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Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
June 26 2012 09:59 GMT
#1921
I would be happy to roleblock you xskc.
Thailand is my new obsession
xsksc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1044 Posts
June 26 2012 10:00 GMT
#1922
On June 26 2012 18:58 Hyaach wrote:
I actually thought the game was done when i cast my vote on xsksc. (have not caught up on thread)

If you didnt get my point. xsksc was a bigger suspect than ghost.
Him getting a mislynch on town yesterday would result in an 3v1v3 situation after tonight
Which would place all his winning chance on convincing 3rd party to vote with him.

But somehow the lynch got shifted and got a 3rd party lynched instead. But bear in mind he was okay with any 3rd party but at the same time trying to get me lynched to get into his favorable situation. That didn't happen so this means we win tomorrow when we lynch him or by some mechanics he have 2 KP tonight.

Do you not realise that if you flipped town I would be 100% dead?
If i got you lynched, what the fuck kind of favourable position is that if I'm scum?
Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
June 26 2012 10:02 GMT
#1923
Him getting a mislynch on town yesterday would result in an 3v1v3 situation after tonight
Which would place all his winning chance on convincing 3rd party to vote with him.


Thailand is my new obsession
xsksc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1044 Posts
June 26 2012 10:02 GMT
#1924
It's awesome that you voted me and then lost complete interest in the game, then when your name pops up you resurface 9 minutes later. ._.
Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
June 26 2012 10:04 GMT
#1925
its 6pm here right now. Time when most asian get off work and return home from school.
by the way i already sent in my roleblock this morning when i realize you were not lynched. Mod could be witness if he wants to but i doubt he will
Thailand is my new obsession
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 26 2012 10:06 GMT
#1926
On June 26 2012 19:02 xsksc wrote:
It's awesome that you voted me and then lost complete interest in the game, then when your name pops up you resurface 9 minutes later. ._.


MAGIC!
xsksc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1044 Posts
June 26 2012 10:08 GMT
#1927
On June 26 2012 19:06 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2012 19:02 xsksc wrote:
It's awesome that you voted me and then lost complete interest in the game, then when your name pops up you resurface 9 minutes later. ._.


MAGIC!

INDEED!

Hyaach, why is putting my life in the hands of 3rd party a "favourable" position for scum?
xsksc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1044 Posts
June 26 2012 10:09 GMT
#1928
Hiro/SnB have been helping town, why should they switch to the scum?
Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
June 26 2012 10:12 GMT
#1929
Can you get to any other more favorable position give the situation you've dug for yourself?

No.
Thailand is my new obsession
Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
June 26 2012 10:19 GMT
#1930
if towns do want, you can lynch me tomorrow and get xsksc next day.

If we are still confident that SnB and Hiro will help us after yesterday.
Thailand is my new obsession
xsksc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1044 Posts
June 26 2012 10:20 GMT
#1931
On June 26 2012 19:12 Hyaach wrote:
Can you get to any other more favorable position give the situation you've dug for yourself?

No.

You've lost when I flip so I don't even know why I'm bothering to communicate with you.
If i wanted to get to this.....favourable situation... why didn't I shoot?
xsksc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1044 Posts
June 26 2012 10:22 GMT
#1932
SnB and hiro have been helping town for ages, the only reason they'd u-turn on that is to spite us or if they lied about their role.
Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
June 26 2012 10:25 GMT
#1933
On June 26 2012 16:42 xsksc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2012 16:03 Acrofales wrote:
On June 26 2012 05:47 strongandbig wrote:
At this point you've crossed the line into willful ignorance.

Lets just agree to disagree. I don't think you're right and I think it is a really fucked up reason to think someone's scummy. It's speculation about the mindset of the mod when he made the game.

There's plenty of other reasons to suspect xsksc. I don't like Hyaach's absense at all either.

xsksc: other than the red check, what makes Hyaach scum?
Hyaach: what makes xsksc scum?

Gogogo!

A mod told me he's red, and he's a Lannister. Other than that -

Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 19:02 Hyaach wrote:
I RBed ghost last night
I'm not scum. A scum xsksc wouldn't kill ghost either.
Scum win-con is when scum outnumbers town. Third parties doesn't count.
Why kill ghost then?
He could get a mislynch on me today, kill someone tonight and try to get a plurality lynch tomorrow.
But all these would have been been even faster accomplished had he killed someone last night.
I don't know.

This has been his only post since I claimed the anti-town result on him, I believe. That in itself is suspicious. He either doesn't give a shit, or he's given up.
He doesn't seem to have thought it through - if I mislynched him there and he flipped town, I am instantly dead the next day, so if I wanted to win the game, why would I claim the anti-town result? I have locked myself into Hyaachs fate by doing that, at the best I'll get a 1 for 1 exchange, which totally sucks for scum, especially considering there was no night kill.



I love how you quote my posts and forget what i write in them very soon after.
That's what I can't explain.

Using your own logic against you. If I am scum as you claim. why didn't i shoot yesterday night?
Thailand is my new obsession
xsksc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1044 Posts
June 26 2012 11:15 GMT
#1934
On June 26 2012 19:25 Hyaach wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2012 16:42 xsksc wrote:
On June 26 2012 16:03 Acrofales wrote:
On June 26 2012 05:47 strongandbig wrote:
At this point you've crossed the line into willful ignorance.

Lets just agree to disagree. I don't think you're right and I think it is a really fucked up reason to think someone's scummy. It's speculation about the mindset of the mod when he made the game.

There's plenty of other reasons to suspect xsksc. I don't like Hyaach's absense at all either.

xsksc: other than the red check, what makes Hyaach scum?
Hyaach: what makes xsksc scum?

Gogogo!

A mod told me he's red, and he's a Lannister. Other than that -

On June 24 2012 19:02 Hyaach wrote:
I RBed ghost last night
I'm not scum. A scum xsksc wouldn't kill ghost either.
Scum win-con is when scum outnumbers town. Third parties doesn't count.
Why kill ghost then?
He could get a mislynch on me today, kill someone tonight and try to get a plurality lynch tomorrow.
But all these would have been been even faster accomplished had he killed someone last night.
I don't know.

This has been his only post since I claimed the anti-town result on him, I believe. That in itself is suspicious. He either doesn't give a shit, or he's given up.
He doesn't seem to have thought it through - if I mislynched him there and he flipped town, I am instantly dead the next day, so if I wanted to win the game, why would I claim the anti-town result? I have locked myself into Hyaachs fate by doing that, at the best I'll get a 1 for 1 exchange, which totally sucks for scum, especially considering there was no night kill.



I love how you quote my posts and forget what i write in them very soon after.
That's what I can't explain.

Using your own logic against you. If I am scum as you claim. why didn't i shoot yesterday night?

Buy an extra day with hold KP/RB+lynch ghost, and cause mass WIFOM. Better than no explanation at all.

I actually thought the game was done when i cast my vote on xsksc. (have not caught up on thread)

Holy shit dude... you left the thread for 48 hours because you thought it was over? Really? Bullshit. There was plenty of discussion and stuff to talk about...
If the voting had started to go on you, I have no doubt you woulda popped up asap, like you did just now when your name was mentioned.
Last post 2days ago was at 19:02
On June 24 2012 19:02 Hyaach wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I RBed ghost last night
I'm not scum. A scum xsksc wouldn't kill ghost either.
Scum win-con is when scum outnumbers town. Third parties doesn't count.
Why kill ghost then?
He could get a mislynch on me today, kill someone tonight and try to get a plurality lynch tomorrow.
But all these would have been been even faster accomplished had he killed someone last night.
I don't know.

Acro and myself both mention you between 18:49 and 18:52, 2 days later.
On June 26 2012 18:49 Acrofales wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I had a great plan involving creating information asymmetry between xsksc and Hyaach by having them flip coins on their actions and encrypting the results of the coinflip, but I realized it was a lot of work for no gain whatsoever. We should just have Hyaach roleblock xsksc and be done with it.

Pros: if Hyaach is scum and wants to keep incriminating xsksc, he will hold his shot.
Cons: if xsksc is town we miss out on a DT check.

I think the pros outweigh the cons in this situation.

You re-surface 9 minutes after you are mentioned, after 48 hours of saying absolutely nothing.
On June 26 2012 18:58 Hyaach wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I actually thought the game was done when i cast my vote on xsksc. (have not caught up on thread)

If you didnt get my point. xsksc was a bigger suspect than ghost.
Him getting a mislynch on town yesterday would result in an 3v1v3 situation after tonight
Which would place all his winning chance on convincing 3rd party to vote with him.

But somehow the lynch got shifted and got a 3rd party lynched instead. But bear in mind he was okay with any 3rd party but at the same time trying to get me lynched to get into his favorable situation. That didn't happen so this means we win tomorrow when we lynch him or by some mechanics he have 2 KP tonight.


strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 26 2012 11:22 GMT
#1935
On June 26 2012 16:03 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2012 05:47 strongandbig wrote:
At this point you've crossed the line into willful ignorance.

Lets just agree to disagree. I don't think you're right and I think it is a really fucked up reason to think someone's scummy. It's speculation about the mindset of the mod when he made the game.

There's plenty of other reasons to suspect xsksc. I don't like Hyaach's absense at all either.

xsksc: other than the red check, what makes Hyaach scum?
Hyaach: what makes xsksc scum?

Gogogo!


Sorry, that came across as harsher than I intended. I just got really tired of having to explain the same thing over and over again yesterday.

Of course we shouldn't find xk to be scum just based on the role name thing, since this is a bastard game and it's entirely possible that his name is the only one that doesn't fit the pattern just to troll us.

I just think that given we find him to be potential scum, it's a useful piece of info, especially since it turned out to be correct that ghost was faking a role name.

Anyway we should 100% for sure by lynching either xk or Hyaach tomorrow, and hopefully no one will be trying to distract us again with other lynches.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
xsksc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1044 Posts
June 26 2012 11:47 GMT
#1936
If Hyaach is the only scum left in the game, we've pretty much won -
He's RBing me tonight so he has to hold his KP again if he wants me to hang, so asuming you guys lynch me tomorow, we should be left with

Hyaach - confirmed scum by my flip.
HiroPro
strongandbig


talismania
Acrofales
Drazerk
deconduo


We'll lose one townie the night after, leaving it at a 3v1v2. I see no reason for the 3rd parties to side with Hyaach there, it would just prolong their win, but seeing as this is the case :
5. In the event of a tie the person with the most votes first wins (or loses).
you guys should get votes on Hyaach as quickly as possible, to be safe.
Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
June 26 2012 11:53 GMT
#1937
if i were scum, i would not hold KP. all attention was on you the day before . It was almost decided that you were to go before me. Why would I held KP and delay my win? I killed last night, lynch you today kill today tonight, that's 3 town gone. 2v1v3 ? really I would delay myself my win that much?

I'm not checking the WIFOM central yesterday but i'm pretty sure I got called out yesterday too and magic did not happen then. Why? because I was so sure of your lynch yesterday. Hell i just checked timing yesterday and before i slept. you still had 6 votes on you.
If time matters so much, check the timings. 1 hour apart. yes time when i'm actually free.
Thailand is my new obsession
Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
June 26 2012 11:59 GMT
#1938
EBWOP I kill last night, lynch you today and kill again tonight. that's 3 town gone.
Thailand is my new obsession
Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
June 26 2012 11:59 GMT
#1939
If anything you are the one who is enjoying the WIFOM.
Thailand is my new obsession
xsksc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1044 Posts
June 26 2012 12:07 GMT
#1940
Lol, I don't even know why I'm bothering to argue with scum anymore. It doesn't matter what I convince town of at this point, can't you see? I die tomorow because you are obviously going to RB/withhold KP so that I die, and then my flip confirms you as scum. CAN'T WAIT!
3rd party are not going to side with you the next day, because they win faster with town.
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