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Maybe this time people will remember that dead people have win conditions... | ||
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On June 16 2012 00:56 HiroPro wrote: I wouldn't assume that there is a town in this game Scum slip | ||
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On June 16 2012 02:21 blubbdavid wrote: No 3rd party Planar Dragon? /out No they just said no scum variant of the role Much like they said no town variant of the watcher role | ||
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When in doubt murder 2 scum teams to get town credit | ||
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On June 16 2012 22:03 KharadBanar wrote: I'm okay with that, there's nine players before me in the alphabet Also you are going to be shot relatively soon with your F, lol He never said the English alphabet | ||
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On June 16 2012 23:20 Acrofales wrote: Lynch me and you lynch a townie. I think that is abundantly clear. The only reason to want to lynch me is because you're scum! Nope im third party | ||
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On June 17 2012 04:09 strongandbig wrote: Hmm, that was interesting about the encryption. Forcing scum to set up their roleclaims day1 seems like it would be a pretty strong town move. FWIW, I don't think the "posting parts of your pm from the mods" rule is relevant here at all. AFAIK that rule was put in place to stop people from breaking games by comparing specific wording of PMs, it definitely doesn't outlaw roleclaiming at all. That said, if the hosts think it would break the setup then that's too bad, but we can't do it. Coming into this game I had 17 fake role claim ideas in case I was scum / third party. I think its more of a scum move than a town move Also Ill read the thread now rather than the first sentence of the last post | ||
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I advice everyone else does the same so we can play a normal game | ||
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On June 17 2012 04:30 Nisani201 wrote: HiroPro did you actually think anyone would agree to honestly claiming their role in-thread? I would if I read my role PM | ||
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I think House Chezinu is a Cult If you join them you are retarded. I am still ignoring Hiro | ||
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On June 17 2012 04:41 Acrofales wrote: Yo Drazerk, want to roleclaim in the thread? I don't trust you on basic principle and you're bound to claim some outrageously ridiculous role. I want to see it before I decide whether you're worth lynching over House Chezinu. @HiroPro: ignoring me is dumb. I have legitimate concerns about you and House Chezinu and I feel your play is screwing up this game in a way that can only benefit scum (or, as the mods are phrasing it, anti-town). You claim 5th party, which almost by definition is not town. You are also claiming a mysterious board of directors who you are unwilling to talk about, yet are convinced are town. I have a far simpler solution: Chezinu is scum and the board of directors is whoever else is chatting to Hiro in ScumQT. Just another question: how many directors are there on your so-called board of directors? You post slow | ||
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On June 17 2012 04:45 Acrofales wrote: So do you, now answer the question. And yes, I read where you said you didn't read your role PM. I don't believe it. Meh I play by my own rules anyway you should know this | ||
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Also I feel this is needed If you join House Chezinu I will policy lynch you that is all | ||
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On June 17 2012 04:52 strongandbig wrote: What about self-declared allies of house chezinu? Like KB and Nisani? Also, AFAIK this application process is private, so how would you know that people have joined the Chezinu faction? They die They all die | ||
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FTFY Town don't want friends you idiot | ||
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Any objections? | ||
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None of the reasons make sense to me T_T | ||
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On June 17 2012 05:41 Acrofales wrote: So in actual fact, what you're doing is accepting HiroPro making anybody he likes "untouchable" for you, in return for limited immunity. Lol, are you a serial killer or wtf?! Drazerk: I oppose lynching Nisani. I want to lynch KB. And yeah I changed my mind KB is so much better than 201 | ||
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GG no RE | ||
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On June 17 2012 05:53 KharadBanar wrote: I still have a will on my own, thank you very much. If someone is acting really scummy but HiroPro is protecting him to the point where it seems unreasonable, I am not going to be convinced by him that I should drop my case. (Sorry HiroPro) Dumb Dumb Dumb Dumb Dumb | ||
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more on this idea never | ||
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On June 17 2012 06:28 HiroPro wrote: I am the Director of Funding THIS IS A ROBBERY EVERYONE ON THE GROUND NOW You will give me all the names of all the people inside your house If you don't comply with my demands I will murder one of your so called allies every hour. You have 3 hours to comply until I end up shooting you | ||
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On June 17 2012 07:21 Nisani201 wrote: Drazerk, I feel like you are trying to make it look like you are contributing and being outspoken by latching onto any bullshit you can find. Does anyone else agree with me? How do you not understand how I play yet? | ||
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I AM GOING TO DIE FROM THAT lol | ||
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why was the word possible used? ITS A CULT! | ||
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On June 17 2012 22:27 EchelonTee wrote: Oh btw, recruit me to your House, Hiro Pro. I doubt it's a cult; it's probably a mason circle that can invite anyone, scum neutral or town. I want in. SCUM seriously its a cult and its a really obvious one at that like how do you not see this? Read the last bastard game! | ||
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You basically just said its pointless in your post which makes no sense lol | ||
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On June 17 2012 22:33 EchelonTee wrote: no cults in the last game you liar. looks like Drazerk into the scummy list I said to read it I never mentioned cults | ||
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We might not know anything until we are too late so it is just not worth the risk to join | ||
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You must think of every possible scenario before you make any action in these type of games. The fact that even the smallest possibility of a cult existing is too much risk to have anyone join the house. | ||
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On June 17 2012 23:45 strongandbig wrote: However, house chezinu was not a cult. I don't see why you're so worried about this being a cult. Announcing their existence publicly would make no sense whatsoever, IMO. Actually it works out perfectly if the members that join don't know its a cult it would be very easy to get majority and win the game | ||
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On June 18 2012 01:02 Acrofales wrote: Stop working yourself into the pity role. You're scum and you know it. Maybe... who knows | ||
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Bastard game no point | ||
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Do you hate me that much? | ||
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On June 18 2012 02:07 EchelonTee wrote: I don't have that much experience with Drazerk. Read WaW2 or Holy roman mafia 2 it shows just how much I can brake a game if given the correct tools | ||
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Eventually | ||
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You guys suck lol | ||
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Thoughts? | ||
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On June 18 2012 05:39 FourFace wrote: Hiro did you think of this Chezinu thing before or after you got your role PM. Be honest, liar! Its too much effort to come up with after he got his role PM tbh | ||
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On June 18 2012 06:10 FourFace wrote: Now why would you say that you Village Idiot?? Well it would prove if he is a day vigi or not | ||
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On June 18 2012 06:12 FourFace wrote: We'll find that out soon enough .. at least pretend to be scared so we can roll out some cases Well I want to kill KB at the moment his filter will be my evidence / case. Also ET but its more of a "I dislike you" type of thing | ||
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I agree with Nisani... Just damn... | ||
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On June 18 2012 06:32 FourFace wrote: Something about Hiro bothers me. He said that he would've trolled around for a couple of days if he was scum, but that would've been his ticket to Lynchville wouldn't it? I troll if I am scum its a pretty good way to escape an early lynch and buy time for your allies / murder everyone | ||
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On June 18 2012 06:35 FourFace wrote: Why?! His intentions seem noble. Can you think of anything else that's incriminating him? People love LaL | ||
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On June 18 2012 06:45 talismania wrote: I am claiming dayvig - I will prove it by using my ability. Rest assured of that. All you guys can do is ensure that you're not on the receiving end of my shot - can you win the game while dead? Didn't think so. So post those cases, impressions, or solid game info. ____________ @Acrofales: I was not made king to my knowledge. I did not survive a night hit. Only third party can't win the game while dead Are you implying you're third party and think everyone else is? | ||
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On June 18 2012 06:47 Acrofales wrote: Stop trying to derail discussion. This is pointless hypothetical and IF you want to discuss it, save it for postgame. I'd rather hear what HiroPro and you have to say about the current game situation! I disagree I want to hear this out | ||
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On June 18 2012 06:50 talismania wrote: Then I suppose the third party players should be especially worried. I am not third party. I am town. Point taken though I worded that sloppily - it's more accurate to say that you can't contribute to your win condition when dead. Also not true see WaW2 for proof | ||
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On June 18 2012 06:52 KharadBanar wrote: I don't think a King claim would be in order right now, at least if he hasn't got some crazy power like being bulletproof. We probably have Assassins in this setup who are just waiting to find out who he is so they can kill him and win. How do we know that the king isn't a dictator who wants to murder us all and that the assassins are the good guys? | ||
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On June 18 2012 07:03 Acrofales wrote: I thought about that, but then my role pm doesn't make sense. Na it can still make sense | ||
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you're using evidence we know now to incriminate past beliefs which seems pretty questionable to me but i'll give you a break as my play style leads to myself being an easy band wagon the same way kenpachi is. Also with Talismania forcing everyone to make a case except himself its bad cases like this that need to be looked at and questioned as I just got a huge third party vibe from S+B who just wants to survive. | ||
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do you really want me gone so soon? | ||
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On June 18 2012 21:34 strongandbig wrote: The only new information we gained is that you are wrong about the cult thing. That's not at all the center point of my case. Trying to shut down discussion is like the main mafia agenda bro. You were trying to get people to stop talking about chezinu before we had any idea whether it was pro town or not. And seriously? You're saying you're like Kenpachi? Drazerk, you're not kenpachi. He gets away with posting trolling and content less one-liners because it's all he ever does and he doesn't give a fuck about the game most of the time. You are capable of being much more helpful than that. Plus, you actually care about the game. What I see from you this game is a pattern of trying to avoid being the subject of scrutiny. "I'm going to die soon" "I'm going on a tunnelling spree against this chezinu thing trololo" "I'm an easy bandwagon because I play like kenpachi" "Ignore Me!!!" If you really are town, then stop trying to play like Kenpachi. Your response to my case makes me think you are even scummier, with the "I'm an easy bandwagon like kenpachi" thing, but at least the post itself was more than one line and contained some actual reasoning. Post more like that, except not scummy. and as for your third party accusation, that also fits into the pattern of slipperiness. Just because in the last game there was a lot of third party, it makes "your case is bad, you must be third party" an easy thing to throw around. The fact that you're trying to switch focus from your alignment to mine does not make you look any better. You have a quote from me in your signature -Town fuck up. Scum do not. Scum WANT discussion. They are not going to be wishy washy they have their game plan worked out from the first hour and that is how they are going to play. I am going to die soon? - 5th party against me and a day vigi I have no intention of pleasing. People who ignore me burn or it you should know this by now. 1 line posts are perfectly fine and probably more of a town behaviour as it means quick irrational posting rather than carefully laid out plans. This is a bastard game I am going to throw out every possibility there is And yes I still think you are third party for submitted to tali's demands | ||
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On June 19 2012 00:02 Acrofales wrote: Really Drazerk. YOU are saying this of all people? Do you really want me to link to Holy Roman, with your infinite amount of senseless one-liners? Maybe you fucked up in there somewhere, but you managed to make yourself so inoccuous that you flew under the radar until it was basically too late. Your strategy was basically exactly the same that game as it has been so far this game... and you're using that strategy as an example of pro-town play?! The mind boggles. PS. I don't know what your town meta looks like... You was in a mason circle with me! | ||
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That is all | ||
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fair enough | ||
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ET DB FF BSC (KB) Third party S+B Maju 201 (KB) Null Acro Hiro Dec xsksc Hyaach | ||
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On June 19 2012 02:34 Acrofales wrote: Btw, you're playing increasingly to your Holy Roman meta. You really just threw out a bunch of names without actually reasoning about ANY of them. You playing into your Holy Roman meta = me thinking you're scum. You're gonna get no where from meta analysis so don't bother | ||
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If I am scum it helps me survive and become more pro town If I am third party it helps me survive and become more pro town | ||
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On June 19 2012 03:07 strongandbig wrote: What if your role is "keep target player alive" and you lead his lynch? What if you're a lyncher and you defend your target? For someone who keeps saying "we need to consider all the scenarios" you seem to have considered none of the scenarios. Read the last game - Keeping people alive fails the moment you die yourself As for killing a specific person I want to kill everyone so that is unlikely | ||
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Just want to point that out | ||
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On June 19 2012 03:14 Acrofales wrote: That you haven't read your role pm is about as true as that you had to sheep my vote in Holy Roman. I really dislike the way you're playing and you are definitely not helping town with it. ##unvote ##vote Drazerk You keep mentioning holy roman Read all my games Realize what meta is going to do for you | ||
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On June 19 2012 04:06 EchelonTee wrote: did anyone ever claim a shot? I don't see it No one claimed being hit so it would be weird to claim a shot | ||
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On June 19 2012 04:09 EchelonTee wrote: That's what I meant; I was asking if anyone had been claimed being hit. That's strange. I highly doubt there is 0 night killing power; I'm thinking vets or townies didn't want to claim shots for whatever reason. Whatever. In before poisoner or some other variation of that role? | ||
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On June 19 2012 04:09 talismania wrote: People who should I shoot: Drazerk strongandbig Nisani201 deconduo FourFace ? Why Dec? | ||
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On June 19 2012 04:11 EchelonTee wrote: This probably is a decision you should make on your own lol; this is a mafia game, there are scum who will try and manipulate you. You're pretty good at the game, make a judgement call -.- On the bright side we force a shit ton of reads from him | ||
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On June 19 2012 04:17 EchelonTee wrote: people on TL Mafia are too obsessed with pbpa analysis. I learned in my first game here that anyone with a high school education can fake pbpa analysis like hell. i think that's way worse than crutching on meta, lol. Its ok I hate it with a passion | ||
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maybe written for you was the wrong word. Tweaked and edited is probably a better phrase. Its something that I see scum doing usually when confused etc | ||
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On June 19 2012 04:35 HiroPro wrote: Are you scared of being lynched? Show me that you're town. There were no survivors in either of those games; your argument is trash. Not to mention that he hasn't called anyone scum, when he does do that when under pressure as scum. META CAN CHANGE | ||
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Just interested | ||
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Don't shoot me then it isn't worth it | ||
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You clearly have never seen me play town... I need to be killed before lylo if town want to win (unless I get mod confirmed or some shit like that) | ||
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On June 19 2012 05:07 KharadBanar wrote: This doesn't make sense. If town lynch scum instead of you, it doesn't even come to LYLO so it's irrelevant. I don't want to be lynched I want to be shot there is a difference | ||
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Lynch creates discussion forces people to take sides etc etc Shots are done for the luls | ||
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On June 19 2012 05:12 talismania wrote: So you would rather die for the lulz than be lynched and have discussion generated about it? I'd be lynched for being a troll / 1 lines how does that create discussion? | ||
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On June 19 2012 05:18 Nisani201 wrote: Why do you want me to claim? I have a crazy role, not alignment. I do have an opportunity for an "extra win" and an "extra loss," but you guys don't have to worry about those because they are pro-town objectives. You tell us now because I don't believe you for a second | ||
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On June 19 2012 05:20 Nisani201 wrote: How about you shut up because you haven't done anything productive all day. I have no idea why talis hasn't shot you already. looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool | ||
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On June 19 2012 05:26 EchelonTee wrote: DropBear is my secondary lynch preference. I like a DB lynch | ||
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On June 19 2012 05:28 P-body wrote: 446f206e6f742074727920746f2062656e64207468652073706f6f6e20972074686174277320696d706f737369626c652e20496e73746561642c206f6e6c792074727920746f207265616c697a6520746865207472757468 Hi everyone I contain the secret to everyone's win condition. To obtain every player must type in #Fistbump in the thread | ||
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On June 19 2012 05:31 HiroPro wrote: Hm, that's not what he said: "Do not try to bend the spoon � that's impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth" Don't ruin my fun >.> | ||
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On June 19 2012 05:38 talismania wrote: What other factions do you know about? You know I can think of a better way to find this information out... | ||
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On June 19 2012 05:39 Nisani201 wrote: Why do you keep asking me these questions? lol? | ||
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Why so scared of dying? | ||
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On June 19 2012 05:46 Nisani201 wrote: No I don't know about any other factions, and my role PM didn't have any information about monarchs or monarchist activist. Which makes you wonder... what is this mystical role? | ||
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On June 19 2012 05:49 Nisani201 wrote: I am actually wondering the same about you. Could you really be this bad? Or are you a jester? Am I rhyming? | ||
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On June 19 2012 05:49 Acrofales wrote: I can extra lose too. I will not go into any details. Now I want to shoot you... | ||
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On June 19 2012 05:56 talismania wrote: Can I have people's reads/opinions/impressions of strongandbig? I think he has a seperate win con to murder someone I think this is the same win con that 201 / Acro has | ||
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On June 19 2012 06:01 talismania wrote: So... does anyone else think deconduo was scarily accurate when he described this as an assassins + kingmaker setup? Right now reading between the lines it sounds like there's a bunch of people who can win with town (or with scum?) but get an extra bonus if they're the one to night kill the MA or King or something like that. Maybe extra lose if they accidentally kill the other or some other role. And this is where my current theory is coming in | ||
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On June 19 2012 06:22 Acrofales wrote: That was Talismania's. Mind putting it in your own words? I disagree with Talismania (and deconduo). I think it *might* be something similar, but the devil is in the details. I think you confused me | ||
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201 has to murder someone to not lose and has to keep someone else alive to win S+B = 201 | ||
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On June 19 2012 06:29 Acrofales wrote: I don't have to murder anybody to not lose. We shall see but I think S+B may be the perfect shot at the moment | ||
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On June 19 2012 06:33 Nisani201 wrote: You're wrong. Also is the last line supposed to be some sort of WBG=George W Bush-type conspiracy? its like year 1 maths... | ||
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On June 19 2012 07:00 deconduo wrote: Include the bit about the alignments please, they are important. Unless of course you want to claim 3rd party or scum HEY INCLUDE ME DO IT INCLUDE ME IT WILL BE AMAZING | ||
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I am town Drazerk is town | ||
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I disagree the first priority should be to promote discussion and find scum who cares if people think you are town | ||
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I am town talismania is a day vig | ||
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Drazerk is town Talismania is not town | ||
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On June 19 2012 07:12 talismania wrote: Strongandbig you were on there for no other reason than what I posted in my impressions list. I also wanted to see if anyone reacted but no one did (I had to force reactions out of people). You ARE a risky shot because if you're town then I'd be shooting a productive townie. Talk to me a bit about some of the other candidates that have come up for lynch discussion. Who do you think is scummy besides drazerk? Etc. Don't worry I'll publicly say who I'm going to shoot before I do it and give them time to respond. Europe will be asleep unless you choose in the next hour Just saying that now | ||
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On June 19 2012 07:15 deconduo wrote: I'm 99% sure Drazerk is town, there's no way a non-town would come out like that to try and get proven. If it comes back a lie it almost certainly means talis is town. If it comes back true, we lynch talis. You're aware I haven't read my role PM right? | ||
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On June 19 2012 07:18 talismania wrote: If that's the case then why the hell did it need to be in a specific format? You could have just picked the first post where I claimed to be day vig and done it. Or picked anyone's post for that matter. More information more power and what not | ||
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On June 19 2012 07:22 talismania wrote: Not really. If the goal was to find out that I was town, then pick the post where I said I was town. Now, if this is legit, and comes back lie, there are tons of possibilities. It's not like the hosts will say "oh there was only ONE lie" or anything like that. Just a stupid application of that power if that's how the power can be used. but is there a post where you just say you are town though? | ||
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On June 19 2012 07:27 talismania wrote: And that's exactly what happened. =/ SHOOT DEC HIS USE IS NO MORE! | ||
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On June 19 2012 07:29 Zephirdd wrote: wtf are you doing forumite, I had awesome flavor Pretty funny though | ||
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On June 19 2012 07:31 strongandbig wrote: Okay so. That came back as "false". I think Decon is town, since he was willing to use his power if Talismania had said what he said originally. So either: Talismania is town, Drazerk is not town, or both of those things. Unfortunately, neither of Drazerk and Talismania is really confirmed until the other one dies. You gotta admit I'd be insane to come forward and do that if I had read my role PM and it said scum | ||
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On June 19 2012 07:32 Acrofales wrote: That was the dumbest use of a really awesome power I ever saw. We learned exactly nothing there, because I believe Talismania is town. Which means we are all town? | ||
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On June 19 2012 07:34 strongandbig wrote: Seriously man, all gaming aside - you earned a lot of respect from me for your play in holy roman mafia, but if you really did not read your role PM and proceeded to play most of a cycle of this game, that respect is all gone. To me that's the ultimate statement of "I don't give a fuck about this game, I just like spamming shit and annoying people on the internet." I found it to be an interesting way to play the game knowing you was forced into one specific way of playing and you knew the exact same information as town did meaning if you checked later and found out you was scum you was in a brilliant position as you could never scum slip. Also I wanted to gauge peoples reactions from such a tactic and see if it netted any results. It was just something I wanted to test out regardless and this game gave the perfect chance to do so | ||
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On June 19 2012 07:35 talismania wrote: Why did you write the passage the way you did? You could have written, Deconduo is town Drazerk is town Talismania is town. But instead you chose to put "talismania is not town" Why? I just copied what he gave me | ||
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On June 19 2012 07:39 Acrofales wrote: No. Because it would tell you your scumbuddies and Talismania would NOT be among them, therefore with that wording you would be completely safe. That logic makes no sense | ||
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On June 19 2012 07:58 talismania wrote: Relax as much as I hate to say it I don't think I'm going to shoot you. God if you're scum... I should probably check the player's time zones | ||
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On June 19 2012 07:59 Acrofales wrote: So for your test of Talismania being scum, you use Drazerk?! Why not wait for someone who you actually have some conviction of being town to come on? Drazerk has self-proclaimed MULTIPLE times in the thread to not even have read his own role pm. This was a BAD use of that power and you SHOULD have thought it through more. Now back to hunting scum. At least I agree that if Drazerk knew he was scum, he would not have posted the first proposal for lie detecting, so at least we know that Drazerk is either town and messing with us, or has, in actual fact, not read his role pm. I read it a couple of pages back I am town | ||
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On June 19 2012 08:06 talismania wrote: Hmm I just realized that drazerk didn't check his pm until after the "objection" was made. So when he made his all three are town passage he didn't know his own alignment. God that would be sick if he did roll scum. I could of still probably taken dec down with me | ||
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On June 19 2012 08:09 Acrofales wrote: EBWOP: I mean with regards to Drazerk. Everybody else's filter from N0 and D1 is still completely valid. Just Drazerk's says nothing about his alignment. Now imagine that in the power of a scum player. | ||
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On June 19 2012 08:23 talismania wrote: All the people I want to shoot aren't online :-( Its 2 am in europe | ||
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On June 19 2012 08:28 xsksc wrote: There's way more Europeans in the last page than there is Americans. Me and acro spam a lot | ||
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What if we are all town? | ||
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On June 19 2012 08:46 strongandbig wrote: I don't even know why you bother talking about "meta" at all, with the ridiculous amount you post it's basically impossible to find any earlier games from you through the TL search. TLX, Newbie 4, RTM, Arkham asylum, Ressurection, steamship, WaW2, Holy roman, Aperture, TLXIV and probably some more I am forgetting | ||
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He is probably typing or getting lost in really old games | ||
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On June 19 2012 09:19 talismania wrote: Ok so. MajuGarzett wanted FourFace dead. FourFace is not his partner. HiroPro wanted MajuGarzett dead. HiroPro is not his partner. Acrofales I think also wanted MajuGarzett dead. Acrofales is not his partner. ET wanted MajuGarzett dead. ET is not his partner. Strongandbig, when given a last-minute choice between MajuGarzett and KB, chose Maju. Strongandbig probably not his partner. Anything else I miss? Bussing your team mate is amazing and everyone should do it always | ||
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On June 19 2012 20:16 DropBear wrote: Some of this is so illogical it hurts my brain and much of it is factually incorrect. I don't actually know how to respond to this other than that I am ignoring you from now on. When in doubt ignore everything and spam the thread? | ||
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On June 19 2012 20:28 DropBear wrote: I don't get what this means? This is a very strange statement. Are you trying to damage my credibility good sir? Given up already? I would also like to state that xsksc is making more sense than any of you and he is the last person I would vote to lynch at this point in time. Read im a cop you idiot mafia | ||
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On June 19 2012 21:38 strongandbig wrote: Oh and Drazerk you may have everyone else fooled, but not me! You're from the UK so I'll put it this way: my chthonic deities, my vast nibbling niebelung will nibble on you yet! lol *reading what I missed* | ||
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Its 92% chance of being a fake claim 8% chance oh well lets have 201 be the last person to vote | ||
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Possibility of two birds with one stone? | ||
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On June 20 2012 03:09 Acrofales wrote: Fairly certain that what happened is the vote was a completely bogus mechanic that had us running around in circles. It also makes it DOUBLE CONFIRMED that DropBear's roleclaim was completely bogus: if there's no lynch, then there's also no vengeful townie mechanic. Bastard game don't be too sure | ||
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On June 20 2012 04:20 Acrofales wrote: Votecount looks normal. It means that either there was no doublevote/politician shenanigans, or those mechanics are hidden. Given this, I think the hypothesis that there was a king who got to choose the lynch is the most likely one atm. Something is wrong with 4F's theory that the king dies: there is so much redundant information in the AMA's role pm. He didn't need to be told that any king could only be named once if the king got murdered at the end of the day. Of everybody, I want DropBear to die most. Overall he looks incredibly scummy and the chance of his roleclaim being a blatant lie on top of that is just too much and he must die. The problem I have with Nisani is still mainly his roleclaim. I'm not sure that's enough to merit shooting tonight. No harm in putting him up for lynch tomorrow, though: he's still scummier than everybody else, including the trio of lurk (hyaach, biosc and xsksc). Going to watch the football match now. Drazerk: England is going to lose against the Ukraine, lol. Everyone in England hates the English football team. I was rooting for Ireland >.> | ||
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On June 20 2012 06:24 FourFace wrote: 1. the ability to frame is gone.. n0 only. 2. I read the OP and The following roles may or may not be present in the game; Detective, Medic, Mafia Goon, so I figured that only these are in the game. my bad. The scum cop was obviously not just a goon. Yeah that was stupid. 3. there is no indication for it yet. You believed the mods? looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool | ||
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On June 20 2012 06:43 talismania wrote: Drazerk you've been too quiet recently. What are your thoughts? FourFace I do not get to know who the king is. Playing with Dota I have nothing to input on any of this so I don't really want to disturb you guys | ||
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On June 20 2012 07:51 xsksc wrote: ♥ You guys could learn from Zephirdd's sig ♥ ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ I AM CAPTAIN PLANET! NOW I KILL ALL SCUM! | ||
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On June 20 2012 14:27 talismania wrote: DropBear, who is Maju's partner? Why? Other reads? _____________ Same questions at hyaach, BioSC, and Drazerk. In order of likeliness DB 201 BSC Who ever replaced FF S+B xskcd Hyaach Also I am town and do not have a name so I'm going to debunk that theory | ||
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On June 20 2012 18:13 Acrofales wrote: Dammit Drazerk, why would you go and say you're town. I was going to make a case on you for posting at the deadline, but you've just completely debunked it. Why do you think xkcd comes before Hyaach and why do both come after SnB? I dislike his soft claim that is basically it S+B and hyaach are just null reads at this point | ||
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On June 20 2012 18:28 Acrofales wrote: Well, mainly because it doesn't, because of the retarded way that sentence was phrased (still pisses me off). The post with the full logical proof is somewhere in my filter. Fine it leads to the possibility of a confirmed town the most dangerous thing scum have to deal with and most refuse to deal with. | ||
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Also there are VTs in this game. | ||
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I still think he is scum because of his lurking / Chezinu stance but I think he is more of a 3rd/4th priority at the moment | ||
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On June 20 2012 20:55 ghost_403 wrote: Alright, first order of business is to blame everything on the guy before me. Second order is to tell you to ignore everything he said. Gimme a bit to figure out what's actually going on in the game. brb I think this is going to be the start of a long and beautiful relationship Unless you're scum in which case I am going to have to kill you | ||
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And why me | ||
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Also I like the idea of a mass role claim considering basically everyone has claimed at this point anyhow | ||
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On June 21 2012 04:04 DropBear wrote: Why would mafia shoot Acrofales? He's been blindly tunnelling a townie all game and he just shot a detective. Sounds like the perfect person to keep alive. Possibly because he is the only person playing pro town But if he survives another day I kill him because he shouldn't be left alive at that stage. | ||
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On June 21 2012 04:16 Nisani201 wrote: Hi everyone! How about this: I wont talk today unless you all agree not to lynch me? We dont take demands from terrorists | ||
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On June 21 2012 04:48 Acrofales wrote: I'm not the only one playing pro-town. Give Tali and ET some credit here. Gonna go over ET's filter in a minute. Could be that ghost_403 shot him.. he was the only one to be suspicious of 4F. You're the only one I never had any doubt of (And to be fair my theory that you had to kill someone was almost right) I also doubt it was ghost to be honest he wouldn't of had any time to think things through and taking advice from someone who was banned while playing is kind of....... | ||
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Also acro you misspelled his name in your vote | ||
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On June 21 2012 06:10 DropBear wrote: This is true, you did. I have never before seen a vigilante who didn't shoot the person they thought most likely to be mafia. You say yourself you couldn't find a scum motive for what he was saying. I actually don't understand how anyone who was town aligned could be this colossally illogical. You must of missed that period of time where all the vigilantes shot lurkers instead of scum targets or people who was trolling. | ||
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On June 21 2012 06:20 DropBear wrote: The person who pushed it the hardest just shot a detective and it's being shrugged off. See S+B's sig for mine and probably everyone elses thoughts on that | ||
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On June 21 2012 14:29 HiroPro wrote: lol, 2 cops in a 15-man setup. We have a liar, ladies and gentleman. Read his filter, read my case, and then laugh at his claim. We're lynching him tomorrow. This is a bastard game - set up and balance don't come into it | ||
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On June 21 2012 14:35 HiroPro wrote: That game had 6 survivors and 2 serial killers. Town was a minority of 7 people. It is not comparable. And your behavior has already shown that you are scum. Your claim is just icing on the cake. Also DTs were super nerfed and it was very lucky I worked out Cheese's role from the check result | ||
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On June 21 2012 15:12 xsksc wrote: DB, thoughts on me/Hiro's case? Am I the only one that sees my claim as retarded as hell for scum?o.o As I recently just played a scum detective... its over powered and allowed me to win the game single handedly but only because acro gave me the chance | ||
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On June 21 2012 22:12 Acrofales wrote: Drazerk, I thought you had claimed VT, but in actual fact you haven't. Claim now. I had and I did I just don't make a big song and dance about my role claims | ||
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The two of us win if either of us is alive at the end of this game This should be a very easy claim to check out... | ||
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On top of that it will auto confirm the other player as town limiting our search for targets and forcing scum to shoot that target taking the hits of townies rather than survivors. Basically there is nothing to lose from killing one of you and everything to lose by keeping you both alive. | ||
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On June 22 2012 01:43 HiroPro wrote: Yea bro, I was hoping I could be confirmed survivor, but I'm not We could always shoot your bro to make you one | ||
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I do it all the time... | ||
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B) Its called a gambit its exactly that - A gambit | ||
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If you actually want town to win you will have to admit we need to rule out the possibility of you pulling a pretty huge gamble to blind side us. Seriously if you're town or town aligned you should never be afraid of death especially when your win condition doesn't even need you alive. And I'm not even saying you have to be todays lynch like acro I think your a third priority but you must die at some point. | ||
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On June 22 2012 02:53 talismania wrote: One small point, if we do lynch (hell if we even have the power to lynch) DropBear at some point, one of the strongandbig/hiropro should be the last vote on him. If he's telling the truth I don't want to accidentally lose two town players and be in a weird situation where the third parties get to decide which team wins. I love this idea tali ♥ | ||
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On June 22 2012 05:03 Acrofales wrote: Nisani, lets put it this way: I am completely uninterested in helping you avoid your second loss condition: your extra win and your extra loss probably cancel eachother out. You've claimed you win with town, and I am inclined to believe the M.A. wins with town (no merit to you, just your role). That means we should lynch xsksksks, DropBear, Drazerk, or Hyaach (in order of preference) today. I still want to murder ghost | ||
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No town KP only scum KP T_T | ||
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On June 22 2012 05:40 talismania wrote: So does dropbear's roleclaim make any sense given this game setup? Is there really a vengeful townie in a game where plurality lynch might not ever happen? So torn on who the last scum is. Its worth the risk because at worst we lose 1 town for 1 survivor which confirms another survivor | ||
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I am now going back to bed so I can slip into a coma | ||
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On June 23 2012 03:05 HiroPro wrote: Lolololol, MA was a town role. No it was a pretty big scum role even if he did win with town | ||
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On June 23 2012 03:13 Acrofales wrote: Also, DB was the only guy who might have been a vanilla townie posing as something else. Drazerk is confirmed town! Gratz Drazerk! Well then I guess this means I get to be slightly more insane with my theories... | ||
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As for dec you have to remember he came up with the stupid check so he might of had a bigger plan involved with the first one that involved it coming out true ( hell he could be a GF in which case I'd do that every time in every game) | ||
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On June 23 2012 03:37 Acrofales wrote: Have you actually read 4F's posts? There is nothing townie about them. You said the same thing about mine | ||
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On June 23 2012 04:05 Acrofales wrote: Town wins. We have Drazerk. I will derp. I will fail I will piss every one off But some how some way I will end up winning the game in Lylo | ||
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On June 23 2012 05:40 Acrofales wrote: Are we notified if it's mylo or lylo? It would make the game too easy so I doubt it | ||
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On June 23 2012 07:16 talismania wrote: hyaach claimed town roleblocker, not 3P acrofales is too much of a stretch. He asked me to shoot maju and dropbear. And he's been incredibly protown. And everything He just played a game where scum won through bussing its not too hard to imagine him doing it... | ||
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On June 23 2012 08:13 strongandbig wrote: Wait I just thought of the funniest fucking thing. If I'm right Forumite is a comedy genius. Do tell... | ||
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On June 23 2012 08:27 strongandbig wrote: Actually I'm probably wrong, on more thought. It wouldn't make sense. Nevermind. Yes but this is the good thing about mafia Nothing is too crazy or impossible | ||
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On June 23 2012 08:40 talismania wrote: drazerk is in need of plot twists apparently. too boring for him at the moment I want planar dragon | ||
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On June 24 2012 02:44 strongandbig wrote: Also Drazerk spent a lot more time than anyone else trying to figure out who was third party on N0, rather than trying to figure out who was scum. Thats my thing... Look at any other game I really don't bother with scum that much its third party that excites me Also if you really want to ##I had fun | ||
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On June 24 2012 04:33 talismania wrote: You did that before you claimed to have seen your PM, and you said that I should only shoot you if I had more than one shot. Fair point but if he wants to use analysis from that day ill use that day as my defence | ||
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On June 24 2012 04:36 Acrofales wrote: While we wait for Hyaach and xksksks to check in. Drazerk, do you claim you're a TOWN vanilla townie? Also: lol, the French playing like shit. VIVA ESPAÑA!!! I am town aligned | ||
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On June 24 2012 07:57 HiroPro wrote: To stay alive, I needed to show that I wasn't anti-town. Now that I've established that, there's no reason for me to help town. We all ok policy lynching Hiro and S+B even if it loses us the game? | ||
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On June 24 2012 08:35 strongandbig wrote: Scum feel like conceding? If i have learnt one thing over the years it is that people who say this are normally scum | ||
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On June 24 2012 09:06 strongandbig wrote: Way to comment on the relevant issues and questions confronting the town, bro. I find it relevant and whether you and Hiro pulled the biggest gambit I have every seen is still a huge question confronting the town. | ||
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There is very little thought process behind any of this which is why I'd rather discuss Hiro / S+B | ||
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What if S+B is linked to Hiro who is actually a survivor but S+B himself is also Maju's scum partner Its not out of the realm of possibilities and it reinforces the whole bastard theme much better (It could also be visa versa but we can deal with it once the main trio are dead) | ||
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On June 25 2012 04:23 strongandbig wrote: You also seem pretty sure that the game will continue after we kill off Maju's scumbuddy. I never play mafia with the expectations of the game ending unless its an open set up as it allows for come backs and what not Also Ghost I claim that role | ||
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S+B wants to stay alive the most so I want to kill him first so... ##vote strongandbig If scum was hanging on their KP last night they are basically forced to do it again anyway so it shouldn't matter that much delaying the sacrificial lambs | ||
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Basically the optimal way to play is to claim in post 1. Get yourself lynched and let your partner afk while town and scum play out the game. | ||
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If you give me KP that will happen every time I'm not even going to question it considering how easy it is to fake being a vigilante | ||
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On June 25 2012 22:03 strongandbig wrote: This is super fishy. Why would scum hold their KP again tonight? because if they shoot it ruins the Wifom 3 they need to abuse tomorrow if they want to survive | ||
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Sometimes its better to die for the good of the town. This is what you would be doing. Being alive is sadly not part of your win condition nor is it optimal play. | ||
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On June 26 2012 01:03 HiroPro wrote: Do you just pretend to not read anything or is this how you actually play the game? Did you read anything that happened before you replaced in? "Some player may check out wrong on alignment checks, but if so, they will be read the same during the whole game." Hmmmmmmmm Lol, we're not a second town team. If town loses, w/e, it's their own fault for not playing well. The analogy still holds | ||
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I TOTALLY CALLED IT | ||
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On June 26 2012 05:31 Acrofales wrote: I know that. Those aren't roles, though. I don't buy the theory. I was balrog in aperture | ||
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On June 26 2012 19:02 xsksc wrote: It's awesome that you voted me and then lost complete interest in the game, then when your name pops up you resurface 9 minutes later. ._. MAGIC! | ||
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On June 27 2012 03:24 Acrofales wrote: What information will it create? If he's scum? Great. If he's town, what information do we get? Well we would know if he was a miller / framed so yeah... | ||
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If its a pub picking anything but Lycan/Ursa/BS is a pretty much loss you should know this | ||
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On June 27 2012 07:01 Acrofales wrote: So now that you've seen it, why don't you grace us with your opinion. Now that Tali's dead it's up to us to clear this game... and I'm not even sure you're town. Honestly I'd rather leave dec alone for now considering we have much bigger threats to deal with in the shape of Hyaach / Xboxlivearcade / Hiro and S+B we have 1 lynch before theoretical lylo so I'd rather get rid of someone who we have been messing around with for days now. Also their spat was a spat I would do as scum not as town so yeah I feel less good about them since that. | ||
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On June 27 2012 16:28 Acrofales wrote: Okay, I missed the reasoning in this last night. How does this even work. It is easier to look townie as scum than as town? Look at your own filter then look at mine the people you are arguably calling most likely to be town both are complete death traps (mainly mine but yours also sucks). Then look at my filter from holy roman and the skype logs (Totally directed at hassy) my play was arguable much much better ( All though this has to do with the fact I am a good scum player and a god awful town / third party player ) Townies make mistakes and generally aren't useful... scum have all game to make their gambit get into an awesome position and never leave it. | ||
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And yeah Hyaach isn't escaping I just don't believe a good scum should ever make a mistake | ||
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