framer died n0 doesn't mean they're gone. 2. there could be RBers. just because you weren't RB'd last night doesn't mean you won't be RB'd today. The setup clearly implies the existance of RBers. 3. you can't know there won't be manipulation. this is a fcking bastard game.
And I don't even know why you claimed; you could've easily claimed later and not had to deal with the possibility of manipulation. This is shit blue play lol. The players from my newbie game would stomp you.
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On June 20 2012 06:18 FourFace wrote:But wait .. Show nested quote +You are not informed about being roleblocked unless you tried and failed to use a night-action Actually why have a roleblocker when you can frame. Idn, anyway it seems unlikely to have a roleblocker, but we'll find out if he decides to block me. Seems unlikely?? How???? you are jst saying random shit that you feel like saying lol
always worth a chuckle
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On June 20 2012 06:15 FourFace wrote: There will be no manipulation as stated earlier. I seriously suggest we reconsider DropBear and let me go through with checking and the MA crowning ET. Pretty please. Actually nah.. let him suffer for a while. MA -> crown DropBear becasue that's what we decided upon during the day. wtf is this shit? you still want me dead? lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
either you know a lot more about this setup than all of us or you are just a raving lunatic
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am I seriously the only one who's like "wtf dt claim"? Did I miss a memo where DTs in this game have their checks put through without manipulation or something? People who aren't crazy; please tell me, did I miss a memo on DTs and their indelible checks?
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On June 20 2012 06:24 FourFace wrote: 2. I read the OP and The following roles may or may not be present in the game; Detective, Medic, Mafia Goon, so I figured that only these are in the game. my bad. The scum cop was obviously not just a goon. Yeah that was stupid.
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On June 20 2012 06:37 FourFace wrote: Myeah.. I'm not going to sit for your trolling shitstorm. This was predictable I should've dodged earlier.. you piece of fucking shit. Done playing with you. You've got serious problems.
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I quit. I'm not going to play with someone who doesn't even understand why using gay as an insult towards anything is a completely and utterly ignorant thing to do.
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The worst thing about you is that you're both bad and an asshole. If you were just bad I wouldn't care, or just an asshole then whatever, but the fact that you're shoving your vitrol down our throats? Despicable, really.
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Sorry for being a drama queen, guys.
I think looking too hard for Maju's partner might not be the best idea. You have to remember that it's possible that they let no connection rise up between them. Associative tells work better when you're against a full scum team, not a mixed bag of 3rd and red.
Should just standard scumhunt.
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I have a name, but revealing it would reveal my role pretty obviously. Sort of how saying "I'm Phoenix Wright" should point to Deconduo's role for whoever followed Aperture.
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I like biosc. I think he's scum but I like him.
Not on a cpu atm, ill get back to you in the morning hiropro.
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GG
Again, apologies to the hosts for causing a mess.
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gg
I'm not in endgame post so I didn't win? Same with DropBear.
Thanks for hosting.
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I was grouchy and disagree-able, which I often get like when I get accused as town. However I was really caught off guard because I thought the fact that it was a Bastard Game, +the fact that the last Bastard Game had such few anti-town elements, I didn't think I had to play so seriously. Which is why when people started accusing me with what I considered to be bad logic (though the logic wasn't terrible tbh), I went into asshole townie mode. Which worked to some extent, but made me into a real asshole and lead to that whole debacle, so I apologize for that, especially for requesting a replacement midgame.
So yeah, sorry and I'm happy that the game still worked out for you guys.
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I'm also kind of surprised I got shot because I still looked sort of scummy despite shoving Maju; I probably would've pegged myself as an anti-town 3rd party.
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