Bastard Mafia 2 - Page 99

On June 27 2012 03:10 strongandbig wrote:
Acro if xkcd and Hyaach are both town then why would xkcd's check on Hyaach be red?

Acrofales for traitor anyone?

##vote: hyaach

On June 27 2012 03:17 strongandbig wrote:
He would have been a reasonable hit target that night there was no kill.

And after that he started being all "trololol let's stop trying to lynch one of the obvious scum here and kill a third party instead!"

Like look at his switch from me to ghost, he just wanted to kill any third party, he didn't actually care about finding scum. He didn't even bother to make cases.

On June 27 2012 03:21 Drazerk wrote:
I say we just lynch Hyaach purely because of the amount of information it will create

On June 27 2012 03:27 deconduo wrote:
Acro has been super scummy the last couple of days. Especially with the last minute switch to ghost, and now wanting to go after SnB. It feels like someone trying to lynch all the 3rd party. We haven't even cleared him of being scum, and we definitely haven't cleared him of being 3rd party.

On June 27 2012 03:24 Acrofales wrote:

What information will it create? If he's scum? Great. If he's town, what information do we get?

On June 27 2012 03:28 Acrofales wrote:

I don't want to go after SnB. I want to go after you.

On June 27 2012 03:30 deconduo wrote:


Nice OMGUS, great to help your case along. So far you are doing a fantastic job of getting everyone to not lynch you. :D

On June 27 2012 03:00 Acrofales wrote:
Okay. Wacky idea. What if deconduo is Maju's partner. We all completely let him off the hook for the whole lie detector thing, but what if Maju checked Tali on N0 and it came back "weird" rather than "vigilante". If that is the case, then the whole lie detector part suddenly makes sense from a scum point of view.

Think of it:
Maju checks Tali and he gets back "weird"
Tali claims daytime vigi
Deconduo doesn't believe the claim at ALL, because he thinks this would've given back vigi on the check, so concludes that Tali is lying. He tells Tali to say this:

He plans for this to come back false, because he *knows* Tali is not a dayvig (and he's also not afraid of Tali's shot). However, he needs the "Deconduo is town" blurb in there to make himself "confirmed town". Because Tali is not a dayvig and deconduo won't get shot, this could also get the pressure off his scumbuddy Maju, who was in danger of lynching, if not shooting. When Tali flips town, but not dayvig, he is cleared as confirmed scum and goes into hiding.

What actually happened was possibly even better (although his scumbuddy died): Tali reacted in a really townie manner and Drazerk jumped into the fray. Deconduo being quick on his feet joggled the sentence round a bit:

Tali IS town, so this sentence is false, but because nobody believes deconduo would pull such a stunt as scum, he's off the hook.

This lie detector deal made me completely dismiss all my suspicions of deconduo, but I just can't help thinking that OTHER than that lie detector thing he has been horrid.

Hyaach played townie, and then went into lurker mode, but his spat with xsksc seems more like a town vs. town spat. xsksc played scummy, and then when the pressure was on reacted in a townie manner to it. When I can't find a clear scum motive for actions, I have to default to town. And one thing I absolutely cannot fathom is why either Hyaach or xsksc would withhold the NK: the pressure was very clearly on them and withholding the NK would only confirm to us that scum was hiding in Ghost/xsksc/Hyaach. That gives them a very finite window of opportunity and all NKs help.

However, if deconduo is scum, then withholding the NK makes sense: it allows him to get all those 3 killed, and by the time they're dead, he can win the game.

I invite everybody to look at deconduo's filter. It is scummy as hell. It goes from scummy (including a Majuju softdefense) into lie detector into hardcore lurker.

And yes, I know I am introducing someone into the equation AGAIN. I just don't feel the xsksc or Hyaach lynches anymore.