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HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 22 2012 18:16 GMT
#1601
I'll do whatever that both means s&b or I stay alive and makes the game end sooner. And I'd rather not take the risk that one of us gets lynched, then the other one night killed.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18356 Posts
June 22 2012 18:16 GMT
#1602
On June 23 2012 03:12 talismania wrote:
does RB block night kill? I would think it would just block the bulletproof.

Also, do you really think maju was bussing when he posted his case on fourface? Was he just being clever, hoping that the case would never build any momentum?

Third party people: will you help us if the last scum claims? It will end the game much more quickly and you still get to win :-) :-) :-)


Mods obliged us with an answer

On June 22 2012 05:25 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 01:39 Acrofales wrote:
Hypothetical situation: if there is a roleblocker, can scum KP be roleblocked?


Only if said scum does not have/does not use another action that night. In essence, a roleblocker stops One ability, where "Role" ability takes priority over "Faction" ability.

Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 22 2012 18:17 GMT
#1603
On June 23 2012 03:13 Acrofales wrote:
Also, DB was the only guy who might have been a vanilla townie posing as something else. Drazerk is confirmed town! Gratz Drazerk!


Well then I guess this means I get to be slightly more insane with my theories...
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
June 22 2012 18:27 GMT
#1604
@Acro: Isn't that plan based on xbard being town? You've stated a couple of times that you don't buy his roleclaim. What's up with that.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18356 Posts
June 22 2012 18:30 GMT
#1605
Oh, and yes. I think it's possible Maju was bussing 4F. He played in Mattchew's scumteam in Holy Roman. Mattchew's entire strategy was based on bussing his scumbuddies. He picked bluelightz and Jitsu on D1 and went buss heavy on them until he got shot by the opposing scumteam. He also happily followed suit on lynching the crap out of Majuju.

The other scumteam wasn't much better. They didn't start D1, but left it for later in the game, with Drazerk being a good little town helper and ratting out his scumbuddies in our mason circle at the slightest suspicion from either me or Hassy. He went hardcore bus mode on prplhz and layabout, using his public DT check to modconfirm them as scum.

So yeah, Maju could've been bussing.



However, the case does not look like a typical bus case, nor does 4F look like typical scum.

Nevertheless, that leaves Hyaach and xslskksls, unless someone proposes another suspect (deconduo is an outside possibility, but it would be sooo weird, I don't think even Drazerk would pull that stunt). Having Hyaach roleblock xsksks could work, but the only chance of it giving any info is if there is no NK, which, unfortunately might still be just due to xksksks's second role being blocked and his KP going through.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
June 22 2012 18:32 GMT
#1606
Wait. So your theory on me being scum is that the dead guy was once on a team with someone who liked bussing his scummates, and the deadguy also thought that the guy I replaced was scummy, so I must be scum.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 22 2012 18:35 GMT
#1607
Hey hey hey gimme some credit here I bussed TWO scum teams in Holy roman and won that game

As for dec you have to remember he came up with the stupid check so he might of had a bigger plan involved with the first one that involved it coming out true ( hell he could be a GF in which case I'd do that every time in every game)
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18356 Posts
June 22 2012 18:36 GMT
#1608
On June 23 2012 03:27 ghost_403 wrote:
@Acro: Isn't that plan based on xbard being town? You've stated a couple of times that you don't buy his roleclaim. What's up with that.

It is based on information. It is based on me assuming an equal likelihood of all three of you being scum. I don't buy his roleclaim. I don't buy Hyaach's alignment claim. And I don't know what to think of you.

The night action plan therefore assumes any one of you could be lying and is aimed at getting as much information for town as possible. There are myriad ways of it going wrong and it all needs to be backed up with proper scumhunting, but any other combo of night actions I came up with gives less info.

Oh, and if you're afraid of your bulletproof getting roleblocked, think of it this way: if scum kills you and you're real 3rd party, YAY us, it's a day longer until lylo! Your death will be helping town!
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18356 Posts
June 22 2012 18:37 GMT
#1609
On June 23 2012 03:32 ghost_403 wrote:
Wait. So your theory on me being scum is that the dead guy was once on a team with someone who liked bussing his scummates, and the deadguy also thought that the guy I replaced was scummy, so I must be scum.

Have you actually read 4F's posts? There is nothing townie about them.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18356 Posts
June 22 2012 18:39 GMT
#1610
Problem is they're also not your typical scum posts. He grabs the spotlight way too much with weird inane crap. The scum part about them is that they shit up the thread to no end. A 3rd party claim, however, makes a lot of sense for 4F's posting: he posted like he didn't care who did what and the game was his own personal soap box.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 22 2012 18:39 GMT
#1611
On June 23 2012 03:37 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2012 03:32 ghost_403 wrote:
Wait. So your theory on me being scum is that the dead guy was once on a team with someone who liked bussing his scummates, and the deadguy also thought that the guy I replaced was scummy, so I must be scum.

Have you actually read 4F's posts? There is nothing townie about them.


You said the same thing about mine
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18356 Posts
June 22 2012 18:40 GMT
#1612
On June 23 2012 03:35 Drazerk wrote:
Hey hey hey gimme some credit here I bussed TWO scum teams in Holy roman and won that game

As for dec you have to remember he came up with the stupid check so he might of had a bigger plan involved with the first one that involved it coming out true ( hell he could be a GF in which case I'd do that every time in every game)

You couldn't bus the other scumteam, you weren't ON it. Killing the other team was in your own best interest as well!

Oh and being a GF wouldn't make him town, zephirdd explicitly claimed it didn't work for frames, so I doubt it works for godfathers. He would've had to phrase that differently for it to work.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
June 22 2012 18:41 GMT
#1613
Scum wouldn't shoot me tonight. Killing me doesn't get them any closer to winning the game. I don't count as town for their wincon, as detailed previously. I'm fine with being roleblocked, my problem is that I don't think it will help us find scum.

Your plan needs a town DT to actually work, and I haven't seen anything that shows you've thought that out. It's very strange considering the fact that you thought he was lying about his roleclaim to begin with.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18356 Posts
June 22 2012 18:41 GMT
#1614
On June 23 2012 03:39 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2012 03:37 Acrofales wrote:
On June 23 2012 03:32 ghost_403 wrote:
Wait. So your theory on me being scum is that the dead guy was once on a team with someone who liked bussing his scummates, and the deadguy also thought that the guy I replaced was scummy, so I must be scum.

Have you actually read 4F's posts? There is nothing townie about them.


You said the same thing about mine

No. You actually had some townie posts, which is why I didn't shoot you like I intended to! Plus, you didn't even know your role pm for most of the first cycle... :@
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18356 Posts
June 22 2012 18:43 GMT
#1615
On June 23 2012 03:41 ghost_403 wrote:
Scum wouldn't shoot me tonight. Killing me doesn't get them any closer to winning the game. I don't count as town for their wincon, as detailed previously. I'm fine with being roleblocked, my problem is that I don't think it will help us find scum.

Your plan needs a town DT to actually work, and I haven't seen anything that shows you've thought that out. It's very strange considering the fact that you thought he was lying about his roleclaim to begin with.

It doesn't need a town DT to work. Read it again. All it requires is someone who has claimed DT to say that someone else is red or green. We then decide what's what.
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
June 22 2012 18:54 GMT
#1616
Yes KB was anti-town. "extra" win/losses will be accounted at the end of the game.
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 22 2012 18:55 GMT
#1617
Hey Drazerk how about this for a crazy theory: talis and decon are buddies on one of your imaginary kp-less scum teams! Talis's "let's all make up a case" plan is super anti town (I only went along with it cause I am survivor) and it would explain why decon isn't doing shit despite being pretty much "confirmed".

No I don't think this is true but it's something to think about.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 22 2012 18:56 GMT
#1618
oh wow lol. I'm like the most pro-town survivor ever.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 22 2012 18:56 GMT
#1619
Yeah can you get an extra win if you don't win in the first place? I don't think nisani thought this one out. Why the shit would he claim to be third party when he's actually town? It goes the other way around trololol.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 22 2012 18:59 GMT
#1620
btw, guys. if this game ever gets into a lylo kingmaker scenario, it's going to be awesome. All of you town/anti-town guys should start practicing your limerick skills
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